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Re: 2015 

Post#521 » by treiz » Fri Jan 29, 2016 10:04 am

LOL, you're a fascinating person Mass. Never change :lol:

Foye was never part of the bet or the discussion before the bet, heck Roma wasn't even part of that discussion with the Juve-Inter game and yet you decided to bring Roma into it, besides I don't see anybody bitching besides you.

Just found it hilarious that you had to go to your usual all out defence mode with a series of posts just because somebody called you out on a claim you made which turns out to be false. It's like your ego is so fragile.

Yes, you are winning the bet. But there's still a long way to go, let's wait a few months :wink:
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Re: AW: 2015 

Post#522 » by Foye » Fri Jan 29, 2016 10:59 am

Haha so true treiz. All I said was Juve has monopoly in this league and Inter is not a top 2 team...but for some reason now I'm part of Roma vs. Inter bet lmao.

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Re: 2015 

Post#523 » by magik9113 » Fri Jan 29, 2016 2:53 pm

why you still sleeping on Napoli, though? Higuain is scoring at a rate the Serie A hasn't seen since prime Toni or Totti and they are solid all around. Even with idiot Benitez last year they destroyed the 2nd best BuLi team and are better this season
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Re: AW: RE: Re: 2015 

Post#524 » by Foye » Fri Jan 29, 2016 5:21 pm

magik9113 wrote:why you still sleeping on Napoli, though? Higuain is scoring at a rate the Serie A hasn't seen since prime Toni or Totti and they are solid all around. Even with idiot Benitez last year they destroyed the 2nd best BuLi team and are better this season


I'm not sleeping on them but they will once again be beaten by Juve like always in Serie A. If we are talking about 1-2 games they can be a real threat for Juve but typically not over a full season. At some point they'll drop points that Juve doesnt drop. Most likely Higuain will choke another few penalties when the late season pressure arrives again lmao.

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Re: 2015 

Post#525 » by treiz » Fri Jan 29, 2016 9:21 pm

Agree with Foye especially considering the run that Juve are going through right now, personally I would love it if Napoli won Serie A but that's looking really unlikely as each match passes
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Re: 2015 

Post#526 » by magik9113 » Fri Jan 29, 2016 10:41 pm

With each match that passes it becomes more likely that Juve drop points because sh*t happens every once in a while
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Re: 2015 

Post#527 » by DD12 » Sat Jan 30, 2016 4:18 am

treiz wrote:LOL, you're a fascinating person Mass. Never change :lol:

Foye was never part of the bet or the discussion before the bet, heck Roma wasn't even part of that discussion with the Juve-Inter game and yet you decided to bring Roma into it, besides I don't see anybody bitching besides you.

Just found it hilarious that you had to go to your usual all out defence mode with a series of posts just because somebody called you out on a claim you made which turns out to be false. It's like your ego is so fragile.

Yes, you are winning the bet. But there's still a long way to go, let's wait a few months :wink:


Who cares what Foye says really? I proved him wrong so many times, he lost bunch of bets against me. I take him as a little child trying to break into older brother's conversation all the time.

Inter lost the game against Juventus. Why did it make you guys so happy? I thought you guys support Roma. or you guys already gave up the best midfield in Serie A? :D

What is false again? I thought English was your native language. Inter would win the league unless Juve wins 10 games in a row. Juve just won 11 games in a row. What is false again? If Inter finishes second which is very possible, how is that false again?

I think sometimes you guys are so excited to prove me wrong and you guys don't even read what I said or what others claim in which I get that just like there are Messi haters, Jose haters, CR7 haters or Lebron haters ;)
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Re: 2015 

Post#528 » by LittleOzzy » Sat Jan 30, 2016 4:27 am

Hey Guys,

Lets stop with the personal insults and put downs. If it continues past this post I will unfortunately have to hand out warnings.
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Re: 2015 

Post#529 » by cgf » Sat Jan 30, 2016 4:40 am

It's all in good fun ozzy. None of us take what massi says seriously.
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Re: 2015 

Post#530 » by treiz » Sat Jan 30, 2016 8:10 am

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Who cares what Foye says really? I proved him wrong so many times, he lost bunch of bets against me. I take him as a little child trying to break into older brother's conversation all the time.

Inter lost the game against Juventus. Why did it make you guys so happy? I thought you guys support Roma. or you guys already gave up the best midfield in Serie A? :D

What is false again? I thought English was your native language. Inter would win the league unless Juve wins 10 games in a row. Juve just won 11 games in a row. What is false again? If Inter finishes second which is very possible, how is that false again?

