Trade up to 3 or 4? What would it take?

bkseven · Post #21 » by **bkseven** » Sun Jun 21, 2015 9:06 pm

sc8581 wrote:If I'm trading up it's only for Russell or Towns but I don't think we have the assets to do it anyway.

lol no way Towns gonna be at three. don't bother.

ComboGuardCity · Post #22 » by **ComboGuardCity** » Sun Jun 21, 2015 11:55 pm

If Russell is at #4 I trade KCP, #8, 2016 #1, and our 2nd rounder.

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Blkbrd671 · Post #23 » by **Blkbrd671** » Mon Jun 22, 2015 1:59 am

ComboGuardCity wrote:If Russell is at #4 I trade KCP, #8, 2016 #1, and our 2nd rounder.

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i don't think we can trade 2 consecutive picks and i think KCP is enough to move but idk if there's a need with THJ

ComboGuardCity · Post #24 » by **ComboGuardCity** » Mon Jun 22, 2015 2:25 am

Blkbrd671 wrote:
ComboGuardCity wrote:If Russell is at #4 I trade KCP, #8, 2016 #1, and our 2nd rounder.

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i don't think we can trade 2 consecutive picks and i think KCP is enough to move but idk if there's a need with THJ

You can trade the rights to the player and the future pick.

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kurtis48239 · Post #25 » by **kurtis48239** » Mon Jun 22, 2015 3:50 am

Would rather stick at 8 and keep all our assets.

Blkbrd671 · Post #26 » by **Blkbrd671** » Mon Jun 22, 2015 5:03 am

ComboGuardCity wrote:
Blkbrd671 wrote:
ComboGuardCity wrote:If Russell is at #4 I trade KCP, #8, 2016 #1, and our 2nd rounder.

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i don't think we can trade 2 consecutive picks and i think KCP is enough to move but idk if there's a need with THJ

You can trade the rights to the player and the future pick.

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so draft and then trade?

Post #27 » by **roc** » Mon Jun 22, 2015 5:15 am

Blkbrd671 wrote:so draft and then trade?

AKA draft the player for that team. It happens all the time.

Laimbeer · Post #28 » by **Laimbeer** » Mon Jun 22, 2015 12:42 pm

Entourage27 wrote:Reports have it that IF the Knicks trade back they want a pick in the 8-14 range and a veteran. If I'm SVG I'm exploring this option with either reggie or Jennings IF Deangelo Russell is available at the 4th spot. If not then the idea of trading up would be pointless as I feel anybody else isn't worth giving up based on value.

Reggie is a free agent. He can't be traded unless it's a sign and trade, and that can't happen until well after the draft.

Laimbeer · Post #29 » by **Laimbeer** » Mon Jun 22, 2015 12:46 pm

kurtis48239 wrote:Would rather stick at 8 and keep all our assets.

This is where I'm at. We have possibilities in the backcourt and are barren at the three. Luckily, one of the best players available at 8 should be a three. The position doesn't scream out for a trade up or down.

DocRI · Post #30 » by **DocRI** » Mon Jun 22, 2015 7:09 pm

Laimbeer wrote:
kurtis48239 wrote:Would rather stick at 8 and keep all our assets.

This is where I'm at. We have possibilities in the backcourt and are barren at the three. Luckily, one of the best players available at 8 should be a three. The position doesn't scream out for a trade up or down.

^ This is all very true, reasonable, and sensible. BUT (and we're talking a Sir Mix-a-Lot sized big BUT here) ...

... if SVG believes Russell is James Harden 2.0, you trade up for him and figure out SF via free agency over the next few years. If he thinks Russell is a good starter but not a huge upgrade from KCP, sure, stay put and keep your assets. But if you've got a chance to make a young trio of (effectively) Reggie, (James Harden) & Drummond? You do it 11 times out of 10.

Bottom line, ELITE talent trumps need every time; if SVG thinks Russell is truly an elite talent and he's got a chance to acquire him, you pull the trigger.

Blkbrd671 · Post #31 » by **Blkbrd671** » Mon Jun 22, 2015 11:30 pm

r0cd0gg wrote:
Blkbrd671 wrote:so draft and then trade?

AKA draft the player for that team. It happens all the time.

oddly enough i didn't know this. or maybe i did and forgot. Its a lot to risk drafting for another team on a strictly verbal promise

Pharaoh · Post #32 » by **Pharaoh** » Tue Jun 23, 2015 2:14 am

Blkbrd671 wrote:
r0cd0gg wrote:
Blkbrd671 wrote:so draft and then trade?

AKA draft the player for that team. It happens all the time.

oddly enough i didn't know this. or maybe i did and forgot. Its a lot to risk drafting for another team on a strictly verbal promise

Verbal promises are all GMs have though. You go back on your word and pretty soon you're rep is busted

bballnmike · Post #33 » by **bballnmike** » Tue Jun 23, 2015 2:24 am

Pharaoh wrote:
Blkbrd671 wrote:
r0cd0gg wrote:AKA draft the player for that team. It happens all the time.

oddly enough i didn't know this. or maybe i did and forgot. Its a lot to risk drafting for another team on a strictly verbal promise

Verbal promises are all GMs have though. You go back on your word and pretty soon you're rep is busted

SVG:
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwipZZmcA5E[/youtube]

Blkbrd671 · Post #34 » by **Blkbrd671** » Tue Jun 23, 2015 2:31 am

bballnmike wrote:
Pharaoh wrote:
Blkbrd671 wrote:

oddly enough i didn't know this. or maybe i did and forgot. Its a lot to risk drafting for another team on a strictly verbal promise

Verbal promises are all GMs have though. You go back on your word and pretty soon you're rep is busted

SVG:
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwipZZmcA5E[/youtube]

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