OT: TMZ - Rose being sued/accused of drugging and gang raping former GF

[mj234eva]

Hear you loud and clear. I just dont think thats the right approach in protecting Derrick's image.

Image is nothing, thirst is everything. Obey your thirst.

[Shill]

You still got people bringing up Kim Kardashian's sex tape, yet her popularity, bank account, and mainstream marketability continue to grow.

There will always be haters who hold onto stuff. They don't represent the majority.

I am not a hater - I am the one who brought up the Kim Kardhashian sex tape to make a completely different point to the one that you are making.

That people dont want to know about other people's sexual lives in the context of a rape lawsuit and allegations of drugs and gangbangs.

People are curious as a whole - and love reality shows and all of that stuff - but I dont want Derrick's life relegated to that level. It may make him more money and more marketable in OTHER areas of the economy. But it sure as **** doesnt make him a better basketball player.

Kinda like how Lamar Odom and Kris Humphries became more popular celebrities in the non-NBA world after associating themselves with the Kardashians.

World of good it did to their basketball lives.

Lets not forget context here - your argument is that somehow this lawsuit NOT a big deal. It very much is.

My argument is if Rose is found not liable (I don't even think it will make it to trial), the fallout will be no big deal. The Bulls aren't going to void his NBA contract. Adidas isn't going to void his shoe contract. I would guess it isn't going to adversely affect his on-court performance.

What else is there? A few people might not buy his jersey? A few people might hold up signs at away games? He might not do Giordano's commercials for a while?

The UC is still going to be packed. His name is still going to be announced last. They're still going to chant "MVP" in the 4th quarter when he's having a great game.

[Fast Dont Fib]

There are already people in here who are saying they don't like to know this side of the coin. It doesn't matter whether it's right, or wrong, or rational for them to care about knowing this information. And i can't think of any star athlete that has thrived more off of the assumption that he was different from the rest of the stars. He was sold as the humble, good kid. It's irrelevant whether people should have known or assumed differently. This isn't the image that those who have paid him massive amounts of money want out there. Not that there's any true silver lining in any of this but he is probably lucky this came out now, and not as he was just starting to blow up. He would have still gotten his money from the Bulls but i'd have to suspect it would have put a dent into the possible fortunes he's made off the court from other ventures.

I don't think that having an adventurous sex life (and I'm not sure that having an occasional threesome is all that adventurous by superstar standards) precludes him from being a humble, good kid. Assuming he did in fact do nothing criminal.

I don't believe those things correlate to the good kid image either for what it's worth. I just know there are plenty of people in the world who will though. I don't care to go too much deeper into this though. My line of responses was in regards to a comment that made it seem like there will be no PR impact from this. I just don't personally believe that there is nothing to be lost from this, even if negligable.

[Love4TheGame]

Is this thread about Rose's decision to cautiously return from ACL surgery a couple seasons ago?

It seems that the same people that disliked Rose because he didn't return when they wanted him to, are the same people in this thread hoping that these bs allegations stick and he loses endorsement money or gets traded by the Bulls.

Let it go ... Let the hate go ... Lol

[ChicagoStrong]

Is this thread about Rose's decision to cautiously return from ACL surgery a couple seasons ago?

It seems that the same people that disliked Rose because he didn't return when they wanted him to, are the same people in this thread hoping that these bs allegations stick and he loses endorsement money or gets traded by the Bulls.

Let it go ... Let the hate go ... Lol

No one is in here doing that



And if you signed up in 2015, how do you know who those people are?

[jcuuofd]

I don't think the plaintiff should be able to hide behind a pseudonym. There is a presumption that courts should be open to the public. If people knew who she was then potentially more witnesses would come forward to refute her claims or which would show her to be a dishonest person. It is also worth noting that one of her attorneys has been disciplined by the state bar 3 separate times for multiple cases that he handled.

[JasonFTW]

Hear you loud and clear. I just dont think thats the right approach in protecting Derrick's image.

Image is nothing, thirst is everything. Obey your thirst.

For some reason I want to drink a Sprite.

[Love4TheGame]

Is this thread about Rose's decision to cautiously return from ACL surgery a couple seasons ago?

It seems that the same people that disliked Rose because he didn't return when they wanted him to, are the same people in this thread hoping that these bs allegations stick and he loses endorsement money or gets traded by the Bulls.

Let it go ... Let the hate go ... Lol

No one is in here doing that



And if you signed up in 2015, how do you know who those people are?

Well, it was being debated just a few months ago, so I don't understand what you're trying to imply.

