Atlanta Hawks Official Trade Ideas Thread (Part 1)

[dms269]

Hey, have you seen the reports? OKC is offering Perry Jones III and Jeremy Lamb in return for a draft pick. Also Steve Novak is available. The Hawks should take this deal immediately. Perry Jones is someone that would fit this system perfectly. 6'11 SF/PF with 3 pt range and handles? Jeremy Lamb is more talented than Bazemore and would also be a nice fit. That's two good young players for basically nothing and both would become restricted FA's next year.

Our new line up could look like this:
Horford/Ajinca/Muscala
Perry Jones/Jeremy Evans/Scott
Carroll/Sefalosha
Korver/Lamb/Bazemore
Teague/Dennis/Mack

I think Millsap is gone.

If we have to give up 15 to get those then there is no way we should do that deal. Jones is a player without a position. Opponents killed Jones when he played pf. I don't feel confidence with his "range" and he is a sub .250 3p shooter. Lamb nor Jones are that impressive and there is a reason OKC is trying to dangle a package, because neither carry a ton of value. Giving up 15 for low bench backups is not a smart idea.

[my2bits]

Hey, have you seen the reports? OKC is offering Perry Jones III and Jeremy Lamb in return for a draft pick. Also Steve Novak is available. The Hawks should take this deal immediately. Perry Jones is someone that would fit this system perfectly. 6'11 SF/PF with 3 pt range and handles? Jeremy Lamb is more talented than Bazemore and would also be a nice fit. That's two good young players for basically nothing and both would become restricted FA's next year.

Our new line up could look like this:
Horford/Ajinca/Muscala
Perry Jones/Jeremy Evans/Scott
Carroll/Sefalosha
Korver/Lamb/Bazemore
Teague/Dennis/Mack

I think Millsap is gone.

If we have to give up 15 to get those then there is no way we should do that deal. Jones is a player without a position. Opponents killed Jones when he played pf. I don't feel confidence with his "range" and he is a sub .250 3p shooter. Lamb nor Jones are that impressive and there is a reason OKC is trying to dangle a package, because neither carry a ton of value. Giving up 15 for low bench backups is not a smart idea.

I hear you. However, it's not unprecedented for young players to struggle to acclimate their games in their first few years only to see them put it all together in another situation. There is no guarantee that whoever we draft will definitely pan out. I prefer that they work with 2-3 year vets than green rookies...unless it's a top 5 pick. Didn't Perry have some 30 pt games while KD was out?

[dms269]

Our new line up could look like this:
Horford/Ajinca/Muscala
Perry Jones/Jeremy Evans/Scott
Carroll/Sefalosha
Korver/Lamb/Bazemore
Teague/Dennis/Mack

I think Millsap is gone.

If we have to give up 15 to get those then there is no way we should do that deal. Jones is a player without a position. Opponents killed Jones when he played pf. I don't feel confidence with his "range" and he is a sub .250 3p shooter. Lamb nor Jones are that impressive and there is a reason OKC is trying to dangle a package, because neither carry a ton of value. Giving up 15 for low bench backups is not a smart idea.

I hear you. However, it's not unprecedented for young players to struggle to acclimate their games in their first few years only to see them put it all together in another situation. There is no guarantee that whoever we draft will definitely pan out. I prefer that they work with 2-3 year vets than green rookies...unless it's a top 5 pick. Didn't Perry have some 30 pt games while KD was out?

And at that cost I would rather have a green rookie than someone who has been a bust. If the price is low enough then sure, trade for them. 15 is not good enough for me.

He had 1 32 point game and then like 3 20 something. He also played 42 minutes which would never happen for our rotation.

[Crunky]

Jeremy lamb and Perry Jones would make a solid bench but they don't really play any defense to start for you hawks.

[Geaux_Hawks]

I would gladly trade both of our 2nd's for both of them. Both could be just sparks off the bench for us. They probably just need a change in scenery/development from a better coach to ascend into being quality players. I for one think Lamb could be a top 2 guard with better coaching. Scott Brooks never struck me as a player developer. Durant and WB were just that good. Ibaka developed his jumper, but I doubt Brooks had anything to do with that.

[my2bits]

If we have to give up 15 to get those then there is no way we should do that deal. Jones is a player without a position. Opponents killed Jones when he played pf. I don't feel confidence with his "range" and he is a sub .250 3p shooter. Lamb nor Jones are that impressive and there is a reason OKC is trying to dangle a package, because neither carry a ton of value. Giving up 15 for low bench backups is not a smart idea.

