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Re: Who is left now that we have some Room? 

Post#21 » by MNPacersfan » Tue Jul 7, 2015 9:28 pm

Scoot McGroot wrote:Or, we re-sign Scola for those few games a year.


Anyone in Indy hearing anything about Scola? I heard earlier in the off-season that he was continuing to work out in Indy. That would seem to spell Scola's return.
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Re: Who is left now that we have some Room? 

Post#22 » by 8305 » Tue Jul 7, 2015 9:42 pm

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Scoot McGroot wrote:I'd rather have Hill/Monta/Miles/Paul George on the court than have to bench one of them for Tayshaun Prince. :dontknow: Honestly, Paul George is going to be bigger than most PF's he matches up against. And, unless we play PG at the PF position for 15-20 minutes a night (I don't think anyone is suggesting that he plays purely at the PF position yet, but unless you want to permanently bench one or more of Stuckey, Miles, and Solo, you have to play Paul at the PF position, at least a good amount.


No disagreement that at games end you want those 4 guys on the floor with whoever manning the 5. But let's say your are playing Toronto (or any team who has a strong wing scorer) and a less threatening guy at the 4. Do you take one of the best lock wing defenders and assign him to guard the 4 while that teams wings go to work on Miles and either Hill or Monta? Or do you roll with Prince who can still spread the floor, guard the 4 allowing you to use George to his best advantage?

Or say you are playing one of the teams that have big 4's. Do you want see PG getting beat up by the likes of Zack Randolph or Lemarcus Aldridge.


No. I have PG defend the strong wing scorer and have Miles defend the non-threatening 4. For Toronto, I have Solo or Miles guard Demarre Carroll or Patrick Patterson and have PG guard Demar. I don't see much of an issue here. Don't think of it as much of "Paul George must play the 4 and if he's doing so he can only defend the other team's 4, no matter the situation". We'll probably play more fluid and free of form than that. Theoretically, I don't bench CJ Miles or Monta Ellis to play Tayshaun Prince major minutes. No matter how you shake that out, you're going to be much worse on the court.

As for the teams that have big 4's? Check out my run down in the "starting PF" thread. I went team by team. There's really not a single one in the Eastern Conference (especially not in our division), so there's 52 games a year we don't have to worry about that. As for essentially San Antonio, Memphis, Sacramento and maybe Utah? Well, there's 8 total games a year we have to worry about. But, we have to worry about them anyway. Otherwise, the NBA has gone to much more of "Paul George's" at the 4. I'm not going to play a different style of basketball all season long just to worry about 8 games a year. If we were, we would've plead with Roy Hibbert to come back, and David West likely wouldn't have opted out. We'd be able to continue that style of play. Or, we re-sign Scola for those few games a year.


So let's take it entirely different direction, what about Glen Robinson III? If this is a transition year get a young player who could be a good piece moving forward. If PG is full time 4 or said another way we simply don't ever employ one get another potential multi skilled athlete?
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Re: Who is left now that we have some Room? 

Post#23 » by basketballwacko2 » Wed Jul 8, 2015 12:02 am

I think we're gonna get a guy late like we did Stuckey, we need two or 3 to fill out the team. I'd offer Bargnani vet min or a little more he doesn't seem to be getting any offers, Teletovic might be ok, and don't get shocked if Scola comes back. Andre Miller is a great Vet at point.
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Re: Who is left now that we have some Room? 

Post#24 » by laydo » Wed Jul 8, 2015 12:13 pm

Since we're apart with West and Hibbert, I don't think guys like Scola, Boozer, Andre Miller would land IND.

We should gather some younger talents, or someone who wants to prove himself as a competitive starter. Here my wish list:

Let's go get them
Kevin Seraphin - young, energetic bench player last season, who wants to prove he can start.
Luc Richard Mbah a Moute - good defensive player and grabs rebounds well. we'll need him to guard stretch 4.
Kendall Marshall - good vision and passing skill for us to play fast tempo

Worth a shot
Greg Smith - good hustle player before he injured.
Nate Wolters - nice PnR player, younger version of Luke Ridnour?
Glenn Robinson III - he could be a great wing D player if he were with the right team.

