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Post#1181 » by Oj_mayo » Sun Nov 8, 2015 3:40 am

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I am here to express my disappoint as it pertains to the skill sets of Mr. Wiggins. I made an excellent comparison last season between Mr. Wiggins and Mr. Mayo. I pointed out that both men were exceptional athletes at the college level, however, both men will amount to mediocrity at the end of their NBA careers.

As a point of reference, both individuals were drafted by the sorry administrative team that Minnesota has assembled.


LOL at comparing Wiggins and Mayo as athletes.


We do not measure abilities based off of subjective variables as your message would imply regarding the definition of an athlete. In the world of science, we measure on the observable. Unfortunately, "potential" does not make the cut for observable variables, Mr. Zeitgeister.

My method of comparison is not perfect, but it allows for a comparison based off of observable factors. When I compare the rookie seasons of Mr. Wiggins and Mr. Mayo, I find that these two individuals share similar stats. Mr. Wiggins performed worse on all major categories with the exception of blocks and rebounds. Admittedly, where my comparison is subject to criticism is the difference in age. Nevertheless, we are not here to be the judge of potential. Judging on potential is like playing a game of charades.
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Post#1182 » by Klomp » Sun Nov 8, 2015 3:45 am

That's not comparing them as athletes, which you specifically said in the original post.
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Re: The Andrew Wiggins Thread 

Post#1183 » by Zeitgeister » Sun Nov 8, 2015 3:46 am

Oj_mayo wrote:
Zeitgeister wrote:
Oj_mayo wrote:To whom it may concern:

I am here to express my disappoint as it pertains to the skill sets of Mr. Wiggins. I made an excellent comparison last season between Mr. Wiggins and Mr. Mayo. I pointed out that both men were exceptional athletes at the college level, however, both men will amount to mediocrity at the end of their NBA careers.

As a point of reference, both individuals were drafted by the sorry administrative team that Minnesota has assembled.


LOL at comparing Wiggins and Mayo as athletes.


We do not measure abilities based off of subjective variables as your message would imply regarding the definition of an athlete. In the world of science, we measure on the observable. Unfortunately, "potential" does not make the cut for observable variables, Mr. Zeitgeister.

My method of comparison is not perfect, but it allows for a comparison based off of observable factors. When I compare the rookie seasons of Mr. Wiggins and Mr. Mayo, I find that these two individuals share similar stats. Mr. Wiggins performed worse on all major categories with the exception of blocks and rebounds. Admittedly, where my comparison is subject to criticism is the difference in age. Nevertheless, we are not here to be the judge of potential. Judging on potential is like playing a game of charades.


Andrew Wiggins can be observed to be a much better athlete with much better athletic tools than Ovinton J'Anthony Mayo.
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Re: The Andrew Wiggins Thread 

Post#1184 » by Oj_mayo » Sun Nov 8, 2015 3:53 am

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LOL at comparing Wiggins and Mayo as athletes.


We do not measure abilities based off of subjective variables as your message would imply regarding the definition of an athlete. In the world of science, we measure on the observable. Unfortunately, "potential" does not make the cut for observable variables, Mr. Zeitgeister.

My method of comparison is not perfect, but it allows for a comparison based off of observable factors. When I compare the rookie seasons of Mr. Wiggins and Mr. Mayo, I find that these two individuals share similar stats. Mr. Wiggins performed worse on all major categories with the exception of blocks and rebounds. Admittedly, where my comparison is subject to criticism is the difference in age. Nevertheless, we are not here to be the judge of potential. Judging on potential is like playing a game of charades.


Andrew Wiggins can be observed to be a much better athlete with much better athletic tools than Ovinton J'Anthony Mayo.


Could you please define athlete? Then shortly after, could you list what goes into measuring what makes a great athlete? For the sake of this discussion, we will keep height constant.
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Re: The Andrew Wiggins Thread 

Post#1185 » by Oj_mayo » Sun Nov 8, 2015 4:05 am

Klomp wrote:That's not comparing them as athletes, which you specifically said in the original post.


