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Re: Super Lintendo: The Jeremy Lin Thread 

Post#1621 » by HornetJail » Tue Oct 20, 2015 11:08 am

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MotorKeepsGoing wrote:probably better because that means less taj and less noah protecting the rim and more gasol not protecting the rim


Ok this is a common misconception about Pau Gasol that i really dislike. He's a VERY underrated defender and if he were as piss poor at defense as people claim he was then the Lakers wouldn't have won any championships as their main big guy. People like to credit Bynum for being the only real big man in the middle defensively, but PhilJax would end the vast majority of games with a Pau Gasol/Lamar Odom front court cuz Gasol WAS NO SLOUCH ON DEFENSE. He intelligently uses his length and size to do alot and gets a decent number of blocks too. He got punked bad by the Celtics in 08 and was rightfully lambasted as soft on D but after that he manned the **** up and was instrumental to the Lakers revived glory post Shaq.

Now is he as good on defense as Taj or Prime Noah... hell naw, but he's better than the currently gimpy Joakim Noah AND he can punish teams with his offensive game both inside and outside the paint. Something Noah can't ever do on his best days of his career. Gasol woulda made a big difference on defense in this game as Portis was a non-factor inside defensively.

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Re: Super Lintendo: The Jeremy Lin Thread 

Post#1622 » by 13th Man » Tue Oct 20, 2015 1:33 pm

Watching the game last night, anyone noticing the new narrative about Lin amongst broadcasters is that Lin's proven to be a good backup or serviceable pg? It's like he's been a garbage player all along and now he's finally good enough to play backup.

This is one of the reasons why Lin fans are so fanatic, to be a part of his journey to prove the naysayers wrong. Lin fans know truth and it's satisfying to watch him getting to play with confidence and not get brought down by the coaches.

Also a reason why I've been rooting for a player like Jarryd Hayne as well, the Niners just need to give him some carries!
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Re: Super Lintendo: The Jeremy Lin Thread 

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Re: Super Lintendo: The Jeremy Lin Thread 

Post#1624 » by HornetJail » Tue Oct 20, 2015 4:03 pm

13th Man wrote:Watching the game last night, anyone noticing the new narrative about Lin amongst broadcasters is that Lin's proven to be a good backup or serviceable pg? It's like he's been a garbage player all along and now he's finally good enough to play backup.

This is one of the reasons why Lin fans are so fanatic, to be a part of his journey to prove the naysayers wrong. Lin fans know truth and it's satisfying to watch him getting to play with confidence and not get brought down by the coaches.

Also a reason why I've been rooting for a player like Jarryd Hayne as well, the Niners just need to give him some carries!

After Linsanity, I don't think I've ever seen/heard someone on TV say that Lin wasn't serviceable in that role. A lot will tell you that he's not a full-time starting caliber PG, which I mostly agree with. I think the general consensus from everyone (not including idiots posting youtube comments) is that Lin will be at the very least, a dependable backup.
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Re: Super Lintendo: The Jeremy Lin Thread 

Post#1625 » by ChokeFasncists » Tue Oct 20, 2015 4:10 pm

MotorKeepsGoing wrote: A lot will tell you that he's not a full-time starting caliber PG, which I mostly agree with.

If he plays well consistently, tones down on his TOs and fights thru screens better, he will be one.
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Post#1626 » by spaceballer » Tue Oct 20, 2015 4:37 pm

Here's an account from a fan who went to the game. I find his recount of the interactions between Lin and Kemba, and the difference in body language with Lin under Cliff's coaching to be interesting.

https://jlinforum.wordpress.com/2015/10/20/jeremy-lins-hornets-vs-bulls-live-game-recap/
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Re: Super Lintendo: The Jeremy Lin Thread 

Post#1627 » by fatlever » Tue Oct 20, 2015 4:44 pm

13th Man wrote:Watching the game last night, anyone noticing the new narrative about Lin amongst broadcasters is that Lin's proven to be a good backup or serviceable pg? It's like he's been a garbage player all along and now he's finally good enough to play backup.

This is one of the reasons why Lin fans are so fanatic, to be a part of his journey to prove the naysayers wrong. Lin fans know truth and it's satisfying to watch him getting to play with confidence and not get brought down by the coaches.

Also a reason why I've been rooting for a player like Jarryd Hayne as well, the Niners just need to give him some carries!


