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Post#41 » by SIC » Thu Aug 13, 2015 8:10 pm

Prokorov wrote:i see 33-34 wins.

it is also comical to write off teams like milwaukee cause they "finsihed 11-18" and view all their guys they lost as catasrophic. and also no much they DESTROYED us in a must win game late in the year. but then when it comes to our team everyone is primed for a career year/all-star bid or will be good because they played in the playoffs in their careers. also none of our subtractions will hurt us and we are better without anyone we lost.

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Post#42 » by SIC » Thu Aug 13, 2015 8:13 pm

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That shot was to tie the game. The Hawks would've had the ball with a chance to win and if not it would've gone to go to overtime. That shot cost us a chance to win the game. It was a game tying shot NOT a game winning shot he missed.


Nitpick all you want.

We played better than what people expected with DWill sucking the entire series.


I'm just pointing out a fallacy in your statement. If Deron made that shot we weren't guaranteed a win. Therefore, we weren't an open 12ft baseline jumper from going to seven games.


Thanks.

If Dwill hits that shot, Nets would have been tied. It would be up to ATL to win the game. I should been more ACCURATE.
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Re: Nets Schedule For 2015 

Post#43 » by MrDollarBills » Thu Aug 13, 2015 8:13 pm

Prokorov wrote:i see 33-34 wins.

it is also comical to write off teams like milwaukee cause they "finsihed 11-18" and view all their guys they lost as catasrophic. and also no much they DESTROYED us in a must win game late in the year. but then when it comes to our team everyone is primed for a career year/all-star bid or will be good because they played in the playoffs in their careers. also none of our subtractions will hurt us and we are better without anyone we lost.

if i wanted that kind of D riding slurping homer analysis id go read ND


:lol:

Team Realism is set to go for the regular season!

I call 32-35 wins, just looking at this roster. Too many D-Tier players, unknowns with the rookies, and our PG platoon situation can seriously hurt us if Larkin can't step up.


Best case scenario to avoid the lottery:

-Brook plays in "Beast Lopez" mode all season long, which makes Brook an A tier player and an all star. Can it happen? Possibly. But I know better than to be optimistic when it comes to the Nets.

-Bojan makes the transition from year 1 to year 2 and becomes a consistent scorer. This will be HUGE.

-RHJ can hit the ground running and become the starting SF, and hits his 3s at a 32%-35% clip in year one to keep the defenses honest. GOOD LUCK WITH THAT. His rebounding, ball handling, defense (especially in the passing lane) will all translate immediately but if he cannot hit his jumpers it will be a long season.

-Thad continues to give us good consistent play, and can maintain his 3pt shooting at above 35%. That would be critical considering none of the PGs can shoot 3s to save their lives

-Shane Larkin comes into the season with a chip on his shoulder and boosts the PG platoon with some good production. I will not hold my breath here.

-Old Man Joe accepts a bench role and becomes a killer off of the bench. He'll finish games, and he can maintain his body all season long, giving us a healthy 14-15ppg a night. This actually could have a good chance of happening.

-A light goes off in one of our young D-Tier guys and they become a reliable option. maybe thomas robinson finally gets his due? Quincy Miller explodes in training camp? This will require prayer.

I expect maximum effort from this team, but I expect the losses to mount because our lack of talent will do us in. At least we can root for these guys.
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Re: Nets Schedule For 2015 

Post#44 » by Paradise » Thu Aug 13, 2015 11:42 pm

I don't nesscearily think we need any of the D tier signings like T Rob to have a terrific season. Robinson came off a year where he grabbed 22% of rebounds. That's the highest percentage of an individual rebounded we've had since Reggie Evans and Kris Humphries. That's an upgrade regardless.

Ellington won't bring the defense and toughness of Alan Anderson but he is a much better outside threat and we desperately needed a wing shooter. So, that's another automatic hole addressed.