I never distinguished them as being different athletes in my original post. I stated that both were "exceptional athletes." That is a fair statement to make on the grounds that they are physical gifted in the game of basketball.
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Post#1187 » by Mattya » Sun Nov 8, 2015 5:26 am

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Post#1188 » by Klomp » Sun Nov 8, 2015 5:54 am

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Post#1189 » by Saltine » Sun Nov 8, 2015 6:32 am

:D
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Re: The Andrew Wiggins Thread 

Post#1190 » by criteriado » Sun Nov 8, 2015 1:01 pm

Really needs to stop with the long 2 madness. The stepback for the long two is absolutely awful. Don't know who taught him that, but that needs to stop right now.
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Post#1191 » by vagelis » Sun Nov 8, 2015 2:51 pm

Wiggins has changed his game this year. The previous year he was a little raw in his game and he tried to play with some post moves like Jordan did in his latest years.
But this year Wiggins plays with face to the basket and tries to penetrate and go to the basket directly.
He has the explosiveness and he has improved his dribble.
This change maybe need some time to get perfect, but it was necessary.
Wiggins has no ceiling. Only Jordan had this dominating combination of athletic tools(explosiveness,speed,vertical jump) and body balance.
I think and i hope that the next year he will be the best player in the league.

The only thing that Timberwolves need to do is to trade Kevin Martin and make space for Wiggins to become the leader of this team.
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Re: The Andrew Wiggins Thread 

Post#1192 » by Merc_Porto » Sun Nov 8, 2015 3:15 pm

Where is the alley-oop of Ricky to Wiggy ? :-?

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Post#1193 » by Killboard » Sun Nov 8, 2015 4:15 pm

I really liked some set plays called for wiggins in the last minutes against chicago.

Ricky in the top of 3pt line, like a iso for him, then one big and one wing on each side of the floor. Bjelly and towns spread the floor perfectly

Then the big screens wiggins man on the corner and wiggins cut to the basket. Really simple, but he takes the defense on the move and he is unstoppable once he is flying.
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Re: The Andrew Wiggins Thread 

Post#1194 » by Wolf_Cry » Sun Nov 8, 2015 7:44 pm

Oj_mayo wrote:
Zeitgeister wrote:
Oj_mayo wrote:To whom it may concern:

I am here to express my disappoint as it pertains to the skill sets of Mr. Wiggins. I made an excellent comparison last season between Mr. Wiggins and Mr. Mayo. I pointed out that both men were exceptional athletes at the college level, however, both men will amount to mediocrity at the end of their NBA careers.

As a point of reference, both individuals were drafted by the sorry administrative team that Minnesota has assembled.


LOL at comparing Wiggins and Mayo as athletes.


We do not measure abilities based off of subjective variables as your message would imply regarding the definition of an athlete. In the world of science, we measure on the observable. Unfortunately, "potential" does not make the cut for observable variables, Mr. Zeitgeister.

My method of comparison is not perfect, but it allows for a comparison based off of observable factors. When I compare the rookie seasons of Mr. Wiggins and Mr. Mayo, I find that these two individuals share similar stats. Mr. Wiggins performed worse on all major categories with the exception of blocks and rebounds. Admittedly, where my comparison is subject to criticism is the difference in age. Nevertheless, we are not here to be the judge of potential. Judging on potential is like playing a game of charades.


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Re: The Andrew Wiggins Thread 

Post#1195 » by Note30 » Tue Nov 10, 2015 3:17 am

Andrew could easily be as good as semi prime Kobe by mid year
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Post#1196 » by Rubio Inc » Tue Nov 10, 2015 3:24 am

Give this man a MVP chant tomorrow against the Hornets :bowdown:
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Re: The Andrew Wiggins Thread 

Post#1197 » by Takingbaconback » Tue Nov 10, 2015 3:39 am

This guy is a generational talent, definitely has a chance to be one of the best players of all time
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Re: The Andrew Wiggins Thread 

Post#1198 » by criteriado » Tue Nov 10, 2015 3:42 am

It was bound to happen. I'm happy, tho. His defense has improved.
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Re: The Andrew Wiggins Thread 

Post#1199 » by AttackTheRack » Tue Nov 10, 2015 4:26 am

He and Towns have a chance to be 2 of the best players in the entire league. Two way players. A wing and a big man. Like KD and Durant. Only better.
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Post#1200 » by Devilzsidewalk » Tue Nov 10, 2015 4:29 am

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