They kept saying "He's not a bad player". It was rather ridiculous. Its like they were trying to convince people. Lin should have never been perceived as a bad player, by anyone, these last few years. Even at his lowest, he was still a very solid backup PG.
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Re: Super Lintendo: The Jeremy Lin Thread 

Post#1628 » by fatlever » Tue Oct 20, 2015 4:51 pm

spaceballer wrote:Here's an account from a fan who went to the game. I find his recount of the interactions between Lin and Kemba, and the difference in body language with Lin under Cliff's coaching to be interesting.

https://jlinforum.wordpress.com/2015/10/20/jeremy-lins-hornets-vs-bulls-live-game-recap/


Thanks for posting that. It was a good recap.

Lin is not treated like an overrated Asian basketball player with the Hornets. He is treated like any basketball player in the NBA. And THAT, my friends, is finally nice to see after these last three years.


I think this is how most of us old school Hornets fans feel about Lin.
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Re: Super Lintendo: The Jeremy Lin Thread 

Post#1629 » by blueice » Tue Oct 20, 2015 4:52 pm

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cw3k wrote:Please stop with this racial profile. Lin is a god damn American. There is no such nationality as "Taiwanese"


I agree that Lin is American, but to say that there's no such nationality as "Taiwanese", we are bringing politics in, and I believe a lot of Taiwanse people are willing to discuss about this with you. You don't want to go there.


There's no question that there is a Taiwanese nationality. Taiwan is a nation, therefore people who are citizens of that nation are Taiwanese by nationality. The question is if there is a Taiwanese ethnicity. But that's totally off on a tangent, let's get back to basketball.


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Post#1630 » by anthoang » Tue Oct 20, 2015 5:32 pm

spaceballer wrote:Here's an account from a fan who went to the game. I find his recount of the interactions between Lin and Kemba, and the difference in body language with Lin under Cliff's coaching to be interesting.

https://jlinforum.wordpress.com/2015/10/20/jeremy-lins-hornets-vs-bulls-live-game-recap/


From the TV broadcast of the game i was watching... I did see an asian guy in the crowd. That must have been the guy who wrote this post.
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Re: Super Lintendo: The Jeremy Lin Thread 

Post#1631 » by MasterIchiro » Tue Oct 20, 2015 5:40 pm

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Post#1632 » by spaceballer » Tue Oct 20, 2015 6:07 pm

The distraction value of Lin's hair on the court :lol:

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Re: Super Lintendo: The Jeremy Lin Thread 

Post#1633 » by fatlever » Tue Oct 20, 2015 8:12 pm

anthoang wrote:
spaceballer wrote:Here's an account from a fan who went to the game. I find his recount of the interactions between Lin and Kemba, and the difference in body language with Lin under Cliff's coaching to be interesting.

https://jlinforum.wordpress.com/2015/10/20/jeremy-lins-hornets-vs-bulls-live-game-recap/


From the TV broadcast of the game i was watching... I did see an asian guy in the crowd. That must have been the guy who wrote this post.


Is that sarcasm or a serious statement?
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Re: Super Lintendo: The Jeremy Lin Thread 

Post#1634 » by anthoang » Tue Oct 20, 2015 9:17 pm

fatlever wrote:
anthoang wrote:
spaceballer wrote:Here's an account from a fan who went to the game. I find his recount of the interactions between Lin and Kemba, and the difference in body language with Lin under Cliff's coaching to be interesting.

https://jlinforum.wordpress.com/2015/10/20/jeremy-lins-hornets-vs-bulls-live-game-recap/


From the TV broadcast of the game i was watching... I did see an asian guy in the crowd. That must have been the guy who wrote this post.


Is that sarcasm or a serious statement?


Serious... I'm always on the lookout for rich asians who sits courtside to watch Lin.

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Re: Super Lintendo: The Jeremy Lin Thread 

Post#1635 » by Roy Tarpley » Tue Oct 20, 2015 9:44 pm

fatlever wrote:
13th Man wrote:Watching the game last night, anyone noticing the new narrative about Lin amongst broadcasters is that Lin's proven to be a good backup or serviceable pg? It's like he's been a garbage player all along and now he's finally good enough to play backup.

This is one of the reasons why Lin fans are so fanatic, to be a part of his journey to prove the naysayers wrong. Lin fans know truth and it's satisfying to watch him getting to play with confidence and not get brought down by the coaches.

Also a reason why I've been rooting for a player like Jarryd Hayne as well, the Niners just need to give him some carries!


