Suns Offseason Thread 4: Where's Terrence Williams?

Mr-Al · Post #901 » by **Mr-Al** » Tue Jul 28, 2015 2:12 am

Kieff + Tucker + Goodwin and/or Bogdan + Suns 2016 1st rounder + Clev 2016 pick for Serge Ibaka

never ever going to happen, but that would be sick.

Bled/Price
Knight/Weems/Booker
Warren/Someone/Weems
Ibaka/Mirza
Chandler/Len

Maybe if Durant or Westbrook get injured again the Thunder just say **** it

bhawk · Post #902 » by **bhawk** » Tue Jul 28, 2015 2:17 am

http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/07/23/suns-wonder-about-markieff-morris-state-of-mind-after-they-traded-his-brother/

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/following-his-twin-brother-s-trade-to-detroit--markieff-morris-doesn-t-appear-to-be-happy-174441924.html;_ylt=AwrXnCCK47ZVNX4AfzXQtDMD;_ylu=X3oDMTByb2lvbXVuBGNvbG8DZ3ExBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDBHNlYwNzcg--

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/25251620/markieff-and-marcus-morris-picked-up-an-insane-amount-of-techs-last-year

http://www.brightsideofthesun.com/2015/7/27/9045905/phoenix-suns-not-quite-done-with-summer-signings-trades-have-needs-at

http://www.brightsideofthesun.com/2015/7/22/9013453/phoenix-suns-coach-gm-still-have-not-talked-to-embattled-markieff

Think it is buried in one of these articles... not much positive press out there right now regarding the situation.

Post #903 » by **lilfishi22** » Tue Jul 28, 2015 3:50 am

My point still stands. I want him on this team if he can be a professional and stay focused on his job. If not, ship him out

TeamTragic · Post #904 » by **TeamTragic** » Tue Jul 28, 2015 4:27 am

Mr-Al wrote:Kieff + Tucker + Goodwin and/or Bogdan + Suns 2016 1st rounder + Clev 2016 pick for Serge Ibaka

never ever going to happen, but that would be sick.

Bled/Price
Knight/Weems/Booker
Warren/Someone/Weems
Ibaka/Mirza
Chandler/Len

Maybe if Durant or Westbrook get injured again the Thunder just say **** it

What the ****? I think you deserve a suspension for that horrible trade proposal :noway:

Post #905 » by **lilfishi22** » Tue Jul 28, 2015 4:35 am

Bogdan and Archie aren't worth much. The Cleveland 1st in 2016 is going to be one of the final 1st round picks. Essentially 1 pick and Kieff for Ibaka, I'd do it in a heartbeat.

OKC would say no.

Post #906 » by **Qwigglez** » Tue Jul 28, 2015 4:45 am

I would do it. Thunder need a defensive minded player in the paint though. I'm not sure if a Kieff/Kanter is all that good especially come playoff time. On the other hand though, Ibaka/Chandler looks mighty fine. Teams are gonna have to settle for jump shots, an we got good perimeter defenders there too.
If we add the Miami pick I think Thunder may take a serious look at our offer. No trading Bogdan though.

Post #907 » by **lilfishi22** » Tue Jul 28, 2015 4:54 am

Qwigglez wrote:I would do it. Thunder need a defensive minded player in the paint though. I'm not sure if a Kieff/Kanter is all that good especially come playoff time. On the other hand though, Ibaka/Chandler looks mighty fine. Teams are gonna have to settle for jump shots, an we got good perimeter defenders there too.
If we add the Miami pick I think Thunder may take a serious look at our offer. No trading Bogdan though.

Bogdan would be your dealbreaker?

Post #908 » by **Qwigglez** » Tue Jul 28, 2015 5:07 am

^Not at all, just don't think he is a throw in and I imagine the Thunder would be fine getting a package of Kieff/Tucker/Goodwin + picks for Ibaka.

Post #909 » by **bondom34** » Tue Jul 28, 2015 5:13 am

Qwigglez wrote:^Not at all, just don't think he is a throw in and I imagine the Thunder would be fine getting a package of Kieff/Tucker/Goodwin + picks for Ibaka.

Sorry, really wouldn't at all. He posted that on the trade board and its kinda a laugher.

Post #910 » by **lilfishi22** » Tue Jul 28, 2015 5:21 am

bondom34 wrote:
Qwigglez wrote:^Not at all, just don't think he is a throw in and I imagine the Thunder would be fine getting a package of Kieff/Tucker/Goodwin + picks for Ibaka.

