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Re: Super Lintendo: The Jeremy Lin Thread 

Post#1321 » by spaceballer » Sun Oct 4, 2015 6:15 pm

LamarMatic7 wrote:So good (speaking selfishly from the team's perspective) that he doesn't have a player option at the end of the year. If we're decent and he averages 13, 14 points per game, I think there's no way someone wouldn't pay him around 7, 8 mil next summer with the abundance of cap space teams have.

I still have to marvel at the contract we got him on.


He does have a player option. The second year is a player option.

But since every team will have extra cap space next summer, that includes the Hornets. So the Hornets can decide if they want to lock him in for a longer contract at a market value price after this season. The Hornets should be just as able to compete for Lin's services as the next team, given that everyone has cap space this summer.

And he gets to decide if he wants to make a long term commitment and stay in Charlotte after this season, depending on how he meshes with the players and whether he likes his role, coach, minutes, direction of the team, Charlotte lifestyle, etc.

The team gets to decide if he works well with what they want going ahead, and whether they see him as a long term piece and want him to come back or not.

I don't expect the 2nd year player option for $2M (virtually vet min) to be exercised unless there's a serious injury.
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Re: Super Lintendo: The Jeremy Lin Thread 

Post#1322 » by LamarMatic7 » Sun Oct 4, 2015 6:47 pm

spaceballer wrote:
LamarMatic7 wrote:So good (speaking selfishly from the team's perspective) that he doesn't have a player option at the end of the year. If we're decent and he averages 13, 14 points per game, I think there's no way someone wouldn't pay him around 7, 8 mil next summer with the abundance of cap space teams have.

I still have to marvel at the contract we got him on.


He does have a player option. The second year is a player option.

But since every team will have extra cap space next summer, that includes the Hornets. So the Hornets can decide if they want to lock him in for a longer contract at a market value price after this season. The Hornets should be just as able to compete for Lin's services as the next team, given that everyone has cap space this summer.

And he gets to decide if he wants to make a long term commitment and stay in Charlotte after this season, depending on how he meshes with the players and whether he likes his role, coach, minutes, direction of the team, Charlotte lifestyle, etc.

The team gets to decide if he works well with what they want going ahead, and whether they see him as a long term piece and want him to come back or not.

I don't expect the 2nd year player option for $2M (virtually vet min) to be exercised unless there's a serious injury.


note to myself not to always trust BK-ref's payroll section.
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Re: Super Lintendo: The Jeremy Lin Thread 

Post#1323 » by spaceballer » Sun Oct 4, 2015 6:56 pm

LamarMatic7 wrote:
spaceballer wrote:
LamarMatic7 wrote:So good (speaking selfishly from the team's perspective) that he doesn't have a player option at the end of the year. If we're decent and he averages 13, 14 points per game, I think there's no way someone wouldn't pay him around 7, 8 mil next summer with the abundance of cap space teams have.

I still have to marvel at the contract we got him on.


He does have a player option. The second year is a player option.

But since every team will have extra cap space next summer, that includes the Hornets. So the Hornets can decide if they want to lock him in for a longer contract at a market value price after this season. The Hornets should be just as able to compete for Lin's services as the next team, given that everyone has cap space this summer.

And he gets to decide if he wants to make a long term commitment and stay in Charlotte after this season, depending on how he meshes with the players and whether he likes his role, coach, minutes, direction of the team, Charlotte lifestyle, etc.

The team gets to decide if he works well with what they want going ahead, and whether they see him as a long term piece and want him to come back or not.

I don't expect the 2nd year player option for $2M (virtually vet min) to be exercised unless there's a serious injury.


note to myself not to always trust BK-ref's payroll section.


For payroll stuff, I like to use Spotrac. They not only color code the various options and cap hits, but they also differentiate between cap hit and actual base salary payout in the rare instances where the two differ. Along with transaction histories of the deals signed.

Hornets: http://www.spotrac.com/nba/charlotte-hornets/yearly/cap/
Lin: http://www.spotrac.com/nba/charlotte-hornets/jeremy-lin/
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Re: Super Lintendo: The Jeremy Lin Thread 

Post#1324 » by LamarMatic7 » Sun Oct 4, 2015 7:03 pm

spaceballer wrote:
LamarMatic7 wrote:
spaceballer wrote:
He does have a player option. The second year is a player option.

