DeAndre Jordan re-signs with the Clippers, DJ rescinds agreement with the Dallas Mavericks

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Re: Clippers lobbying to change DeAndre Jordan's decision, CP3 & Co. to meet with DJ later today 

Post#1181 » by NBA Fan 1234 » Wed Jul 8, 2015 11:48 pm

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clippertown wrote:The Clippers didn't put enough effort into their first pitch and Dallas did not protect and reassure their boy after they had the advantage. Lessons to be learned for all here.

What was Dallas to do after DJ TOLD the Mavs he was signing with them?

I'll bet you it was not a decision DJ came to lightly. Dallas did a hell of a sales job but DJ was not really running away. The Clips had a bigger offer on the table and Cuban did not have a signature. I would have put DJ under personal Parsons security detail and not left his sight for a second. DJ still has a best mate in BG, whom Dallas underestimated this time round.

Remember, it was DJ that reached out to Doc. How he was left alone long enough to have second guesses is beyond me.



Let me change my question - what realistic things could Dallas have done...?
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Post#1182 » by JeepCSC » Wed Jul 8, 2015 11:50 pm

Maybe players can put $500,000 or so in escrow once they verbaly accept that they will get if they sign on the dotted line. People might think harder about verbal offers and acceptances if they had some skin in the game. I'd still expect Jordan would have messed this up though.
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Re: Clippers lobbying to change DeAndre Jordan's decision, CP3 & Co. to meet with DJ later today 

Post#1183 » by Chi » Wed Jul 8, 2015 11:50 pm

This makes me want to curse...
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Re: Clippers lobbying to change DeAndre Jordan's decision, CP3 & Co. to meet with DJ later today 

Post#1184 » by RSCD3_ » Wed Jul 8, 2015 11:50 pm

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clippertown wrote:The Clippers didn't put enough effort into their first pitch and Dallas did not protect and reassure their boy after they had the advantage. Lessons to be learned for all here.

What was Dallas to do after DJ TOLD the Mavs he was signing with them?

Teach Parsons the grapefruit technique?


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Post#1185 » by GuyverX » Wed Jul 8, 2015 11:51 pm

Knickstape1214 wrote:
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Knickstape1214 wrote:What was Dallas to do after DJ TOLD the Mavs he was signing with them?

I'll bet you it was not a decision DJ came to lightly. Dallas did a hell of a sales job but DJ was not really running away. The Clips had a bigger offer on the table and Cuban did not have a signature. I would have put DJ under personal Parsons security detail and not left his sight for a second. DJ still has a best mate in BG, whom Dallas underestimated this time round.

Remember, it was DJ that reached out to Doc. How he was left alone long enough to have second guesses is beyond me.



Let me change my question - what realistic things could Dallas have done...?


TBH, if he does sign with the Clippers, there's very little Dallas could've done. I think he wanted to be a Clipper from the very beginning but didn't want to stay unless he felt wanted. He got his wish today. Sounds pathetic but DJ is not the most mature guy in the world. Clipper fans have known this for 7 years now.
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Re: Clippers lobbying to change DeAndre Jordan's decision, CP3 & Co. to meet with DJ later today 

Post#1187 » by clippertown » Wed Jul 8, 2015 11:51 pm

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clippertown wrote:The Clippers didn't put enough effort into their first pitch and Dallas did not protect and reassure their boy after they had the advantage. Lessons to be learned for all here.


this is embarrassing

Now who is looking salty? My conspiracy theory of potential tampering holds a little more weight now.
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Re: Clippers lobbying to change DeAndre Jordan's decision, CP3 & Co. to meet with DJ later today 

Post#1188 » by RSCD3_ » Wed Jul 8, 2015 11:51 pm

smokeylarue wrote:The meeting has ended, according to ESPN's Chris Broussard. Chris Paul was emotional during the meeting, a source in the room told Broussard. Paul told Jordan he had no idea he felt negatively about him and that he thought they were "brothers." He said he'd work to get Jordan more involved in the offense and that the Clippers couldn't move forward without him.