As long as Bird like him, who knows?
Tyler Hansbrough - Hustle and toughness, that's what Pacers need most now
Tony mitchell - great athlete PF but lacks of skill and heart, where's he now anyway?
Michael Beasley - talented forward Bird used to go after, stronger and better fit than PG13 for stretch 4
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Re: Who is left now that we have some Room? 

Post#25 » by 8305 » Wed Jul 8, 2015 3:22 pm

I always thought Luc Richard Mbah a Moute was a solid role player. There was a time when he could guard three positions including the 4. I recall he could take Danny Granger out of a game. But I haven't seen enough of him to know if he's still got that drive and skill. He's been on really bad teams lately so it's hard to tell. Assuming he can still play, can we sell him on the notion that there's a place for him here similar to Rodney Stuckey last year, get him at the vet minimum for one year? Good teams can always use a solid defensive specialist.
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Re: Who is left now that we have some Room? 

Post#26 » by Scoot McGroot » Wed Jul 8, 2015 3:40 pm

8305 wrote:So let's take it entirely different direction, what about Glen Robinson III? If this is a transition year get a young player who could be a good piece moving forward. If PG is full time 4 or said another way we simply don't ever employ one get another potential multi skilled athlete?


Makes sense. He'd likely come cheap and be willing to play as a long-term prospect for us. He could sit for a year or two, and make the Whittington express back and forth to Ft. Wayne. Maybe he turns into a wing for us? If not, he's not putting pressure on us to bench a better vet to play him this year, as there just aren't minutes, even with PG13 at the PF spot.
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Re: Who is left now that we have some Room? 

Post#27 » by Scoot McGroot » Wed Jul 8, 2015 3:41 pm

8305 wrote:I always thought Luc Richard Mbah a Moute was a solid role player. There was a time when he could guard three positions including the 4. I recall he could take Danny Granger out of a game. But I haven't seen enough of him to know if he's still got that drive and skill. He's been on really bad teams lately so it's hard to tell. Assuming he can still play, can we sell him on the notion that there's a place for him here similar to Rodney Stuckey last year, get him at the vet minimum for one year? Good teams can always use a solid defensive specialist.


Maybe. Probably all depends on how his body his. It really broke down over the last two years. Plus, if he's willing to do the vet minimum deal, I imagine Philly would like to keep him for that, or maybe even pay him a bit extra just for his connection with Joel Embiid.
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Re: Who is left now that we have some Room? 

Post#28 » by MNPacersfan » Fri Jul 10, 2015 4:12 pm

John Jenkins may be a nice piece in the front court.
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Re: Who is left now that we have some Room? 

Post#29 » by SmashMouthRod » Fri Jul 10, 2015 9:28 pm

Mbah a Moute used to be capable of guarding any of the superstars wings well. I wouldnt mind him even if it is just to teach the younger guys like Solo some technique. Solo has the Artest like body. We need someone to show him how to use it. Mbah A Moute's knowledge and skill is being wasted away on Philly. 76ers should sit out until they are serious about putting a competitive team on the floor (But thats another story). I also would like for the front office to sign a cheap potential stash guy that could grow into a very good player. I havent watched much Glenn Robinson. Hopefully they are watching summer league closely. I heard Birds comment on Stan Johnson, So obviously he's watching the teams that play Indiana. They should be looking for guys that are under the radar. Thats how San Antonio has kept good role players.
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Re: Who is left now that we have some Room? 

Post#30 » by autissium » Fri Jul 10, 2015 10:27 pm

I'd like to know how high Spurs are on Kyle Anderson. Loved him coming out, was shocked how far he slid. But I know he didn't get any burn last year. Think he'd be an interesting future piece as a point forward next to PG.

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