I hear you. However, it's not unprecedented for young players to struggle to acclimate their games in their first few years only to see them put it all together in another situation. There is no guarantee that whoever we draft will definitely pan out. I prefer that they work with 2-3 year vets than green rookies...unless it's a top 5 pick. Didn't Perry have some 30 pt games while KD was out?

And at that cost I would rather have a green rookie than someone who has been a bust. If the price is low enough then sure, trade for them. 15 is not good enough for me.

He had 1 32 point game and then like 3 20 something. He also played 42 minutes which would never happen for our rotation.

Nobody was lining up to sign Carroll or Bazemore before Bud got a hold of them. We never thought Bazemore would play 40-something minutes in our rotation either (in the ECF no less)but guess what... it happened. BTW, that number 15 pick comes with a guaranteed contract for 3-4 years. We would only be obligated for 1 year with Lamb/Jones. They are not YET busts. They could be if they never find consistency in their growth. If they play well we can match offers to keep them. If not, so long. Some team will give them a look. I'm done with it either way. Thanks for the input though. Is John Jenkins a bust? Do we keep him?

[my2bits]

Who is gonna be in charge of selecting the first pick? Ferry is out. Does Bud have that acumen? Is it 'Nique? We drafted at 15th last year. Adreian Payne. Is he a bust? Or did we give up on him?

[dms269]

I hear you. However, it's not unprecedented for young players to struggle to acclimate their games in their first few years only to see them put it all together in another situation. There is no guarantee that whoever we draft will definitely pan out. I prefer that they work with 2-3 year vets than green rookies...unless it's a top 5 pick. Didn't Perry have some 30 pt games while KD was out?

And at that cost I would rather have a green rookie than someone who has been a bust. If the price is low enough then sure, trade for them. 15 is not good enough for me.

He had 1 32 point game and then like 3 20 something. He also played 42 minutes which would never happen for our rotation.

Nobody was lining up to sign Carroll or Bazemore before Bud got a hold of them. We never thought Bazemore would play 40-something minutes in our rotation either (in the ECF no less)but guess what... it happened. BTW, that number 15 pick comes with a guaranteed contract for 3-4 years. We would only be obligated for 1 year with Lamb/Jones. They are not YET busts. They could be if they never find consistency in their growth. If they play well we can match offers to keep them. If not, so long. Some team will give them a look. I'm done with it either way. Thanks for the input though. Is John Jenkins a bust? Do we keep him?

DMC and Baze were signings. I am all for signing players, but you do not trade the 15th for two players who could likely be had for waiting one more year. Yes the 15th will have a guaranteed 3-4 years, which means we have someone cheap for that long. If we did a 15th for jones and start him and he blows up, we are giving a huge pay jump to him after only 1 year.

Jenkins will go to greener pastures. He will sign somewhere else.

Payne got traded so yeah, we gave up on him.

[dms269]

Bud will make the pick.

[td00]

For a team that won 68 games, we sure have plenty of what-ifs.

This is a whole diff team if Sap and Carroll go elsewhere.

[atlantabbq99]

One thing we know about Budz and the Hawks, is that they can always make plan B and C look alot better than plan A.

The last three years have made me alot more confident in the organization. For 3 years straight now, the Hawks off season have not gone as planned, but when plan A seems to break down, Ferry and Budz seem to have a 2nd deal ready to go. Hawks lost out on Dwight and ended up getting Sap and DMC. Hawks didn't get Deng, but then quickly got Thabo and Baz.

I'm getting tired of all the doom and gloom Hawks fans, those guys are really getting boring and idiotic with their post.

Just don't be surprised to see something early in the off season not go the Hawks way, then a flood of doom and gloom Hawks fans start posting alot of idiotic stuff, then a few days later, Budz will end up signing a couple of 2nd tier guys that he ends up turning into gems

[MaceCase]

A couple SFs supposedly on the trade market that I'd like if the team balks at not necessarily the amount but also years on a DeMarre deal. If Cousins is moved the Kings might be fireselling, or if according to Woj they plan on keeping Cousins and pursuing Rondo they might need some extra cap space (actually rather stupid suggestion by Woj but let's play along). Gay's new deal isn't terrible by any means given his current production and the rising cap. Gives a capable defender and more firepower from the wing, may cost the team a young piece (Dennis) or picks but seems more than worthwhile to me if his new found renaissance continues if not improves in a more free flowing offense and for a winner.

Second is Danillo Galinari. No idea what it would take to get him as I have zero read on the Denver franchise but I imagine it would be costlier despite him only having a year left on his deal. For that reason I'm less ecstatic about creating a package for him but if the price is right....