It doesnt need to be said about his acting chops
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Re: Clippers lobbying to change DeAndre Jordan's decision, CP3 & Co. to meet with DJ later today 

Post#1189 » by zeebneeb » Wed Jul 8, 2015 11:52 pm

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NoKneeBledsoe wrote:Who cares Jordan sucks! I want to see him leave Chris Paul because he has no offense and only had defense and rebounding
yeah! He reminds me of that other guy who never won anything just rebounding, and playing defense Ben wallace!




:nonono: kids these days. Sheesh.


Except DJ isn't the defender Big Ben was.
Who is? My point is that a rim defender/rebounder of DJ's caliber don't grow on trees, and he is a huge part of that clippers team. Saying you want to get rid of him because he only does that, is, well, moronic.
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Re: Clippers lobbying to change DeAndre Jordan's decision, CP3 & Co. to meet with DJ later today 

Post#1190 » by JeepCSC » Wed Jul 8, 2015 11:52 pm

Mr.Raptorsingh wrote:Now Paul is emotional too...

He should be. His slim title hopes were "going, going, gone" if he had let Jordan leave.
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Post#1191 » by richboy » Wed Jul 8, 2015 11:52 pm

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There is a such thing as being unreasonably positive.....there is also a thing known as being unreasonably negative. Of course the West is stacked but if DJ comes back Clippers will be on the short list of contenders, which is about all you can ask for as a fan. Exiting in the second round again is a possibility as it is for any West contender but it will only be because the West is stacked, not because of any real or imagined shortcomings of the players.

Oh please. We've seen the Thunder and Warriors rise up and get to (and even win, in the Warriors' case) the Finals in less time than it's taken this team to get past the second round. The Harden Rockets have made the WCF more recently than the CP3/Blake/DJ Clippers... just think about that for a second. They had a 3-1 lead and couldn't do it. It isn't happening with this core, with the "Big Three" all making max money. And it's not because of a stacked conference or any other excuses, it's because the GM, coaches and players are not good enough. Bringing back DJ means overpaying for five more years of the same tired routine.

It's also harder to be okay with second-round exits when the team's history is as bad as it is. If we had a bunch of championship banners in the rafters, it would be easier to handle the playoff flameouts, but for the Clippers, it just feels like more failures piled on a long list of them.


I don't see anything wrong with the Clippers core. Now they do have issues but I think the heartbreak of this season will seal any issues. Big Baby said it best. He said something I said watching the Rockets vs Clippers. That was they went into that series feeling they could sweep the Rockets. Gave away games because of over confidence.

I don't see Deandre as an overpay. You could make a case he was a top 10 player last year. He had the second most WS on the Clippers team. They played 16 points better on offense when DJ was in the game. He might be the best PNR big in the league right now. I don't think people get how great it is to have a big that sets a great screen and can finish so well at the rim. I think many think just sign someone else and they do it just as well. It doesn't work that way. He was the best rebounder in the sport. Maybe a top 3 rim protector. If the Clippers just went out and got some perimeter defenders they be the best team in the league. I don't get this idea that they need to blow it up or that DJ isn't worth the money. If your going to run PNR basketball outside of Anthony Davis and maybe Dwight Howard you cant do better than DJ. Meaning he is insanely impactful on both offense and defense.
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Post#1192 » by DreDay » Wed Jul 8, 2015 11:53 pm

smokeylarue wrote:The meeting has ended, according to ESPN's Chris Broussard. Chris Paul was emotional during the meeting, a source in the room told Broussard. Paul told Jordan he had no idea he felt negatively about him and that he thought they were "brothers." He said he'd work to get Jordan more involved in the offense and that the Clippers couldn't move forward without him.


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Re: Clippers lobbying to change DeAndre Jordan's decision, CP3 & Co. to meet with DJ later today 

Post#1193 » by Texas Chuck » Wed Jul 8, 2015 11:53 pm

clippertown wrote:
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clippertown wrote:The Clippers didn't put enough effort into their first pitch and Dallas did not protect and reassure their boy after they had the advantage. Lessons to be learned for all here.


this is embarrassing

Now who is looking salty? My conspiracy theory of potential tampering holds a little more weight now.


and now you are doubling down on the shame.....


