Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 5

[fishercob]

Underrated aspect of this move -- the timing.

Cleveland also had an unguaranteed contract they could have traded for Ersan (Haywood's), and when considering, cost, and the overall roster, Ersan could have actually made more sense for them than Love. But you can't make a trade until your season is over.

Shrewd move my StanVan.

[Ruzious]

My rough numbers show them having only 43M committed next year including the Sanders Buy out and Middleton Caphold...
i keep seeing 22M reported as their cap space, but im getting closer to 24M... Anyone know for sure.

They can go after Monroe/Gasol/Asik/Lopez/ Jordan etc to fill in at the 5, then sign Middleton for 10-12M.

MCW / Ennis / Bayless
Middleton / Mayo
Giannis / Dudley
Parker / Henson / Plumlee
Lopez / Zaza / Plumlee

Then in 2016 they can let Bayless, Mayo, Dudley, and Zaza walk and have the following squad with 40M+ in Cap Space...WOW

MCW / Ennis
Middleton
Giannis
Parker
(Lopez/Gasol/Jordan/Etc)

They will also have RFA rights on Plumlee and Henson if they want to keep either or Sign and Trade

My understanding is that Milwaukee will have 22 - 24 million in cap space once they dump Butler and Williams - before they resign Middleton. So the question is - will they swing for the fences? Will they make a max offer for DeAndre Jordan or Marc Gasol? Lopez and Monroe would be bad fits, because Milwaukee wants to be a quality defensive team. They need a strong defensive anchor - playing Parker and Giannis at the forwards.

[pcbothwel]

My rough numbers show them having only 43M committed next year including the Sanders Buy out and Middleton Caphold...
i keep seeing 22M reported as their cap space, but im getting closer to 24M... Anyone know for sure.

They can go after Monroe/Gasol/Asik/Lopez/ Jordan etc to fill in at the 5, then sign Middleton for 10-12M.

MCW / Ennis / Bayless
Middleton / Mayo
Giannis / Dudley
Parker / Henson / Plumlee
Lopez / Zaza / Plumlee

Then in 2016 they can let Bayless, Mayo, Dudley, and Zaza walk and have the following squad with 40M+ in Cap Space...WOW

MCW / Ennis
Middleton
Giannis
Parker
(Lopez/Gasol/Jordan/Etc)

They will also have RFA rights on Plumlee and Henson if they want to keep either or Sign and Trade

My understanding is that Milwaukee will have 22 - 24 million in cap space once they dump Butler and Williams - before they resign Middleton. So the question is - will they swing for the fences? Will they make a max offer for DeAndre Jordan or Marc Gasol? Lopez and Monroe would be bad fits, because Milwaukee wants to be a quality defensive team. They need a strong defensive anchor - playing Parker and Giannis at the forwards.

I agree, but I was talking about Robin Lopez, not Brook. I think Jordan stays with Clips, but he aint going to Milwaukee. Gasol stays with Griz or he goes to Bulls, NYK, etc.
I think Lopez would be perfect for them for a multitude of reasons:
1) He is a tall, long (like everyone else on that team) defender
2) He is 27
3) He would not require the Max and then allow them to be big players in 2016

They also have their 2015 1st (Tyus, Looney, Portis, etc.) as an asset. Id look to send MCW to Denver to get Lawson and really give them an identity with their pg and C being 27 year old tone-setters with the 3 kids on the wings. Very Long, fast, and dynamic with room to grow and a ton of cap space.

[Ruzious]

My rough numbers show them having only 43M committed next year including the Sanders Buy out and Middleton Caphold...
i keep seeing 22M reported as their cap space, but im getting closer to 24M... Anyone know for sure.

They can go after Monroe/Gasol/Asik/Lopez/ Jordan etc to fill in at the 5, then sign Middleton for 10-12M.

MCW / Ennis / Bayless
Middleton / Mayo
Giannis / Dudley
Parker / Henson / Plumlee
Lopez / Zaza / Plumlee

Then in 2016 they can let Bayless, Mayo, Dudley, and Zaza walk and have the following squad with 40M+ in Cap Space...WOW

MCW / Ennis
Middleton
Giannis
Parker
(Lopez/Gasol/Jordan/Etc)

They will also have RFA rights on Plumlee and Henson if they want to keep either or Sign and Trade

My understanding is that Milwaukee will have 22 - 24 million in cap space once they dump Butler and Williams - before they resign Middleton. So the question is - will they swing for the fences? Will they make a max offer for DeAndre Jordan or Marc Gasol? Lopez and Monroe would be bad fits, because Milwaukee wants to be a quality defensive team. They need a strong defensive anchor - playing Parker and Giannis at the forwards.

I agree, but I was talking about Robin Lopez, not Brook. I think Jordan stays with Clips, but he aint going to Milwaukee. Gasol stays with Griz or he goes to Bulls, NYK, etc.
I think Lopez would be perfect for them for a multitude of reasons:
1) He is a tall, long (like everyone else on that team) defender
2) He is 27
3) He would not require the Max and then allow them to be big players in 2016

They also have their 2015 1st (Tyus, Looney, Portis, etc.) as an asset. Id look to send MCW to Denver to get Lawson and really give them an identity with their pg and C being 27 year old tone-setters with the 3 kids on the wings. Very Long, fast, and dynamic with room to grow and a ton of cap space.

