Suns Offseason Thread 4: Where's Terrence Williams?
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Kieff + Tucker + Goodwin and/or Bogdan + Suns 2016 1st rounder + Clev 2016 pick for Serge Ibaka
never ever going to happen, but that would be sick.
Bled/Price
Knight/Weems/Booker
Warren/Someone/Weems
Ibaka/Mirza
Chandler/Len
Maybe if Durant or Westbrook get injured again the Thunder just say **** it
never ever going to happen, but that would be sick.
Bled/Price
Knight/Weems/Booker
Warren/Someone/Weems
Ibaka/Mirza
Chandler/Len
Maybe if Durant or Westbrook get injured again the Thunder just say **** it
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http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/07/23/suns-wonder-about-markieff-morris-state-of-mind-after-they-traded-his-brother/
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/following-his-twin-brother-s-trade-to-detroit--markieff-morris-doesn-t-appear-to-be-happy-174441924.html;_ylt=AwrXnCCK47ZVNX4AfzXQtDMD;_ylu=X3oDMTByb2lvbXVuBGNvbG8DZ3ExBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDBHNlYwNzcg--
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/25251620/markieff-and-marcus-morris-picked-up-an-insane-amount-of-techs-last-year
http://www.brightsideofthesun.com/2015/7/27/9045905/phoenix-suns-not-quite-done-with-summer-signings-trades-have-needs-at
http://www.brightsideofthesun.com/2015/7/22/9013453/phoenix-suns-coach-gm-still-have-not-talked-to-embattled-markieff
Think it is buried in one of these articles... not much positive press out there right now regarding the situation.
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/following-his-twin-brother-s-trade-to-detroit--markieff-morris-doesn-t-appear-to-be-happy-174441924.html;_ylt=AwrXnCCK47ZVNX4AfzXQtDMD;_ylu=X3oDMTByb2lvbXVuBGNvbG8DZ3ExBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDBHNlYwNzcg--
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/25251620/markieff-and-marcus-morris-picked-up-an-insane-amount-of-techs-last-year
http://www.brightsideofthesun.com/2015/7/27/9045905/phoenix-suns-not-quite-done-with-summer-signings-trades-have-needs-at
http://www.brightsideofthesun.com/2015/7/22/9013453/phoenix-suns-coach-gm-still-have-not-talked-to-embattled-markieff
Think it is buried in one of these articles... not much positive press out there right now regarding the situation.
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My point still stands. I want him on this team if he can be a professional and stay focused on his job. If not, ship him out
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Mr-Al wrote:Kieff + Tucker + Goodwin and/or Bogdan + Suns 2016 1st rounder + Clev 2016 pick for Serge Ibaka
never ever going to happen, but that would be sick.
Bled/Price
Knight/Weems/Booker
Warren/Someone/Weems
Ibaka/Mirza
Chandler/Len
Maybe if Durant or Westbrook get injured again the Thunder just say **** it
What the ****? I think you deserve a suspension for that horrible trade proposal

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Bogdan and Archie aren't worth much. The Cleveland 1st in 2016 is going to be one of the final 1st round picks. Essentially 1 pick and Kieff for Ibaka, I'd do it in a heartbeat.
OKC would say no.
OKC would say no.
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I would do it. Thunder need a defensive minded player in the paint though. I'm not sure if a Kieff/Kanter is all that good especially come playoff time. On the other hand though, Ibaka/Chandler looks mighty fine. Teams are gonna have to settle for jump shots, an we got good perimeter defenders there too.
If we add the Miami pick I think Thunder may take a serious look at our offer. No trading Bogdan though.
If we add the Miami pick I think Thunder may take a serious look at our offer. No trading Bogdan though.
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Qwigglez wrote:I would do it. Thunder need a defensive minded player in the paint though. I'm not sure if a Kieff/Kanter is all that good especially come playoff time. On the other hand though, Ibaka/Chandler looks mighty fine. Teams are gonna have to settle for jump shots, an we got good perimeter defenders there too.
If we add the Miami pick I think Thunder may take a serious look at our offer. No trading Bogdan though.
Bogdan would be your dealbreaker?
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^Not at all, just don't think he is a throw in and I imagine the Thunder would be fine getting a package of Kieff/Tucker/Goodwin + picks for Ibaka.
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Qwigglez wrote:^Not at all, just don't think he is a throw in and I imagine the Thunder would be fine getting a package of Kieff/Tucker/Goodwin + picks for Ibaka.
Sorry, really wouldn't at all. He posted that on the trade board and its kinda a laugher.
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bondom34 wrote:Qwigglez wrote:^Not at all, just don't think he is a throw in and I imagine the Thunder would be fine getting a package of Kieff/Tucker/Goodwin + picks for Ibaka.
Sorry, really wouldn't at all. He posted that on the trade board and its kinda a laugher.
I'm gonna have to see this