We need improvement at the PG position meaning Larkin would have to be as good or slightly better than Deron last season with playmaking, penetration and shooting....and in all honesty, that isn't very hard to accomplish.

Call me naive but I think we will be better defensively and on the glass which will carry over to some wins compared to last year but as I said before, a losing season where we miss the playoffs wouldn't bother me as much if we had some draft picks to develop as a consultation. Watching us form an identity as an organization with some potential cornerstones and pieces like RHJ, McC, Larkin, Brown, Bogs softens the blow of a losing season to me.
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Post#45 » by MrDollarBills » Fri Aug 14, 2015 2:50 am

I don't give a damn about the draft pick at this point. Its gone.

the goals of this season are the development of young players. The establishment of a culture of accountability, reliability, and competitive play. Brook Lopez healthy and finally embraces his talent level and plays A Tier level ball that I think that he can if he just plays aggressive and asserts himself. Bojan realizes that he is a legit NBA player and plays with confidence and aggressively. Almost reckless. I think Bojan can be really good but to me its all about confidence.

To me, if Brook and Bojan step up, it will lift the other guys. if they play timid, passive...we will lose. Its that simple (outside of injuries, obv).

I need to see it to believe it though.
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Post#46 » by Universe » Fri Aug 14, 2015 4:06 pm

Goal to start season should be aiming for a .500 record. Got unlucky in that department and also unlucky for all Canadian Nets fans.
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Post#47 » by jbeachboy » Fri Aug 14, 2015 4:34 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:
Prokorov wrote:i see 33-34 wins.

it is also comical to write off teams like milwaukee cause they "finsihed 11-18" and view all their guys they lost as catasrophic. and also no much they DESTROYED us in a must win game late in the year. but then when it comes to our team everyone is primed for a career year/all-star bid or will be good because they played in the playoffs in their careers. also none of our subtractions will hurt us and we are better without anyone we lost.

if i wanted that kind of D riding slurping homer analysis id go read ND


:lol:

Team Realism is set to go for the regular season!

I call 32-35 wins, just looking at this roster. Too many D-Tier players, unknowns with the rookies, and our PG platoon situation can seriously hurt us if Larkin can't step up.


Best case scenario to avoid the lottery:

-Brook plays in "Beast Lopez" mode all season long, which makes Brook an A tier player and an all star. Can it happen? Possibly. But I know better than to be optimistic when it comes to the Nets.

-Bojan makes the transition from year 1 to year 2 and becomes a consistent scorer. This will be HUGE.

-RHJ can hit the ground running and become the starting SF, and hits his 3s at a 32%-35% clip in year one to keep the defenses honest. GOOD LUCK WITH THAT. His rebounding, ball handling, defense (especially in the passing lane) will all translate immediately but if he cannot hit his jumpers it will be a long season.

-Thad continues to give us good consistent play, and can maintain his 3pt shooting at above 35%. That would be critical considering none of the PGs can shoot 3s to save their lives

-Shane Larkin comes into the season with a chip on his shoulder and boosts the PG platoon with some good production. I will not hold my breath here.

-Old Man Joe accepts a bench role and becomes a killer off of the bench. He'll finish games, and he can maintain his body all season long, giving us a healthy 14-15ppg a night. This actually could have a good chance of happening.

-A light goes off in one of our young D-Tier guys and they become a reliable option. maybe thomas robinson finally gets his due? Quincy Miller explodes in training camp? This will require prayer.

