DetroitSho wrote:mattao313 wrote:DetroitSho wrote:I'd go $13 million per. And what's with the "if RJ and BJ can play together" uncertainty? Why wouldn't these two be able to play together?
Probably cause of their defensive deficiency and both are ball dominate players.
Does anyone not realize that Jackson played majority of his career sharing the court with Westbrook and actually did well off the ball? Also does anyone not remember a backcourt of Jennings and Ellis actually led their team to the playoffs? The whole ball dominant thing doesn’t fly. Jackson is only ball dominant when they're running the pnr constantly. Then there's other times when the starters go against doing the pnr exclusively and Jackson gives the ball up much earlier in the offensive set. Jennings doesn't really dominate the ball. He tries to find shooters very early in the offense.
Each guy is more than passable at hitting shots off the kickout, so if one PG is attacking and the other ends up with a shot off ball movement, that ball dominant bs goes out the window. Either guy can knock em down. This ain't exactly Stuckey/Iverson where both guys are pretty useless off the ball.
And the concern defensively goes out the window when you're up against another 2 pg lineup. Or you're up against a unit with a SG that really doesn't have a physical advantage over RJ (there's literally no reason you can't use it against Conley/Allen for example). Hell when Meeks comes back we're ready to pair Jennings/Meeks off the bench. Not sure how that tandem is better defensively than Jackson/Jennings.
I agree, but does Stan? That is the question.
“We’re already in the thought process of things we can run playing him and Reggie together at times,” Van Gundy said. “There’s a lot of teams that go small. We just want to be ready if we do and try to build in some stuff that fits the two of them so we can get to multiple pick-and-rolls, and we’ll look at that.”
Although Van Gundy said the plan isn’t to play the two together for significant minutes, it just provides another offensive option to pursue. He pointed to the Atlanta Hawks, who utilize Dennis Schroder and Jeff Teague as a tandem to make other teams match up with their speed. The Miami Heat also use Goran Dragic and Dwyane Wade together.
“Having that second playmaker is a good thing. I don’t know when we’ll get to that, but it’s a good option to have,” Van Gundy said. “On the offensive end, it’s really good; it’s then whether you can get the job done on the defensive end. You’re giving up size; can you defend and rebound? Those are the questions.
“Anything that gives you more options and flexibility is good.”
http://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/nba/pistons/2016/01/06/van-gundy-plots-twist-lineup/78390314/It sounds to me like he isn't sold on it being a regular part of the rotation yet and needs to see it first. So until Stan is sold on it, I'm not sold on paying him that much just to be Reggie's backup. It doesn't matter if we think it can work, if he disagrees and rarely uses them together. If that is going to be the case, I might prefer that money going to someone that he will play more instead. Stan probably agrees. Jennings too (who may not be interested in such a limited role). This needs to play out more before determining dollar amounts, in my opinion.
For the record, I want to resign Jennings and use him like you are suggesting, and would be willing to pay what it costs for him in that role. But if Stan is only going to use him in a limited backup role most nights, then that's a different story.