But since every team will have extra cap space next summer, that includes the Hornets. So the Hornets can decide if they want to lock him in for a longer contract at a market value price after this season. The Hornets should be just as able to compete for Lin's services as the next team, given that everyone has cap space this summer.

And he gets to decide if he wants to make a long term commitment and stay in Charlotte after this season, depending on how he meshes with the players and whether he likes his role, coach, minutes, direction of the team, Charlotte lifestyle, etc.

The team gets to decide if he works well with what they want going ahead, and whether they see him as a long term piece and want him to come back or not.

I don't expect the 2nd year player option for $2M (virtually vet min) to be exercised unless there's a serious injury.


note to myself not to always trust BK-ref's payroll section.


For payroll stuff, I like to use Spotrac. They not only color code the various options and cap hits, but they also differentiate between cap hit and actual salary payout in the rare instances where the two differ.

Hornets: http://www.spotrac.com/nba/charlotte-hornets/yearly/cap/
Lin: http://www.spotrac.com/nba/charlotte-hornets/jeremy-lin/


ShamSports was my favorite, yet Mark Deeks seemingly doesn't have the time to update it any more. Because of that I had been going to basketball-reference and hoopshype, but I guess I will give Spotrac a try from now on. Thanks!
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Re: Super Lintendo: The Jeremy Lin Thread 

Post#1325 » by spaceballer » Sun Oct 4, 2015 7:23 pm

If you look at the current year's table, it notes that JLin only takes up 3.06% of the Hornets' cap space (Al takes up 19.29% of the cap).

I'd say Jeremy's giving really good value for just 3% of the cap. He costs less than rookies like Frank.

http://www.spotrac.com/nba/charlotte-hornets/cap/
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Re: Super Lintendo: The Jeremy Lin Thread 

Post#1326 » by red32 » Sun Oct 4, 2015 7:39 pm

spaceballer wrote:JLin highlights from Magic vs. Hornets preseason game.

From GDFactoryClips:

From Dawkins:

He needs to keep his head up. The dude often, way too often, just puts his head down and drive - that's how he gets himself into trouble trapped and jumping in the air trying to pass.
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Re: Super Lintendo: The Jeremy Lin Thread 

Post#1327 » by TTNN » Sun Oct 4, 2015 8:03 pm

spaceballer wrote:
LamarMatic7 wrote:
spaceballer wrote:
He does have a player option. The second year is a player option.

But since every team will have extra cap space next summer, that includes the Hornets. So the Hornets can decide if they want to lock him in for a longer contract at a market value price after this season. The Hornets should be just as able to compete for Lin's services as the next team, given that everyone has cap space this summer.

And he gets to decide if he wants to make a long term commitment and stay in Charlotte after this season, depending on how he meshes with the players and whether he likes his role, coach, minutes, direction of the team, Charlotte lifestyle, etc.

The team gets to decide if he works well with what they want going ahead, and whether they see him as a long term piece and want him to come back or not.

I don't expect the 2nd year player option for $2M (virtually vet min) to be exercised unless there's a serious injury.


note to myself not to always trust BK-ref's payroll section.


For payroll stuff, I like to use Spotrac. They not only color code the various options and cap hits, but they also differentiate between cap hit and actual base salary payout in the rare instances where the two differ. Along with transaction histories of the deals signed.

Hornets: http://www.spotrac.com/nba/charlotte-hornets/yearly/cap/
Lin: http://www.spotrac.com/nba/charlotte-hornets/jeremy-lin/


Another good spot and quick/accurate updated site for salary is this one:

http://www.basketballinsiders.com/nba-team-salaries-at-a-glance/

This site is maintained by Eric Pincs, he updates that site pretty frequently as soon as he confirmed each individual player's salary as well as their terms, so his number is pretty accurate and upto date, especially during off season. And he is a pretty good CBA expert, worth to follow on tweeter.
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Re: Super Lintendo: The Jeremy Lin Thread 

