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Is Mario a walking "turnover" waiting to happen?

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Re: Is Mario a walking 

Post#41 » by ezzzp » Mon Nov 9, 2015 5:52 pm

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Post#42 » by Rosque » Mon Nov 9, 2015 6:56 pm

Optimus_Steel wrote:
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Devin 1L wrote:Rookie turnovers don't really concern me. I just want to see defensive commitment and playing at 100%. The other stuff will come.


Is he improving on defense every game? I am not worrying about his offense, I wanna know how his defense is doing...

/don't know because I live in Europe and can't watch most games


He played tremendous defense against Tor. Played good defense yesterday. So he is certaintly capable but he is rookie in a new country and league, he is going to be up and down all year. Looks like he got his confidence back last 2 games.


Thanks. That's what I wanted to hear :)
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Re: Is Mario a walking 

Post#43 » by drsd » Mon Nov 9, 2015 7:22 pm

Ducklett wrote:Hezonja: 1.14 (15.3 mpg)


He has now more than doubled his PER !!!

(PER = 3.14)


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Re: Is Mario a walking 

Post#44 » by Rosque » Mon Nov 9, 2015 8:03 pm

drsd wrote:
Ducklett wrote:Hezonja: 1.14 (15.3 mpg)


He has now more than doubled his PER !!!

(PER = 3.14)


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False. His PER is infinite.

I'll walk myself out with bad math jokes....DON'T YELL OKAYYYY????
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Re: Is Mario a walking 

Post#45 » by Duradero » Mon Nov 9, 2015 10:13 pm

We need to simplify his offensive role IMO. Let him spread the floor with set shots and minimize putting the ball on the floor for now. I would say 3 and D while he learns NBA caliber defense.
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Re: Is Mario a walking 

Post#46 » by ezzzp » Mon Nov 9, 2015 10:50 pm

Duradero wrote:We need to simplify his offensive role IMO. Let him spread the floor with set shots and minimize putting the ball on the floor for now. I would say 3 and D while he learns NBA caliber defense.


that's not what Skiles thinks...listen to his most recent interview on the magic website
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Re: Is Mario a walking 

Post#47 » by titantron91 » Sat Nov 14, 2015 3:40 am

Well Fournier's stepping up and this will be bad for Mario if half of the season passes with little improvement from him. All the hype will be crushed.
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Re: Is Mario a walking 

Post#48 » by Rosque » Sat Nov 14, 2015 4:46 pm

titantron91 wrote:Well Fournier's stepping up and this will be bad for Mario if half of the season passes with little improvement from him. All the hype will be crushed.


Because 10-ish games determine how good of a player will become, right?

Rookie season by
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Kobe


7.6/1.9/1.3 with 1.4 turnovers. 41.7/37.5/81.9 in 15 minutes per game

Rookie season by
Spoiler:
Dirk


8.2/3.4/1.0 with 1.6 turnovers. 40.5/20.6/77.3 in 20 minutes per game

Also Rondo, Pippen, (Gary) Payton, Stockton...list just goes on and on
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Re: Is Mario a walking 

Post#49 » by tooler » Sat Nov 14, 2015 5:04 pm

Still not worried about him in the slightest.

I just wish he would go on a hot streak or get some cool dunks. I need some excitement from this team.
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Re: Is Mario a walking 

Post#50 » by drsd » Sat Nov 14, 2015 5:23 pm

tooler wrote:Still not worried about him in the slightest.


Long term, do you see Hezojna and Founier on this Magic's roster?


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Re: Is Mario a walking 

Post#51 » by MrTwister » Sat Nov 14, 2015 5:27 pm

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Re: Is Mario a walking 

Post#52 » by Last Guardian » Sat Nov 14, 2015 6:45 pm

He looks like a rookie. A few times he looks like he knows what he is doing, other times he sucks bad.
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Re: Is Mario a walking 

Post#53 » by JF5 » Sat Nov 14, 2015 7:18 pm

Last Guardian wrote:He looks like a rookie. A few times he looks like he knows what he is doing, other times he sucks bad.


He's a rookie? I thought he was entering his 4th year by the way this board has reacted to his inconsistent/poor play.
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Re: Is Mario a walking 

Post#54 » by MagicManDC » Sat Nov 14, 2015 7:47 pm

I'm a little surprised his handle isn't a little better.
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Re: Is Mario a walking 

Post#55 » by RookieStar » Sat Nov 14, 2015 9:03 pm

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Last Guardian wrote:He looks like a rookie. A few times he looks like he knows what he is doing, other times he sucks bad.


He's a rookie? I thought he was entering his 4th year by the way this board has reacted to his inconsistent/poor play.


LOL.. I think it's cuz Mario wanted to be known as the international version of Kobe. You set yourself up that high, you bet that everyone will have a higher expectation of you.
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Re: Is Mario a walking "turnover" waiting to happen? 

Post#56 » by davey_wavy » Sat Nov 14, 2015 9:44 pm

The 5th pick (especially a SG) should be able to handle the ball consistently. Enough with this "he's a rookie" ****
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Re: Is Mario a walking 

Post#57 » by ezzzp » Sun Nov 15, 2015 7:02 pm

davey_wavy wrote:The 5th pick (especially a SG) should be able to handle the ball consistently. Enough with this "he's a rookie" ****


Really? Here are a couple of metrics for the rookie years of recent 5th picks drafted...9 games in, there is nothing alarming

MPG / USG % / Turn Over % / Assist to Turnover Ratio / Turn Over Ratio

2015 Mario Hezonja
14.9/ 18.7 / 22.2 /.44 /20.2

2014 Dante Exum
22.2 / 14.1 / 21.5 / 1.68 / 15.8

2013 Alex Len
8.6 / 14.0 / 22.1 / .15 / 21.4

2012 Thomas Robinson
15.1 / 19.0 / 19.3 / .52 / 17.5

2011 Jonas Valanciunas
23.9 / 17.1 / 17.4 / .48 / 16.0

2010 Demarcus Cousins
28.5 / 27.2 / 18.5 / .76 / 16.2

2009 Ricky Rubio
34.2 / 18.5 / 22.2 / 2.56 / 14.2
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