They kept saying "He's not a bad player". It was rather ridiculous. Its like they were trying to convince people. Lin should have never been perceived as a bad player, by anyone, these last few years. Even at his lowest, he was still a very solid backup PG.


I remember a broadcaster, maybe in the Knicks game, saying that Lin is "a good not great" PG. It sounds like he was trying to praise Lin but somehow was trying to qualify it so that he doesn't come off as sounding like a homer or Lin fan.
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Re: Super Lintendo: The Jeremy Lin Thread 

Post#1636 » by fatlever » Tue Oct 20, 2015 10:01 pm

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fatlever wrote:
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From the TV broadcast of the game i was watching... I did see an asian guy in the crowd. That must have been the guy who wrote this post.


Is that sarcasm or a serious statement?


Serious... I'm always on the lookout for rich asians who sits courtside to watch Lin.


Is that a pretty big leap to assume that the asian person you saw sitting courtside is the same person who wrote this blog? From the looks of the pictures in this blog, it appears he wasn't courtside, but that's beside the point. There is an asian guy who has been sitting courtside just to the left of the opponents bench for all Bobcats/Hornets game since 2004. He is definitely not there because of Lin. Also, there's plenty of asians at every Hornets game. I had season tickets from 2006-2014. Also, Charlotte is about 5% asian (per census). With a metro of 2.5 million, thats about 125,000 asians in the Charlotte area. Certainly its possible some of those asians were actually fans of the Hornets long before Lin signed. So maybe, just maybe, you might see some asians in the crowd at a Hornets game this year who are actually long-time fans of the Hornets and not just there for Lin.
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Re: Super Lintendo: The Jeremy Lin Thread 

Post#1637 » by tonman » Wed Oct 21, 2015 3:50 am

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MotorKeepsGoing wrote: A lot will tell you that he's not a full-time starting caliber PG, which I mostly agree with.

If he plays well consistently, tones down on his TOs and fights thru screens better, he will be one.


this is the same stuff people use to make it seem like Lin is "inconsistent" or not good enough as a starter. How does one "tone" down turnovers? everyone is going to make a bad pass every once in a while but you don't get down on playmakers. because Harden scores a ton of points off a ton of shots, people forget he turns the ball over 4 times a game. Westbrook 4.4. Rose 3.2. who would you rather have, Lin attacking the basket or Lin making the safe pass?

fighting through screens is another boring response. screens require team defense. most players have trouble fighting through screens. that's why teams set them.

as for consistency, it's harder to be consistent in play if your playing time is inconsistent. if you're a bench player, you have a 3-4 minute stretch where you can't hit anything well that's a large portion of your playing time. you can't "play" through your slumps. game to game you might see variations and Lin is prone to some bad games but looking at his overall stats, he is pretty consistent season to season. that's why I want to see Lin play "starter" minutes and play his game. if he is consistent, his stats will show it. last season, three Hornets shot 15-16 fga per game. if Lin maintains his PPS, that's over 19 ppg. it's not like he's just played other teams' bench players. He's started almost 60% of games played.
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Re: Super Lintendo: The Jeremy Lin Thread 

Post#1638 » by 13th Man » Wed Oct 21, 2015 4:51 am

Imo, Lin is good enough to start right now on a few teams but he still has to prove it with stats backing this up and this a great place for him to do that (not by starting but by overall contributions).

Ftr, not hoping for him to supersede Kemba or anything like that, I like Kemba Walker and hope that he has a great year. As long as Lin gets around 30 mins, I think he should put up some respectable numbers and help make the team better.
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Post#1639 » by anthoang » Wed Oct 21, 2015 6:06 am

ESPN released their 2015-16 NBA player rankings. ESPN thinks Lin is worse than Patrick Beverly, Jordan Clarkson because Lin had to back up those guys. Surprisingly, ESPN also ranks Lin below former Hornet Noah Vonleh -- that's just ridiculous.
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Re: Super Lintendo: The Jeremy Lin Thread 

Post#1640 » by Lorenzomax7 » Wed Oct 21, 2015 12:20 pm

anthoang wrote:ESPN released their 2015-16 NBA player rankings. ESPN thinks Lin is worse than Patrick Beverly, Jordan Clarkson because Lin had to back up those guys. Surprisingly, ESPN also ranks Lin below former Hornet Noah Vonleh -- that's just ridiculous.

Lin is stupidly underrated. There're still many crowns think that JLin is "good" because of his background and history, but not his skills.
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