I think sometimes you guys are so excited to prove me wrong and you guys don't even read what I said or what others claim in which I get that just like there are Messi haters, Jose haters, CR7 haters or Lebron haters ;)


Who cares? Apparently you with your series of posts responding to Foye.

Who was happy? There was nobody in the thread celebrating the victory apart from magik who's a Juve fan, I didn't see any Roma supporters like Doormatt commenting on the game, it was just Foye and a couple of other observers like Mezzy who like I said was never part of the Roma discussion or bet, the topic was clearly about Juve-Inter and you in your infinite wisdom decided to bring Roma into it, which was hilarious. Yes, the bet was me and Doormatt I believe, nobody else (just to clear things up).

Haven't given up yet, still waiting on Kondogbia though to become the 2nd best midfielder in Inter let alone Serie A :wink:

DD12 wrote:Inter Milan's midfield and strikers(i completely forgot jovetic last time) world class.


This quote is false and you know it, although it is a possibility Inter will finish second, and there is a high probability that Inter will finish above Roma, but we're both equally on a terrible set of games recently and besides the season isn't finished yet so hold your horses.

Well, it's not that people get excited to prove you wrong I mean at this point it's happened so many times it's become a bit tedious that a lot of people let it slide more often now than they use to.
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Re: 2015 

Post#531 » by J-Mezzy » Sat Jan 30, 2016 11:14 am

One would think you guys would know by now that

a) Massimo is never wrong
b) Massimo never loses
c) When Massimo is wrong, he's actually right
d) When Massimo loses, he actually wins

At least in his head, but the point stands lol
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Re: 2015 

Post#532 » by DD12 » Sat Jan 30, 2016 2:33 pm

LittleOzzy wrote:Hey Guys,

Lets stop with the personal insults and put downs. If it continues past this post I will unfortunately have to hand out warnings.


Don't worry Ozzy. People are used to lose against me. It is one of the usual things happening at the moment :) No hard feelings towards each other.
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Re: 2015 

Post#533 » by DD12 » Sat Jan 30, 2016 2:41 pm

treiz wrote:Who cares? Apparently you with your series of posts responding to Foye.

Who was happy? There was nobody in the thread celebrating the victory apart from magik who's a Juve fan, I didn't see any Roma supporters like Doormatt commenting on the game, it was just Foye and a couple of other observers like Mezzy who like I said was never part of the Roma discussion or bet, the topic was clearly about Juve-Inter and you in your infinite wisdom decided to bring Roma into it, which was hilarious. Yes, the bet was me and Doormatt I believe, nobody else (just to clear things up).

Haven't given up yet, still waiting on Kondogbia though to become the 2nd best midfielder in Inter let alone Serie A :wink:

This quote is false and you know it, although it is a possibility Inter will finish second, and there is a high probability that Inter will finish above Roma, but we're both equally on a terrible set of games recently and besides the season isn't finished yet so hold your horses.

Well, it's not that people get excited to prove you wrong I mean at this point it's happened so many times it's become a bit tedious that a lot of people let it slide more often now than they use to.


Reading is very simple. If you go a page or two, you'll see who was happy :) not that I care but you completely missed it, I think.

Good. Kondogbia will do just fine. Already proven that he is much better than likes of injury pronr De Rossi who can't play 5 matches in a row or aka Ninja who pays more atrention to his hair style than the way he plays. It is unfortunate that there were some people on here who thought roma's midfield > Inter's midfield. Very sad :(

The quote is not false. Mancini is an incompetent coach that's why Inter is having tough time and players can't show their potential. With a normal skilled coach, this team would play much better.

It's happened so many times? I took at least 10 bets on this forum against people for fun. Never lost a single of them: drinking too much and forgetting the facts, maybe? :)
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Re: 2015 

Post#534 » by DD12 » Sat Jan 30, 2016 2:42 pm

J-Mezzy wrote:One would think you guys would know by now that

a) Massimo is never wrong
b) Massimo never loses
c) When Massimo is wrong, he's actually right
d) When Massimo loses, he actually wins

At least in his head, but the point stands lol


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Re: 2015 

Post#535 » by treiz » Sat Jan 30, 2016 8:42 pm

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Reading is very simple. If you go a page or two, you'll see who was happy :) not that I care but you completely missed it, I think.

