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Mylie10 · Post #1061 » by **Mylie10** » Sun Jul 5, 2015 5:52 am

DreDay wrote:I'm not scared of LaMarcus Aldridge, I've been on the overrated bandwagon ever since he changed his playstyle to a soft inefficient jump shooter.

I'm not scared, but the Spurs kept themselves relevant as their older guys are reaching the twilight.

While I don't think Aldridge is all that, and the proverbial bag of chips, I do think that the fact that he has some more complete team and team style, that it will allow him to be a bit more efficient and less volume. So that is a plus for them. He's a real good player and he keeps them in the convo.

Keeping Danny Green and adding Aldridge was the key. Because if they lose Green, Bellinelli, Splitter, and even Baynes, and only add Aldridge, then it would be a net negative. Keeping Danny and adding Aldridge is a plus.

Mylie10 · Post #1062 » by **Mylie10** » Sun Jul 5, 2015 5:57 am

lars_rosenberg wrote:The Clippers are screwed.

http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2015/7/3/8890583/the-clippers-are-screwed

Yeah....I'm as pumped a out them losing Deandre almost as much as I'm pumped about Draymond signing quickly.

I thought Hibbert would be an option, I thought Koufos might be a guy to plug in, but nobody is going there lol. Cool story Glenn....lmao

On the other hand, the Knicks just spent another four mil of cap space on Kyle O Quinn which almost officially puts the pin in the idea of Lee going to New York. I can only surmise that Phil Jackson is a big non David Lee fan. Oquinn is a good under rated signing for 4mil per though. Not sure if he helps them into the Playoffs though.

DreDay · Post #1063 » by **DreDay** » Sun Jul 5, 2015 6:22 am

Mylie10 wrote:
DreDay wrote:I'm not scared of LaMarcus Aldridge, I've been on the overrated bandwagon ever since he changed his playstyle to a soft inefficient jump shooter.

I'm not scared, but the Spurs kept themselves relevant as their older guys are reaching the twilight.

While I don't think Aldridge is all that, and the proverbial bag of chips, I do think that the fact that he has some more complete team and team style, that it will allow him to be a bit more efficient and less volume. So that is a plus for them. He's a real good player and he keeps them in the convo.

Keeping Danny Green and adding Aldridge was the key. Because if they lose Green, Bellinelli, Splitter, and even Baynes, and only add Aldridge, then it would be a net negative. Keeping Danny and adding Aldridge is a plus.

Yep, the main issue revolves around how Pop will use him. Will he take over the Duncan role and operate much closer to the rim or will he be content to sit on the perimeter and fire up shots at will?

Like you said depth is important and the Spurs have maintained most of it. Bellinelli and Splitter are moderate losses, with no real replacement for Bellinelli. However, Parker looks like a shell of himself, as does Ginobili and I'm not sold on Mills being their starter even though he's been great off the bench. If those two aren't firing, which there is strong evidence to say they won't, then in the end Aldridge doesn't move the needle from what they were last year.

and1GS · Post #1064 » by **and1GS** » Sun Jul 5, 2015 5:23 pm

DreDay wrote:
and1GS wrote:
DreDay wrote:I'm not scared of LaMarcus Aldridge, I've been on the overrated bandwagon ever since he changed his playstyle to a soft inefficient jump shooter.

That pussy scored 24 ppg on 47% from the field. Also:

Can't find 2015's chart, but this should be enough to show he's a **** pussy! And he's going to a stupid **** team that won't even know how to utilize a wide bodied, tall PF with a multi-faceted offensive game and the ability to play defense when motivated. Stupid signing, Spurs are ****!!!

****, where's the green font again?

2015 and we're still using FG%? LOL. If Aldridge plays there like he did in Portland, it's not of concern to me. I'd be more worried about the Thunder.

LOL! You said it man, **** FG%, LaMarcus is a JOKE! :lol:

and1GS · Post #1065 » by **and1GS** » Sun Jul 5, 2015 5:54 pm

Mylie10 wrote:
lars_rosenberg wrote:The Clippers are screwed.

http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2015/7/3/8890583/the-clippers-are-screwed

Yeah....I'm as pumped a out them losing Deandre almost as much as I'm pumped about Draymond signing quickly.

I thought Hibbert would be an option, I thought Koufos might be a guy to plug in, but nobody is going there lol. Cool story Glenn....lmao

On the other hand, the Knicks just spent another four mil of cap space on Kyle O Quinn which almost officially puts the pin in the idea of Lee going to New York. I can only surmise that Phil Jackson is a big non David Lee fan. Oquinn is a good under rated signing for 4mil per though. Not sure if he helps them into the Playoffs though.