[Years80HAWKS]

I would like to have Perry Jones II here. Not sure about getting Lamb. If Kaminsky is not there at 15, then I would do the trade.
I also think Jones could help us with 7-1 and that easiness of movement. He needs attention and some developing, just what he have not had in OKC in three years.
#15 assures you nothing. That could very well be a waste.

On the other hand, I just read this morning that Monta Ellis wants to play in the East and talks to Heat and Hawks for a contract around 10-12. I hope that is not happening with us...

[dms269]

My question is this...does Monta have the ability to create on his own?

If he does he might be worth a look

[my2bits]

And at that cost I would rather have a green rookie than someone who has been a bust. If the price is low enough then sure, trade for them. 15 is not good enough for me.

He had 1 32 point game and then like 3 20 something. He also played 42 minutes which would never happen for our rotation.

Nobody was lining up to sign Carroll or Bazemore before Bud got a hold of them. We never thought Bazemore would play 40-something minutes in our rotation either (in the ECF no less)but guess what... it happened. BTW, that number 15 pick comes with a guaranteed contract for 3-4 years. We would only be obligated for 1 year with Lamb/Jones. They are not YET busts. They could be if they never find consistency in their growth. If they play well we can match offers to keep them. If not, so long. Some team will give them a look. I'm done with it either way. Thanks for the input though. Is John Jenkins a bust? Do we keep him?

DMC and Baze were signings. I am all for signing players, but you do not trade the 15th for two players who could likely be had for waiting one more year. Yes the 15th will have a guaranteed 3-4 years, which means we have someone cheap for that long. If we did a 15th for jones and start him and he blows up, we are giving a huge pay jump to him after only 1 year.

Jenkins will go to greener pastures. He will sign somewhere else.

Payne got traded so yeah, we gave up on him.

Mmm Hmm.

[Jamaaliver]

I'm getting tired of all the doom and gloom Hawks fans, those guys are really getting boring and idiotic with their post.

You're kind of an odd fellow.

Three weeks into the season you were trying to trade Horford for Mason Plumlee cause AL's career was in 'decline'...at age 28.

Nine days into the season you were trying to bench Paul Millsap.

I would be willing to trade Horford, .50c to the dollar for a 10rpg center...... maybe Horford for Mason Plumlee

I think you have to accept the fact that it has nothing to do with Horford's "health", and it all has to do with Horford's "decline"

But if Sap can't turn things around, maybe he should move to the bench, like Manu. Still average 30mpg, but go in with the second unit and dominate

But you're tired of OUR idiotic posts?

[td00]

I wanna mention for anyone who believes in Bud's wishes for Ellis.....he wasn't satisfied with the DAL, 3/39M, so this time Ellis wants near max to max money...........good luck with pleasing him this time around.

[Hawk Eye]

I'm getting tired of all the doom and gloom Hawks fans, those guys are really getting boring and idiotic with their post.

You're kind of an odd fellow.

Three weeks into the season you were trying to trade Horford for Mason Plumlee cause AL's career was in 'decline'...at age 28.

Nine days into the season you were trying to bench Paul Millsap.

I would be willing to trade Horford, .50c to the dollar for a 10rpg center...... maybe Horford for Mason Plumlee

I think you have to accept the fact that it has nothing to do with Horford's "health", and it all has to do with Horford's "decline"

But if Sap can't turn things around, maybe he should move to the bench, like Manu. Still average 30mpg, but go in with the second unit and dominate

But you're tired of OUR idiotic posts?

dang jamaal you really do dig up old posts like a bloodhound; part time realgmer and full time investigator?

[Jamaaliver]

I wanna mention for anyone who believes in Bud's wishes for Ellis.....he wasn't satisfied with the DAL, 3/39M, so this time Ellis wants near max to max money...........good luck with pleasing him this time around.

I'm on the fence about Monta. Pretty torn.

But it's noteworthy that he expressed interest in us.

The tide is turning as players saw how awful most EC playoff teams were...while the Clips and Spurs fielded the WC Finals in the First Round.

Might he take a paycut, no idea. But we're finally at a point where players will come to US to express interest. That's a huge step.

[Jamaaliver]

:lol: dang jamaal you really do dig up old posts like a bloodhound; part time realgmer and full time investigator?

Just trying to keep us all honest.

Geaux_Hawks nicknamed me Grave Digger.

And
I
Love
It!!!

part time realgmer and full time investigator?

it's the other way around...

:)