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Re: Expansion Draft Scenario -- Who would you protect? 

Post#21 » by Nebula1 » Mon Jul 27, 2015 12:34 pm

MaxRider wrote:
my rank Harrell > Capela > Dekker > McDaniels



Man, you really have Harrell rated high. I just cannot see it, although I do like him a ton.

Dekker > Capela > McDaniels > Harrell
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Re: Expansion Draft Scenario -- Who would you protect? 

Post#22 » by moofs » Mon Jul 27, 2015 6:39 pm

Nebula1 wrote:
MaxRider wrote:my rank Harrell > Capela > Dekker > McDaniels


Man, you really have Harrell rated high. I just cannot see it, although I do like him a ton.
Dekker > Capela > McDaniels > Harrell


Whoa! Probably because he's 6'7" with a 9'1" standing reach.
Sounds like Shawn Marion without a J.

From what I've seen of Montrezl so far, I'ma go with Max on this.
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Re: Expansion Draft Scenario -- Who would you protect? 

Post#23 » by Nebula1 » Mon Jul 27, 2015 6:50 pm

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Nebula1 wrote:
MaxRider wrote:my rank Harrell > Capela > Dekker > McDaniels


Man, you really have Harrell rated high. I just cannot see it, although I do like him a ton.
Dekker > Capela > McDaniels > Harrell


Whoa! Probably because he's 6'7" with a 9'1" standing reach.
Sounds like Shawn Marion without a J.

From what I've seen of Montrezl so far, I'ma go with Max on this.



He's a beast, no doubt but I don't think he has the pedigree of either Capela or Dekker.
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Re: Expansion Draft Scenario -- Who would you protect? 

Post#24 » by MaxRider » Mon Jul 27, 2015 7:17 pm

Nebula1 wrote:
MaxRider wrote:
my rank Harrell > Capela > Dekker > McDaniels



Man, you really have Harrell rated high. I just cannot see it, although I do like him a ton.

Dekker > Capela > McDaniels > Harrell

he's shorter than most PF
but he has long reach and high motor (he's always active)

Dekker back injury is already scaring me

Capela needs to gain some muscle first

out of those four
i believe Harrell is the one that can crack the rotation now
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Post#25 » by Nebula1 » Mon Jul 27, 2015 7:22 pm

MaxRider wrote:he's shorter than most PF
but he has long reach and high motor (he's always active)

Dekker back injury is already scaring me

Capela needs to gain some muscle first

out of those four
i believe Harrell is the one that can crack the rotation now



Capela has already cracked the rotation and will a primary backup. Harrell will be behind both Jones/Motiejunas regardless of his motor.

A sore back for Dekker is no big deal.


Harrell is a monster dunker though. I do like that.
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Post#26 » by MaxRider » Mon Jul 27, 2015 7:25 pm

Nebula1 wrote:
MaxRider wrote:he's shorter than most PF
but he has long reach and high motor (he's always active)

Dekker back injury is already scaring me

Capela needs to gain some muscle first

out of those four
i believe Harrell is the one that can crack the rotation now



Capela has already cracked the rotation and will a primary backup. Harrell will be behind both Jones/Motiejunas regardless of his motor.

A sore back for Dekker is no big deal.


Harrell is a monster dunker though. I do like that.

Capela didn't really crack the rotation
he just play spot min
in the playoff as soon as Dallas put in Amare
McHale has to sub him out because he doesn't have enough muscle to defend the post
if you don't more than 10 mpg i don't consider that is in the rotation
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Re: Expansion Draft Scenario -- Who would you protect? 

Post#27 » by DonHouston » Tue Jul 28, 2015 4:02 pm

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DonHouston wrote:1.Harden
2.Howard
3.Ariza
4.Montijunas
5.Lawson
6.Brewer
7.Beverely
8.Jones



What about Dekker and/or Capela?


I like both of them a lot but we're in win-now mode and I think these are our pieces to win a championship. I could be convinced to take out Jones though, as I'm much higher on DMo.
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Post#28 » by Nebula1 » Wed Jul 29, 2015 12:18 pm

You guys do realize Dekker is actually taller than Harrell right? And Dekker can shoot and handle.

Dekker and Capela are easily better prospects than Harrell although I do love his energy and aggression.
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Post#29 » by MaxRider » Wed Jul 29, 2015 4:29 pm

Nebula1 wrote:You guys do realize Dekker is actually taller than Harrell right? And Dekker can shoot and handle.