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lilfishi22 wrote:bondom34 wrote:Qwigglez wrote:^Not at all, just don't think he is a throw in and I imagine the Thunder would be fine getting a package of Kieff/Tucker/Goodwin + picks for Ibaka.
Sorry, really wouldn't at all. He posted that on the trade board and its kinda a laugher.
I'm gonna have to see this
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Damn made it sound like he was getting torched...
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bondom34 wrote:Qwigglez wrote:^Not at all, just don't think he is a throw in and I imagine the Thunder would be fine getting a package of Kieff/Tucker/Goodwin + picks for Ibaka.
Sorry, really wouldn't at all. He posted that on the trade board and its kinda a laugher.
Trade board is overrated. Also, I guess I didn't word what I meant correctly, lol (trying to make food right now). I meant, if the Thunder were fine with his original offer of Kieff/Tucker/Goodwin + picks (and Bogdan) I'm sure they would be fine with Kieff/Tucker/Goodwin + picks (and Miami pick).
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Trading the farm for a guy who is really not that much better than Kieff would be a mistake. I think OKC role players are greatly overrated due to the system.

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ginobiliflops wrote:Trading the farm for a guy who is really not that much better than Kieff would be a mistake. I think OKC role players are greatly overrated due to the system.
I would take Ibaka over Kieff, but the deal posted makes no sense for either of us.
SHAZAM!
Suns traded Mikal Bridges, Cam Johnson, Jae Crowder and 4 1st round picks and a swap so some Vegas Bookies would like us.
Suns traded Mikal Bridges, Cam Johnson, Jae Crowder and 4 1st round picks and a swap so some Vegas Bookies would like us.
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MrMiyagi wrote:ginobiliflops wrote:Trading the farm for a guy who is really not that much better than Kieff would be a mistake. I think OKC role players are greatly overrated due to the system.
I would take Ibaka over Kieff, but the deal posted makes no sense for either of us.
I would too, but not by throwing in 3 additional first round picks- I still consider Archie a 1st round pick since he's 20.

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Which would you choose in these?
Kanter, Waiters and 3 picks or Eric Bledsoe?
Morris, Tucker and 3 picks or Serge Ibaka?
Kanter, Waiters and 3 picks or Eric Bledsoe?
Morris, Tucker and 3 picks or Serge Ibaka?
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ginobiliflops wrote:Trading the farm for a guy who is really not that much better than Kieff would be a mistake. I think OKC role players are greatly overrated due to the system.
I agree. Ibaka's numbers dipped slightly last season IMO due to playing without Durant/Westbrook for a while.
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Mulhollanddrive wrote:Which would you choose in these?
Kanter, Waiters and 3 picks or Eric Bledsoe?
Morris, Tucker and 3 picks or Serge Ibaka?
at this point i couldnt even tell if i'm in the majority or minority....this board is all over the place.
But myself i'd trade Eric for Kanter/Waiters/3 picks.
Our backcourt is as stacked as i'd like it to be with Goodwin/Booker/Bogdan. Eric becomes redundant everywhere. I love he D and rebounding though.
big men are not as abundant as the combo guard, so even in a year or two Kanter's contract will be palatable for a team looking for a scorer/rebounder even with poor D. Besides, with Chander/Len/Tucker, his deficiencies can be covered for.
but honestly, neither team does either trade.
Bledsoe/Morris for Kanter/Ibaka? just to through something else into the mix
Chandler/Len
Ibaka/Kanter/Tele
Tucker/Warren/Weams
Goodwin/Booker
Knight/FA or trade
Adams/McGary
Morris/Collison/Novak
Durant/Singler
Bledsoe/Waiters
Westbrook/Payne