JTrain wrote:AtheJ415 wrote:I don't need to. I can head over to a Pelicans board and ask them what they think of Asik, as I have seen ALL season whenever I check their boards.
We know that our back court is still one of the best in basketball. It's no stretch to say that. It's not as if we haven't seen them play the game of basketball before. We have seen them separately enough to know they are good players. And that still doesn't address that judging any team by its worst 3 starters looks bad except for 2 or 3 teams in the entire league. In fact, going back historically to some of the great teams would have ridiculous results. It's just a truly awful premise.
"I don't need to. I can head over to a Pelicans board and ask them what they think of Asik"So are you now saying you are referring only to Pelican fans instead of people with eyes? You have shifted the goalposts.
"We know that our back court is still one of the best in basketball."No,
we don't
know any such thing. We have two good but not great players that so far have a
losing record when playing together and
negative net points when playing together.
"judging any team by its worst 3 starters looks bad except for 2 or 3 teams"False. There are at least 15 teams whose worst starting three look nothing close to as dismal as ours. In fact, only two teams in the West (Lakers and Timberwolves) are close. Also, a few teams that do have a bad "worst three" have a top 20-type superstar player among the other two, which we lack.
I'm glad to look over any empirical data supporting any point you are trying to make, but mere assertions ("We know...", "Anybody with eyes...") don't do much for me.
No. I am saying people who watch him the most are the best judges, and they all hated him. All year.
Yes. We do. You just are one of those people who thinks that we don't know anything that hasn't actually happened on the court yet despite all basic logic. So you admit that Chris Paul and James Harden wouldn't be the best back court in basketball? After all, they haven't had an opportunity to show it? Or maybe we can just know that they are good players who compliment each other and therefore would be great together.
Show me those 15. I'd like to see them. Your entire premise is faulty. Just because i can find bad statistics (and yes, PER is a bad stat when there are better ones out there) to support it doesn't mean crap because it doesn't contain causality and leaves a huge part of the team (40% of the starters, the entire bench, the coach) off the table. I can statistically prove pirates prevent global warming. It would be as useful as what you've posited here.