Dekker and Capela are easily better prospects than Harrell although I do love his energy and aggression.

height is overrated
bb iq is more important
Dekker is rank top 15
Harrell is rank top 30
of course Dekker is better
i mention above Dekker recent back injury scare me a little
since we got Ariza/Brewer good for next 3 years so i'm more worry about PF position than SF
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Re: Expansion Draft Scenario -- Who would you protect? 

Post#30 » by Mr. E » Wed Jul 29, 2015 4:51 pm

Has there been anything else about Dekker's back injury?
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Post#31 » by MaxRider » Wed Jul 29, 2015 4:57 pm

Mr. E wrote:Has there been anything else about Dekker's back injury?

no update for more than 2 weeks
first hear he may need surgery
then say it is okay for him to rest
back injury is never a good thing
we know tmac history
we know parsons has back problem
we know dmo has back problem last season too
then boom he's out of the season
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Post#32 » by Mr. E » Wed Jul 29, 2015 5:44 pm

Yeah, back injuries are always concerning. Even if it is minor there is always a concern.

That's why I thought that Jones had more trade value than Motiejunas back when we thought one would be needed for a big trade.
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Re: Expansion Draft Scenario -- Who would you protect? 

Post#33 » by Nebula1 » Wed Jul 29, 2015 7:59 pm

MaxRider wrote:
Nebula1 wrote:You guys do realize Dekker is actually taller than Harrell right? And Dekker can shoot and handle.

Dekker and Capela are easily better prospects than Harrell although I do love his energy and aggression.

height is overrated
bb iq is more important
Dekker is rank top 15
Harrell is rank top 30
of course Dekker is better
i mention above Dekker recent back injury scare me a little
since we got Ariza/Brewer good for next 3 years so i'm more worry about PF position than SF



Height is not overrated... Yeah wingspan etc.. but you still need to be tall in the NBA.

I just think Dekker is a vastly superior prospect and it's wise to keep your best assets, regardless. I'm not worried about his back at all.
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Post#34 » by MaxRider » Wed Jul 29, 2015 8:08 pm

height is overrated because people has problem with 6'8" PF with 7'5" wingspan but not with 6'11" PF with 6'11" wingspan
the 6'8" PF actually has higher standing reach
i'm talking about Elton Brand and Troy Murphy here
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Post#35 » by Nebula1 » Wed Jul 29, 2015 8:36 pm

MaxRider wrote:height is overrated because people has problem with 6'8" PF with 7'5" wingspan but not with 6'11" PF with 6'11" wingspan
the 6'8" PF actually has higher standing reach
i'm talking about Elton Brand and Troy Murphy here



I'm talking about a player with no offensive game, undersized and works strictly on hustle versus a taller guy, with a ton of game and the potential to be a PF in the NBA. I don't think it's even close.


In this exercise, I think you keep your 8 most valuable assets and both Capela and Dekker are two of those.
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Post#36 » by MaxRider » Wed Jul 29, 2015 9:11 pm

Nebula1 wrote:
MaxRider wrote:height is overrated because people has problem with 6'8" PF with 7'5" wingspan but not with 6'11" PF with 6'11" wingspan
the 6'8" PF actually has higher standing reach
i'm talking about Elton Brand and Troy Murphy here



I'm talking about a player with no offensive game, undersized and works strictly on hustle versus a taller guy, with a ton of game and the potential to be a PF in the NBA. I don't think it's even close.


In this exercise, I think you keep your 8 most valuable assets and both Capela and Dekker are two of those.

who are the other 6?
our best 8 are Harden, Howard, Ariza, Brewer, Motiejunas, Jones, Lawson, Beverley
who are you going to take out? Brewer and Beverley?
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Post#37 » by Nebula1 » Wed Jul 29, 2015 9:23 pm

1. Harden
2. Howard
3. Ariza
4. Lawson
5. Dekker
6. Capela
7. Jones or Motiejunas
8. Brewer or Beverley

I take Jones and Brewer and leave Motiejunas and Beverley subject to the expansion draft. I assume Motiejunas would be the pick, thus protecting Beverley.
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Post#38 » by MaxRider » Wed Jul 29, 2015 10:24 pm

looking back at Bobcats expansion draft
it is actually done before the draft
so if there is one this season
we don't have to worry about Dekker and Harrell
and it is also before free agent signing
so we don't have to worry about Brewer and Beverley
then we may not have the pieces to trade for Lawson

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