Post#1328 » by Braggins » Sun Oct 4, 2015 8:09 pm

We have to have some of the best value contracts in the league. Kemba at 12 mil a year is good. MKG at 13 mil a year is really good as long as he stays healthy. Lamb at 7.25/hour or whatever is insane value. Hawes contract is solid value. Most of the rest of our payroll is rookie scale contracts for guys that are kind of under the radar and won't take a ton to resign.
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Re: Super Lintendo: The Jeremy Lin Thread 

Post#1329 » by TTNN » Sun Oct 4, 2015 8:20 pm

Lorenzomax7 wrote:Lin actually only had ONE turnover tonite but they counted twice. There is one happened in the 7:14, 2nd Q mark. Hawes got a bounce pass from Lin and immediately swang it to P. Hairston but his teammate failed to follow up the passing lane and the ball was stolen by Marble. It counted as a turnover from Lin by the stat-man thou it should be Hawes'.


come on, its only pre-season.

One thing I like is that Zeller looks like trying to be on the same page with Lin, and drives hard following Lin's drive, and making himself available when Lin pass, that behind the back pass was great since Zeller located himself nicely.

Also with Frank, AI, whenever the opponent big got distracted and following Lin, Lin could easily pass it over to them, all of them could finish nicely. Frank was hesitated at the beginning, but later on, that 3 pointer looks great.

Very encouraging first game. And I like our bigs seems trying to play together and in sync with our playmakers. So nice to see.
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Re: Super Lintendo: The Jeremy Lin Thread 

Post#1330 » by anthoang » Mon Oct 5, 2015 12:26 am

2 preseason games on the road and 2 victories. I know its only preseason, but I like how the offense is flowing and how Lin is contributing to that offensive style. If Hornets starts out 10-0, Linsanity II will begin.
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Re: Super Lintendo: The Jeremy Lin Thread 

Post#1331 » by Liver_Pooty » Mon Oct 5, 2015 12:29 am

anthoang wrote:2 preseason games on the road and 2 victories. I know its only preseason, but I like how the offense is flowing and how Lin is contributing to that offensive style. If Hornets starts out 10-0, Linsanity II will begin.


Lol well unless Lebron James becomes a Hornet tomorrow morning we won't have to worry about that.
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Re: Super Lintendo: The Jeremy Lin Thread 

Post#1332 » by gafun » Mon Oct 5, 2015 12:49 am

Very good starts.


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Re: Super Lintendo: The Jeremy Lin Thread 

Post#1333 » by blueice » Mon Oct 5, 2015 2:07 am

It's only pre-season, but a win is still better than a loss. It means we are on the right track.
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Re: Super Lintendo: The Jeremy Lin Thread 

Post#1334 » by UNCNYC » Mon Oct 5, 2015 2:50 am

Braggins wrote:We have to have some of the best value contracts in the league. Kemba at 12 mil a year is good. MKG at 13 mil a year is really good as long as he stays healthy. Lamb at 7.25/hour or whatever is insane value. Hawes contract is solid value. Most of the rest of our payroll is rookie scale contracts for guys that are kind of under the radar and won't take a ton to resign.


I think Kemba is overpaid by 5 mill per and I think mkg is overpaid by 7 mill per. I think both players are actually worth the qualifying offer or a lil more.
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Re: Super Lintendo: The Jeremy Lin Thread 

Post#1335 » by fatlever » Mon Oct 5, 2015 2:57 am

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Post#1336 » by HornetJail » Mon Oct 5, 2015 2:57 am

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Post#1337 » by Based Mike » Mon Oct 5, 2015 3:10 am

Lin looked great yesterday, average tonight, not a big deal in any case, it happens, Green was really geared in on him and he kind of deferred to Roberts who was hot, which was smart and the sign of a team player.

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Re: Super Lintendo: The Jeremy Lin Thread 

Post#1338 » by Little General » Mon Oct 5, 2015 3:39 am

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Re: Super Lintendo: The Jeremy Lin Thread 

Post#1339 » by Braggins » Mon Oct 5, 2015 3:44 am

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Post#1340 » by UNCNYC » Mon Oct 5, 2015 4:25 am

fatlever wrote:Never change UNCNYC, never change.



Lovin those Jay Z lyrics lol. NEVA CHANGE lol
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