Koufos, O'Quinn and Hibbert all off the market. Clippers really are screwed ha.

lars_rosenberg · Post #1066 » by **lars_rosenberg** » Sun Jul 5, 2015 6:46 pm

JaVale McGee is their best option I think.
He would fit very well actually.

510TWSS · Post #1067 » by **510TWSS** » Sun Jul 5, 2015 8:52 pm

Once you stop laughing the Kings made some solid signings over the weekend. I like the Marco deal. I'm not a huge Rondo fan but I like that it's only a one year deal. Koufos is good insurance and fits next to cousins (a move to PF, perhaps?) in case WCS isn't ready.

They still have a bit left over to fill out for depth. I still think they need shooting. If they can find a third big with some shooting ability that would really help. Back up SF would need to be addressed as well. Mclemore/bellinelli is a good SG rotation.

I like how they're at least attempting to build around their franchise cornerstone. Now if they can sort out their coaching situation and get on the same page maybe they can compete for an 8 seed.

turk3d · Post #1068 » by **turk3d** » Sun Jul 5, 2015 11:39 pm

Duncan/Aldridge/Kawhi, definitely something to be concerned with. Now Adridge doesn't have to be worried about having to bang with Centers anymore. He'll have Dunc and Kawhi to protect him. Spurs will definitely be tough once again if they re-sign Manu for another year and Parker is healthy. Will be another real challenge for us. Might be a little weaker depth wise since they dumped a lot of their guys in order to get the cap space so they could re-sign Kawhi and sign LMA.

ChuckDurn · Post #1069 » by **ChuckDurn** » Mon Jul 6, 2015 3:34 am

turk3d wrote:Duncan/Aldridge/Kawhi, definitely something to be concerned with. Now Adridge doesn't have to be worried about having to bang with Centers anymore. He'll have Dunc and Kawhi to protect him. Spurs will definitely be tough once again if they re-sign Manu for another year and Parker is healthy. Will be another real challenge for us. Might be a little weaker depth wise since they dumped a lot of their guys in order to get the cap space so they could re-sign Kawhi and sign LMA.

With Splitter and Baynes both gone, who besides Duncan plays center? Duncan only goes 30 minutes per night, so they're either doing a lot of small-ball with Diaw at center, or Aldridge is going to find himself there a decent amount.

San Antonio needs to find some decent minimum salary guys who can play, or their depth took a hit by losing those two, Belinelli, and Joseph. Mills is the only decent back-up guard, and Diaw the back-up big (Bonner?). For a team with 4 key guys over 33 (Duncan, Ginobili, Parker, Diaw), there ain't a ton of depth there.

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turk3d · Post #1070 » by **turk3d** » Mon Jul 6, 2015 5:53 am

ChuckDurn wrote:
turk3d wrote:Duncan/Aldridge/Kawhi, definitely something to be concerned with. Now Adridge doesn't have to be worried about having to bang with Centers anymore. He'll have Dunc and Kawhi to protect him. Spurs will definitely be tough once again if they re-sign Manu for another year and Parker is healthy. Will be another real challenge for us. Might be a little weaker depth wise since they dumped a lot of their guys in order to get the cap space so they could re-sign Kawhi and sign LMA.

With Splitter and Baynes both gone, who besides Duncan plays center? Duncan only goes 30 minutes per night, so they're either doing a lot of small-ball with Diaw at center, or Aldridge is going to find himself there a decent amount.

San Antonio needs to find some decent minimum salary guys who can play, or their depth took a hit by losing those two, Belinelli, and Joseph. Mills is the only decent back-up guard, and Diaw the back-up big (Bonner?). For a team with 4 key guys over 33 (Duncan, Ginobili, Parker, Diaw), there ain't a ton of depth there.

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I agree, and I'm pretty sure they'll find a bunch of fill ins. They always do, and there's always going to be a bunch of guys out there who'll want to come play with Pop for just vet min.

and1GS · Post #1071 » by **and1GS** » Mon Jul 6, 2015 9:18 pm

DAvid West to Spurs. Wow. Took the minimum.

statsman · Post #1072 » by **statsman** » Mon Jul 6, 2015 10:00 pm

and1GS wrote:DAvid West to Spurs. Wow. Took the minimum.