Since you're putting on your tin foil hat, maybe I can put on mine and ask are you a secondary account of one of the mods

[johnnyvann840]

Its hard for anyone to believe that superstars are rapist. Guys like Tiger Woods Kobe Russel Wilson Kaepernick Tom Brady Lebron Curry KD Rose hell even James harden can get pussy anytime they want literally. Sounds like a money grabbing gold digging thot to me.

You do realize that Kobe did rape that woman, right?

you were there?

[musiqsoulchild]

You still got people bringing up Kim Kardashian's sex tape, yet her popularity, bank account, and mainstream marketability continue to grow.

There will always be haters who hold onto stuff. They don't represent the majority.

I am not a hater - I am the one who brought up the Kim Kardhashian sex tape to make a completely different point to the one that you are making.

That people dont want to know about other people's sexual lives in the context of a rape lawsuit and allegations of drugs and gangbangs.

People are curious as a whole - and love reality shows and all of that stuff - but I dont want Derrick's life relegated to that level. It may make him more money and more marketable in OTHER areas of the economy. But it sure as **** doesnt make him a better basketball player.

Kinda like how Lamar Odom and Kris Humphries became more popular celebrities in the non-NBA world after associating themselves with the Kardashians.

World of good it did to their basketball lives.

Lets not forget context here - your argument is that somehow this lawsuit NOT a big deal. It very much is.

My argument is if Rose is found not liable (I don't even think it will make it to trial), the fallout will be no big deal. The Bulls aren't going to void his NBA contract. Adidas isn't going to void his shoe contract. I would guess it isn't going to adversely affect his on-court performance.

What else is there? A few people might not buy his jersey? A few people might hold up signs at away games? He might not do Giordano's commercials for a while?

The UC is still going to be packed. His name is still going to be announced last. They're still going to chant "MVP" in the 4th quarter when he's having a great game.

Who are you debating and what is your point?

There is a 1-2% chance that this case maybe true - so there is a 1-2% chance that a devastating event might happen to my Chicago Bulls.

I am not OK with that. I am not going to rationalize that away by weird, illogical arguments about the woman's friends, her masturbatory habits, her unlocked door, her prior attemps to garner money in the lawsuit and how her lawyer at this point is a bad person.

I dont care - I care that the 1-2% chance of something bad happening DOES not occur.

[Tenchi Ryu]

Just shows how effed up a situation can get for you if you are truly innocent in BS like this. No type of evidence what so ever is needed for people to already start making their opinions of you and consider you guilty.

Got to watch who you dealing with, rich or not.

[errisal]

Wasn't he engaged, during portions of this time? If not all of it? How old is his son again?

Not sure how he being engaged or married factors in. I say the percentage of faithful professional NBA players is quite low, and I'd bet a large percentage of the wives are aware of this fact.

It matters in the idea that these guys have all of this money and they put it on the line for some broke-ass nitwits. The smart players would do their flings with women who have money and something to lose by coming out publicly. This just shows that Rose is just as dumb off the court as he is on the court. I say Mike Tyson his ass and give him the same judge Tyson had.

[Polynice4Pippen]

Wasn't he engaged, during portions of this time? If not all of it? How old is his son again?

Not sure how he being engaged or married factors in. I say the percentage of faithful professional NBA players is quite low, and I'd bet a large percentage of the wives are aware of this fact.

It matters in the idea that these guys have all of this money and they put it on the line for some broke-ass nitwits. The smart players would do their flings with women who have money and something to lose by coming out publicly. This just shows that Rose is just as dumb off the court as he is on the court. I say Mike Tyson his ass and give him the same judge Tyson had.

[almanbulls]

We all need to take a breath and smoke crack. Derrick Rose is innocent. End of argument. Go home, scrubs.

[Keller61]

You still got people bringing up Kim Kardashian's sex tape, yet her popularity, bank account, and mainstream marketability continue to grow.

There will always be haters who hold onto stuff. They don't represent the majority.

I am not a hater - I am the one who brought up the Kim Kardhashian sex tape to make a completely different point to the one that you are making.

That people dont want to know about other people's sexual lives in the context of a rape lawsuit and allegations of drugs and gangbangs.

People are curious as a whole - and love reality shows and all of that stuff - but I dont want Derrick's life relegated to that level. It may make him more money and more marketable in OTHER areas of the economy. But it sure as **** doesnt make him a better basketball player.

Kinda like how Lamar Odom and Kris Humphries became more popular celebrities in the non-NBA world after associating themselves with the Kardashians.

World of good it did to their basketball lives.

Lets not forget context here - your argument is that somehow this lawsuit NOT a big deal. It very much is.