Not even the biggest Clipper fan could honestly believe that both Dallas and LA have "lessons to be learned here".

And your slanderous posts about the Mavs-don't start that up again. I cut you a ton of slack on that on the Trade Forum already.
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Post#1194 » by NBA Fan 1234 » Wed Jul 8, 2015 11:53 pm

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Knickstape1214 wrote:
clippertown wrote:I'll bet you it was not a decision DJ came to lightly. Dallas did a hell of a sales job but DJ was not really running away. The Clips had a bigger offer on the table and Cuban did not have a signature. I would have put DJ under personal Parsons security detail and not left his sight for a second. DJ still has a best mate in BG, whom Dallas underestimated this time round.

Remember, it was DJ that reached out to Doc. How he was left alone long enough to have second guesses is beyond me.



Let me change my question - what realistic things could Dallas have done...?


TBH, if he does sign with the Clippers, there's very little Dallas could've done. I think he wanted to be a Clipper from the very beginning but didn't want to stay unless he felt wanted. He got his wish today. Sounds pathetic but DJ is not the most mature guy in the world. Clipper fans have known this for 7 years now.


The bold was my point. Clippertown is trying to come up with some feeble attempt to pin this on Dallas.

E-Balla has said this a few times - DJ is a mental midget...which he is. An attention whore too with an ego if he really thinks he can be a top option on a team, but a mental midget nonetheless.
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Post#1195 » by Nowitness » Wed Jul 8, 2015 11:53 pm

smokeylarue wrote:The meeting has ended, according to ESPN's Chris Broussard. Chris Paul was emotional during the meeting, a source in the room told Broussard. Paul told Jordan he had no idea he felt negatively about him and that he thought they were "brothers." He said he'd work to get Jordan more involved in the offense and that the Clippers couldn't move forward without him.


Of course he said that.....
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Post#1196 » by E-Balla » Wed Jul 8, 2015 11:54 pm

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smokeylarue wrote:The meeting has ended, according to ESPN's Chris Broussard. Chris Paul was emotional during the meeting, a source in the room told Broussard. Paul told Jordan he had no idea he felt negatively about him and that he thought they were "brothers." He said he'd work to get Jordan more involved in the offense and that the Clippers couldn't move forward without him.


It doesnt need to be said about his acting chops

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Post#1197 » by NBA Fan 1234 » Wed Jul 8, 2015 11:54 pm

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zeebneeb wrote:yeah! He reminds me of that other guy who never won anything just rebounding, and playing defense Ben wallace!




:nonono: kids these days. Sheesh.


Except DJ isn't the defender Big Ben was.
Who is? My point is that a rim defender/rebounder of DJ's caliber don't grow on trees, and he is a huge part of that clippers team. Saying you want to get rid of him because he only does that, is, well, moronic.


I agree that saying you want to get rid of someone because he can only defend / rebound is asinine, but comparing him to Wallace is just the same (albeit at a smaller amount).
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Post#1199 » by PaulieWal » Wed Jul 8, 2015 11:56 pm

smokeylarue wrote:The meeting has ended, according to ESPN's Chris Broussard. Chris Paul was emotional during the meeting, a source in the room told Broussard. Paul told Jordan he had no idea he felt negatively about him and that he thought they were "brothers." He said he'd work to get Jordan more involved in the offense and that the Clippers couldn't move forward without him.


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Post#1200 » by Froob » Wed Jul 8, 2015 11:56 pm

JeepCSC wrote:Maybe players can put $500,000 or so in escrow once they verbaly accept that they will get if they sign on the dotted line. People might think harder about verbal offers and acceptances if they had some skin in the game. I'd still expect Jordan would have messed this up though.

They should change the rule to make it so verbal agreements are binding and cannot be changed unless both sides want to change it to a sign & trade. Have the owners/gm record the verbal agreements and there's no problem anymore I would think. Might be more technical stuff to make that impossible.
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