Still waiting for that one bargain vet minimum for the Warriors. Despite the NBA title, maybe they haven't hit that level.

lars_rosenberg · Post #1073 » by **lars_rosenberg** » Mon Jul 6, 2015 10:01 pm

This hurts.
He will have more minutes with the Spurs, I think that's why he's chosen them.

and1GS · Post #1074 » by **and1GS** » Mon Jul 6, 2015 11:50 pm

statsman wrote:
and1GS wrote:DAvid West to Spurs. Wow. Took the minimum.

Still waiting for that one bargain vet minimum for the Warriors. Despite the NBA title, maybe they haven't hit that level.

Who would that be though? Barbosa already re-signed so there aren't really minutes for any new signing. Best fit was Bellinelli.

Post #1075 » by **FNQ** » Mon Jul 6, 2015 11:58 pm

and1GS wrote:
statsman wrote:
and1GS wrote:DAvid West to Spurs. Wow. Took the minimum.

Still waiting for that one bargain vet minimum for the Warriors. Despite the NBA title, maybe they haven't hit that level.

Who would that be though? Barbosa already re-signed so there aren't really minutes for any new signing. Best fit was Bellinelli.

Yup. I cant imagine any of these vets are going to be willing to take minimum money AND fight for minutes with an incumbent. Must temper expectations based on reality here. West is the primary backup big at 4/5 in San Antonio, vs. fighting for minutes w/Speights and Ezeli in a small-ball based, uptempo game. There's a reason our name dropped out early and the Wizards/Spurs were the primary targets - they have no capable backup bigs. And in Washington's case, no capable starting PF.

KingFox · Post #1076 » by **KingFox** » Tue Jul 7, 2015 6:21 am

510TWSS wrote:Once you stop laughing the Kings made some solid signings over the weekend. I like the Marco deal. I'm not a huge Rondo fan but I like that it's only a one year deal. Koufos is good insurance and fits next to cousins (a move to PF, perhaps?) in case WCS isn't ready.

They still have a bit left over to fill out for depth. I still think they need shooting. If they can find a third big with some shooting ability that would really help. Back up SF would need to be addressed as well. Mclemore/bellinelli is a good SG rotation.

I like how they're at least attempting to build around their franchise cornerstone. Now if they can sort out their coaching situation and get on the same page maybe they can compete for an 8 seed.

i sure hope so

turk3d · Post #1077 » by **turk3d** » Wed Jul 8, 2015 11:59 pm

60 page, 31,000 post thread on GB on Jordan reneging on Dallas offer and instead staying with Clippers. Talk about Soap Opera drama, all these posts made in just today and still going, lol.

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1398450&start=1160#start_here

rcfc1 · Post #1078 » by **rcfc1** » Thu Jul 9, 2015 12:30 am

Cap just announced at 70 mill for 2015-16. Team tax level at 84.7. How's that affect us?

statsman · Post #1079 » by **statsman** » Thu Jul 9, 2015 12:37 am

rcfc1 wrote:Cap just announced at 70 mill for 2015-16. Team tax level at 84.7. How's that affect us?

Compared to the estimates coming into the offseason, about $8M less luxury tax. That's after the less than 25% max contract for Green and the trade of Lee for Wallace, which both lowered the luxury tax from the original $45-50M estimates coming into the offseason.

Also found someone posting the following:

Max salaries for 2015-16, based on years of service:
0-6 yrs: $16.407 mil
7-10 yrs: $19.689 mil
10+ yrs: $22.970 mil

Based on that, Klay's contract is a 23.6% max contract and Green's is either 22.5% max (for 5/85) or 21.7% max (for 5/82).

rcfc1 · Post #1080 » by **rcfc1** » Thu Jul 9, 2015 12:42 am

statsman wrote:
rcfc1 wrote:Cap just announced at 70 mill for 2015-16. Team tax level at 84.7. How's that affect us?

Compared to the estimates coming into the offseason, about $8M less luxury tax. That's after the less than 25% max contract for Green and the trade of Lee for Wallace, which both lowered the luxury tax from the original $45-50M estimates coming into the offseason.

Also found someone posting the following:

Max salaries for 2015-16, based on years of service:
0-6 yrs: $16.407 mil
7-10 yrs: $19.689 mil
10+ yrs: $22.970 mil

Based on that, Klay's contract is a 23.6% max contract and Green's is either 22.5% max (for 5/85) or 21.7% max (for 5/82).

+1 for living up to your name, sir.