My argument is if Rose is found not liable (I don't even think it will make it to trial), the fallout will be no big deal. The Bulls aren't going to void his NBA contract. Adidas isn't going to void his shoe contract. I would guess it isn't going to adversely affect his on-court performance.

What else is there? A few people might not buy his jersey? A few people might hold up signs at away games? He might not do Giordano's commercials for a while?

The UC is still going to be packed. His name is still going to be announced last. They're still going to chant "MVP" in the 4th quarter when he's having a great game.

For me personally, as the biggest Rose fanboy around, I'm going to need something more than "not enough proof that he did it". I'm going to need some convincing evidence in the other direction. I just don't think I can root for Derrick in the same way if I have a thought in the back of my mind that he *might* have done this.

[consultant]

Interesting how there are no criminal charges in this case. I wonder how difficult it is to get damages in a civil sexual assault case, without criminal charges.

Does seem rather suspicious. More because I don't see why Derrick Rose of all people would go through the trouble of breaking into someone's home to sexually assault them with a bunch of dudes. He could hire whoever he wanted for something similar but consensual.

[Wingy]

It is incredibly rare for women to lie about being raped. It would be shocking for any mentally competent women to lie about a rape this barbaric. Reading through a lot of comments in this thread, its not hard to understand why most victims of sexual assault do not come forward at all.

Really pretty shocking and sad. While this story does sound fishy and it will play out through the legal system, in general...

Get your **** together and get educated. I feel like this thread has shown there are a lot more boys on this board than grown men.

I'm specifically referring to the crap like "Oh, ya got raped? Well, jump right up and tell the world! How could anyone wait a couple years?"

Again, these allegations could be complete garbage, but pretty sad that some are clueless to how traumatizing such a violent act is.

[Shill]

Who are you debating and what is your point?

There is a 1-2% chance that this case maybe true - so there is a 1-2% chance that a devastating event might happen to my Chicago Bulls.

I am not OK with that. I am not going to rationalize that away by weird, illogical arguments about the woman's friends, her masturbatory habits, her unlocked door, her prior attemps to garner money in the lawsuit and how her lawyer at this point is a bad person.

I dont care - I care that the 1-2% chance of something bad happening DOES not occur.

I made a post that he won't take a significant PR hit if nothing comes of this. You responded to my post, then I responded to your reply.

I don't think my point was ambiguous.

[almanbulls]

It is incredibly rare for women to lie about being raped. It would be shocking for any mentally competent women to lie about a rape this barbaric. Reading through a lot of comments in this thread, its not hard to understand why most victims of sexual assault do not come forward at all.

Really pretty shocking and sad. While this story does sound fishy and it will play out through the legal system, in general...

Get your **** together and get educated. I feel like this thread has shown there are a lot more boys on this board than grown men.

But yet lying about rape happens. Especially to Rich and Famous people. Of course she made it as detailed as she could, make it seem real. I personally think she went overboard and put a few holes in the story and question marks so it's a very flimsy case.
Question time. What was the first thought that popped into your head reading the headline? I woke up, and looked on my phone and see the headline Rose getting sued by ex for rape. I literally say Whattttttttt?!????? and scratch my head. Makes no **** sense. He can have any chick he wants he ain't chasing no bitch for 2 years trying to get a BJ. Now I think most women don't lie about being raped, but it does happen. But due to the number of holes and sketchiness of the whole thing with many many questions. Its not like Cosby at all. Cosby had many people come forward. Cosby of NBA is a wrongful title.
Derrick Rose is innocent until there is real proof, and Subpoenas start serving out to witnesses and real evidence is shown. It will all come to light soon enough.

[GetBuLLish]

It is incredibly rare for women to lie about being raped. It would be shocking for any mentally competent women to lie about a rape this barbaric. Reading through a lot of comments in this thread, its not hard to understand why most victims of sexual assault do not come forward at all.

Really pretty shocking and sad. While this story does sound fishy and it will play out through the legal system, in general...

Get your **** together and get educated. I feel like this thread has shown there are a lot more boys on this board than grown men.

I'm specifically referring to the crap like "Oh, ya got raped? Well, jump right up and tell the world! How could anyone wait a couple years?"

Again, these allegations could be complete garbage, but pretty sad that some are clueless to how traumatizing such a violent act is.

Get out of here with this holier than thou b.s.

There's a reason why people are dismissing this claim at this point, and it has nothing to do with being a boy, rather than a man like you. It has to do with the fact that this lady's story is absolutely outrageous, that she never went to the police, but instead decided to hire multiple lawyers to extract money out of Rose (with the first two lawyers dropper her case almost certainly because they knew it was bs), and that her story has more holes than swiss cheese, even before Rose has mounted any sort of defense.