I expect maximum effort from this team, but I expect the losses to mount because our lack of talent will do us in. At least we can root for these guys.




hollins said that he expects joe johnson to be the starter for the year at moment. from rotoworld "I doubt Joe will be coming off the bench this year," Hollins said. "I don’t think we have anybody to put Joe in a position where he’ll have to come off the bench. But if that should happen, we’ll talk about it and deal with it, but I envision him being a starter." Rondae Hollis-Jefferson is still a threat to Johnson, but his offensive limitations could hold him back. Johnson's best days are clearly behind him and it wouldn't be surprising if Hollins keeps him on a short leash if he doesn't perform
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Post#48 » by Born_Ready » Fri Aug 14, 2015 4:41 pm

On the surface this schedule doesn't look too advantageous for them. I'm hopeful that the culture change brings some more wins.
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Re: Nets Schedule For 2015 

Post#49 » by Prokorov » Fri Aug 14, 2015 6:24 pm

SIC wrote:
Prokorov wrote:i see 33-34 wins.

it is also comical to write off teams like milwaukee cause they "finsihed 11-18" and view all their guys they lost as catasrophic. and also no much they DESTROYED us in a must win game late in the year. but then when it comes to our team everyone is primed for a career year/all-star bid or will be good because they played in the playoffs in their careers. also none of our subtractions will hurt us and we are better without anyone we lost.

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Post#50 » by Prokorov » Fri Aug 14, 2015 6:28 pm

we arent close to good enough offensively to bench johnson. our shooting would be absolutely putrid. and while the trade off is defense, we wouldnt be an eltie defensive team to where it would be worth it. where would the offense come when teams focus on stopping brook? Bogs and jack? yikes.
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Post#51 » by SIC » Fri Aug 14, 2015 7:42 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:I don't give a damn about the draft pick at this point. Its gone.

the goals of this season are the development of young players. The establishment of a culture of accountability, reliability, and competitive play. Brook Lopez healthy and finally embraces his talent level and plays A Tier level ball that I think that he can if he just plays aggressive and asserts himself. Bojan realizes that he is a legit NBA player and plays with confidence and aggressively. Almost reckless. I think Bojan can be really good but to me its all about confidence.

To me, if Brook and Bojan step up, it will lift the other guys. if they play timid, passive...we will lose. Its that simple (outside of injuries, obv).

I need to see it to believe it though.


You forgot two very important factors.

1) Jack plays like a PG instead of a shoot first Hero Baller
2) JJ passes the ball out of doubles and doesnt waste the shot clock.

IMO Jack and JJ are capable of doing those things. The question is do they want to do that and does Hollins tell them to do that along with bench them for NOT doing it.
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Post#52 » by Prokorov » Fri Aug 14, 2015 8:04 pm

SIC wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:I don't give a damn about the draft pick at this point. Its gone.

the goals of this season are the development of young players. The establishment of a culture of accountability, reliability, and competitive play. Brook Lopez healthy and finally embraces his talent level and plays A Tier level ball that I think that he can if he just plays aggressive and asserts himself. Bojan realizes that he is a legit NBA player and plays with confidence and aggressively. Almost reckless. I think Bojan can be really good but to me its all about confidence.

To me, if Brook and Bojan step up, it will lift the other guys. if they play timid, passive...we will lose. Its that simple (outside of injuries, obv).

I need to see it to believe it though.


You forgot two very important factors.

1) Jack plays like a PG instead of a shoot first Hero Baller
2) JJ passes the ball out of doubles and doesnt waste the shot clock.

IMO Jack and JJ are capable of doing those things. The question is do they want to do that and does Hollins tell them to do that along with bench them for NOT doing it.


johnson always apsses out of double teams. IMO it is his #1 strength as a player. his passing out of double teams especially out of the post.

if ack and jj both do tha i still see us as a 35 win team. we lack talent, depth, shooting, and defense. and we have a ton of new players. i doubt we are very good
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Post#53 » by MrDollarBills » Fri Aug 14, 2015 8:14 pm

Johnson has always been an underrated passer because he is mostly known for scoring, but coming out of college he was drawing comparisons to Anfernee Hardaway because of his size/handle/passing skills. He's had a few seasons where he posted decent assist numbers for his position.