Sorry, really wouldn't at all. He posted that on the trade board and its kinda a laugher.

I'm gonna have to see this

Post #911 » by **bondom34** » Tue Jul 28, 2015 5:23 am

lilfishi22 wrote:
bondom34 wrote:
Qwigglez wrote:^Not at all, just don't think he is a throw in and I imagine the Thunder would be fine getting a package of Kieff/Tucker/Goodwin + picks for Ibaka.

Sorry, really wouldn't at all. He posted that on the trade board and its kinda a laugher.

I'm gonna have to see this

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1401742#start_here

Only 4 replies so far...

Post #912 » by **lilfishi22** » Tue Jul 28, 2015 5:24 am

Damn made it sound like he was getting torched...

Post #913 » by **Qwigglez** » Tue Jul 28, 2015 5:25 am

bondom34 wrote:
Qwigglez wrote:^Not at all, just don't think he is a throw in and I imagine the Thunder would be fine getting a package of Kieff/Tucker/Goodwin + picks for Ibaka.

Sorry, really wouldn't at all. He posted that on the trade board and its kinda a laugher.

Trade board is overrated. Also, I guess I didn't word what I meant correctly, lol (trying to make food right now). I meant, if the Thunder were fine with his original offer of Kieff/Tucker/Goodwin + picks (and Bogdan) I'm sure they would be fine with Kieff/Tucker/Goodwin + picks (and Miami pick).

RaisingArizona · Post #914 » by **RaisingArizona** » Tue Jul 28, 2015 5:28 am

Trading the farm for a guy who is really not that much better than Kieff would be a mistake. I think OKC role players are greatly overrated due to the system.

MrMiyagi · Post #915 » by **MrMiyagi** » Tue Jul 28, 2015 5:32 am

ginobiliflops wrote:Trading the farm for a guy who is really not that much better than Kieff would be a mistake. I think OKC role players are greatly overrated due to the system.

I would take Ibaka over Kieff, but the deal posted makes no sense for either of us.

RaisingArizona · Post #916 » by **RaisingArizona** » Tue Jul 28, 2015 5:34 am

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=1&y1=2015&p1=ibakase01&y2=2015&p2=morrima02&p3=&p4=&p5=&p6=

RaisingArizona · Post #917 » by **RaisingArizona** » Tue Jul 28, 2015 5:35 am

MrMiyagi wrote:
ginobiliflops wrote:Trading the farm for a guy who is really not that much better than Kieff would be a mistake. I think OKC role players are greatly overrated due to the system.

I would take Ibaka over Kieff, but the deal posted makes no sense for either of us.

I would too, but not by throwing in 3 additional first round picks- I still consider Archie a 1st round pick since he's 20.

Mulhollanddrive · Post #918 » by **Mulhollanddrive** » Tue Jul 28, 2015 5:50 am

Which would you choose in these?

Kanter, Waiters and 3 picks or Eric Bledsoe?

Morris, Tucker and 3 picks or Serge Ibaka?

Post #919 » by **Qwigglez** » Tue Jul 28, 2015 6:12 am

ginobiliflops wrote:Trading the farm for a guy who is really not that much better than Kieff would be a mistake. I think OKC role players are greatly overrated due to the system.

I agree. Ibaka's numbers dipped slightly last season IMO due to playing without Durant/Westbrook for a while.

asudevil · Post #920 » by **asudevil** » Tue Jul 28, 2015 6:26 am

Mulhollanddrive wrote:Which would you choose in these?

Kanter, Waiters and 3 picks or Eric Bledsoe?

Morris, Tucker and 3 picks or Serge Ibaka?

at this point i couldnt even tell if i'm in the majority or minority....this board is all over the place.

But myself i'd trade Eric for Kanter/Waiters/3 picks.

Our backcourt is as stacked as i'd like it to be with Goodwin/Booker/Bogdan. Eric becomes redundant everywhere. I love he D and rebounding though.

big men are not as abundant as the combo guard, so even in a year or two Kanter's contract will be palatable for a team looking for a scorer/rebounder even with poor D. Besides, with Chander/Len/Tucker, his deficiencies can be covered for.

but honestly, neither team does either trade.

Bledsoe/Morris for Kanter/Ibaka? just to through something else into the mix

Chandler/Len
Ibaka/Kanter/Tele
Tucker/Warren/Weams
Goodwin/Booker
Knight/FA or trade

Adams/McGary
Morris/Collison/Novak
Durant/Singler
Bledsoe/Waiters
Westbrook/Payne