Agreed - Lawson would be a nice upgrade over MCW - and Denver is looking to trade Lawson. They also have the Clippers' 1st round pick in 2016 - perhaps a nice trading chip to move up in this year's draft. I don't see them being big players in next year's free agency - there will be a lot more competition.

[gambitx777]

Some one send Stan Van a thank you card! He made sure we did not do something stupid and trade for Ilyasolva.

[Ruzious]

SMH over the rumor that the Bucks will now go after Brook Lopez. Kidd played with him in NJ - when NJ stunk when Lopez was healthy and played well without him.

[dckingsfan]

I think it means they are going to grab Portis or Looney

[Ruzious]

Upon further contemplation and retrospect, I was too hasty to poopoo BLo. His stats for the second half of last season were dramatically better than the first half. Lionel Hollins appears to have made a big difference for him. He put up restaurant quality all-star numbers after the break - even rebounded well.

I'm so old that I remember Hollins playing with Bill Walton for Portland.

[LyricalRico]

Upon further contemplation and retrospect, I was too hasty to poopoo BLo. His stats for the second half of last season were dramatically better than the first half. Lionel Hollins appears to have made a big difference for him. He put up restaurant quality all-star numbers after the break - even rebounded well.

I'm so old that I remember Hollins playing with Bill Walton for Portland.

And ther's also the connection to Kidd from the year before. But I gotta think Lopez is due for another foot injury as soon as you sign him to a longterm deal. I'd stay away unless I was a good team taking a chance on being great, and I'm not sure MIL is there yet.

WireTap also mentions Tyson Chandler. He would help defensively, but he doesn't solve their shooting issues. Actually, neither would Lopez but at least he can score.

[Ruzious]

Upon further contemplation and retrospect, I was too hasty to poopoo BLo. His stats for the second half of last season were dramatically better than the first half. Lionel Hollins appears to have made a big difference for him. He put up restaurant quality all-star numbers after the break - even rebounded well.

I'm so old that I remember Hollins playing with Bill Walton for Portland.

And ther's also the connection to Kidd from the year before. But I gotta think Lopez is due for another foot injury as soon as you sign him to a longterm deal. I'd stay away unless I was a good team taking a chance on being great, and I'm not sure MIL is there yet.

WireTap also mentions Tyson Chandler. He would help defensively, but he doesn't solve their shooting issues. Actually, neither would Lopez but at least he can score.

Remember they have Parker coming back. With him, Middleton, Dudley, and Mayo, and... Lopez, I think that's plenty o shooters.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Upon further contemplation and retrospect, I was too hasty to poopoo BLo. His stats for the second half of last season were dramatically better than the first half. Lionel Hollins appears to have made a big difference for him. He put up restaurant quality all-star numbers after the break - even rebounded well.

I'm so old that I remember Hollins playing with Bill Walton for Portland.

I remember that, too.

What's even more dating is that the sons of Bill Walton and Rick Barry are finished playing NBA ball. Won't be long before some grandsons of familiar players start showing up in the league.

A while ago I was looking at the free agent list. I noticed that Tyson Chandler is already 32 years old. I recall sitting right by his family members when Chandler was a teenager right out of HS. He, Eddy Curry, and Kwame Brown were each 19 year olds who just completed their rookie seasons. All of them were at the Big Man Camp.

It is amazing how fast time flys.

[Ruzious]

CCJ, I remember when Wes Matthews was drafted - not Wesley Matthews now of Portland - but his father - Wes - drafted by the Bullets... in 1980. Groan.

[gtn130]

If Milwaukee gets the right guy, you could make a case for them to be a top 5 seed. AsikMonroe won't be coming there, Asik won't move the needle. Gasol I think stays put but Lope on that team? 50 win potential

If Jabari is completely healthy and playing well and they bench MCW, they'll win > 50 games. If MCW plays big minutes next year, they'll win like 44.

[nuposse04]

I think it means they are going to grab Portis or Looney

It may mean Portis, if they think of him as a center, but I would be surprised if they went Lyles of Looney. They have plenty of length for the 4. I thought MIL needed to improve it's SG and wing play mostly.

[nuposse04]

If Milwaukee gets the right guy, you could make a case for them to be a top 5 seed. AsikMonroe won't be coming there, Asik won't move the needle. Gasol I think stays put but Lope on that team? 50 win potential

If Jabari is completely healthy and playing well and they bench MCW, they'll win > 50 games. If MCW plays big minutes next year, they'll win like 44.

Jabari would have to be considerably better then advertised for them to win 50 plus. That and the ACL injury kinda sucks so early in his career. He'll recover it isn't like Jabari is phenomenal athlete to begin with.

[LyricalRico]

Nice to see Mike Malone land on his feet. He had Sacto playing better than expected before he was let go. Interesting that he takes the current Sacto coach George Karl's old job. Now Denver has to figure out how to fix the roster.

[verbal8]

What are thoughts on the Clippers trading for Stephenson?

Seems like a good move(but risky) for a team without many other avenues for significant improvement.

[AFM]

They pretty much got him for free.

[deneem4]

Crawford and Stevenson
That backcourt is makes me speechless lol

[nate33]

I figure, if nothing else, this trade makes Pierce less likely to bolt for the Clippers. The Clippers now need to use their MLE on a big, not Paul Pierce.