Actually now that I think about it, maybe Johnson being more of a facilitator this year would be a good idea. He can't get past anyone and his post game looked like it was finished last season.
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Post#54 » by MrDollarBills » Fri Aug 14, 2015 8:17 pm

Prokorov wrote:we arent close to good enough offensively to bench johnson. our shooting would be absolutely putrid. and while the trade off is defense, we wouldnt be an eltie defensive team to where it would be worth it. where would the offense come when teams focus on stopping brook? Bogs and jack? yikes.


I know. But the idea of Jack/Bojan/Joe on the perimeter is frightening because it will be a layup drill out there.

None of the combinations that i put together even remotely = balance.
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Post#55 » by brooklynoz » Sun Aug 16, 2015 11:04 am

Hey guys, will be over in the states in a couple months and will be in NY for our pre-season games against philly & boston.
Just a question, I've looked at tickets and cheapest seats are $36 and this is a pre-season game! Is that normal, I would have thought surely a pre-season game would be cheap as chips.
Or are the prices for regular season tickets even higher than the ones for the pre-season.
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Post#56 » by MrDollarBills » Sun Aug 16, 2015 11:59 am

Nets tickets are overpriced.
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Post#57 » by Paradise » Sun Aug 16, 2015 2:49 pm

brooklynoz wrote:Hey guys, will be over in the states in a couple months and will be in NY for our pre-season games against philly & boston.
Just a question, I've looked at tickets and cheapest seats are $36 and this is a pre-season game! Is that normal, I would have thought surely a pre-season game would be cheap as chips.
Or are the prices for regular season tickets even higher than the ones for the pre-season.

Sites like stubhub will usually sell them at cheaper prices.
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Post#58 » by Hello Brooklyn » Mon Aug 17, 2015 12:22 am

brooklynoz wrote:Hey guys, will be over in the states in a couple months and will be in NY for our pre-season games against philly & boston.
Just a question, I've looked at tickets and cheapest seats are $36 and this is a pre-season game! Is that normal, I would have thought surely a pre-season game would be cheap as chips.
Or are the prices for regular season tickets even higher than the ones for the pre-season.


Yeah Nets tickets are getting pretty expensive just cause theyre in the city. I remember back when they were in NJ I would get lower level seats on Stubhub for $12.

But like other said check out stubhub for the cheapest prices.
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Post#59 » by brooklynoz » Mon Aug 17, 2015 5:09 am

Hello Brooklyn wrote:
brooklynoz wrote:Hey guys, will be over in the states in a couple months and will be in NY for our pre-season games against philly & boston.
Just a question, I've looked at tickets and cheapest seats are $36 and this is a pre-season game! Is that normal, I would have thought surely a pre-season game would be cheap as chips.
Or are the prices for regular season tickets even higher than the ones for the pre-season.


Yeah Nets tickets are getting pretty expensive just cause theyre in the city. I remember back when they were in NJ I would get lower level seats on Stubhub for $12.

But like other said check out stubhub for the cheapest prices.

Yeah the pre-season tickets aren't on stubhub yet, not sure why.
Would it be better off waiting closer to the date and the prices will go down or bit of a lottery?
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Post#60 » by Mkdaman1818 » Mon Aug 17, 2015 4:13 pm

brooklynoz wrote:
Hello Brooklyn wrote:
brooklynoz wrote:Hey guys, will be over in the states in a couple months and will be in NY for our pre-season games against philly & boston.
Just a question, I've looked at tickets and cheapest seats are $36 and this is a pre-season game! Is that normal, I would have thought surely a pre-season game would be cheap as chips.
Or are the prices for regular season tickets even higher than the ones for the pre-season.


Yeah Nets tickets are getting pretty expensive just cause theyre in the city. I remember back when they were in NJ I would get lower level seats on Stubhub for $12.

But like other said check out stubhub for the cheapest prices.

Yeah the pre-season tickets aren't on stubhub yet, not sure why.
Would it be better off waiting closer to the date and the prices will go down or bit of a lottery?



Definitely wait. They will go down.

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