Good. Kondogbia will do just fine. Already proven that he is much better than likes of injury pronr De Rossi who can't play 5 matches in a row or aka Ninja who pays more atrention to his hair style than the way he plays. It is unfortunate that there were some people on here who thought roma's midfield > Inter's midfield. Very sad :(

The quote is not false. Mancini is an incompetent coach that's why Inter is having tough time and players can't show their potential. With a normal skilled coach, this team would play much better.

It's happened so many times? I took at least 10 bets on this forum against people for fun. Never lost a single of them: drinking too much and forgetting the facts, maybe? :)


So who? Foye? Mezzy? Det? Turco? Please quote them for me to see because whoever it is, they were never part of the Roma bet.

Kondogbia has proven nothing, all he's proven is that he can't even get on the same pitch as Medel and Guarin who just got shipped off to China, don't think that proves he's a better player compared to established midfielders like De Rossi/Ninja/Pjanic who would 100% walk into Inter's midfield.

It is false, who out of that group of players is world class? I need a name that would at least get into Juve's team then we can agree on something (I think that's a decent barometer if a player is world class). That combination of midfield/attack would get destroyed in CL game (except if they came up against Chelsea :lol: ) by any of the top team, I don't think that would qualify as WC, I mean the Juve game proved it :D

So we're gonna ignore your quotes about Yilmaz? Muslera? Gala when they were in the same group as Arsenal and Dortmund? Kondogbia? Germany? Ozil? They were pretty bad claims to be fair, you can at least admit that :D

J-Mezzy wrote:One would think you guys would know by now that

a) Massimo is never wrong
b) Massimo never loses
c) When Massimo is wrong, he's actually right
d) When Massimo loses, he actually wins

At least in his head, but the point stands lol


I have faith that Mass can actually say he's wrong when he's actually wrong. Besides nothing gets the brain going like a discussion with him :D
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Re: 2015 

Post#536 » by Baphomet » Sat Jan 30, 2016 10:26 pm

treiz wrote:So we're gonna ignore your quotes about Yilmaz? Muslera? Gala when they were in the same group as Arsenal and Dortmund? Kondogbia? Germany? Ozil? They were pretty bad claims to be fair, you can at least admit that :D


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DD12 wrote:Mario Gomez who was going to destroy Serie A with his goals apparently got kicked out of Fiorentina for NOTHING 0 euro to Besiktas. Fio paid 15.5 million euro for him.

As Foye mentioned when he got transferred to Italy, he did a magnificent job at Italy by scoring 7 goals on 33 matches. Incredible stats!

Now he will suck even more in Turkish League until he goes back to Germany. I am sure he'll regain his top goal scorer award once he is back to Buli.

Again and again, everyone sees why i call buli attackers stats overrated and attacking players are being inflated in buli.


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Post#537 » by DD12 » Sat Jan 30, 2016 10:50 pm

Hahah there are so many haters out here. Did i really hurt every single of you this much? :) Do you guys have dreams about me?

Let's start from the beginning.

Yilmaz? When I said he is good, he was very good. He scored 9 goals in CL. He has been scoring in Turkish league 15+ goals past 6-7 years. Never said he is world class. All i said was he knows how to score and he can score 20+ goals in bundesliga and epl.

Muslera? He is a top 5 GK in the world. I am just wondering how you guys make claims about a league when you never watch? How is that even possible? Ask anybody but literally anybody who watches Turkish League if muslera is at least top 10 gk in the world. You'll get your answer. You guys never watch our league so you dont know. Muslera won us 2 championships in last 4 years. Ask Batu who is a besiktas fan, ask Turco, ask anybody but anybody who follows Turkish league. Ask new guy i forgot his name, he is a fenerbahce fan. Ask on your facebook, ask your turkish friends. Everyone will tell you samething. No one can claim muslera is not top 10 gk in the world if they are actually watching the league.

Gala matched up with Arsenal and Dortmund when we were in horrible form with a horrible coach. I even wrote on CL thread the same thing. First i was happy because i believed in Prandelli. But after his idiotic selections and decisions, I called it on the thread that we would suck. You guys dont even follow the thread and trolling here.

Germany? Even Germans didn't give a single chance for them to win. They were creating bull about coach low. I was wrong on this for sure but it's not like you guys were thinking germans were going to win.

Ozil?? Haha i cracked up. Where were you when arsenal fans booed him? Now just because of he is good on this season, it makes him world class or something? He had only one good season in real madrid as well then fans booed him there too. So please.

Oh also Mario Gomez. He is awesome this year and it seems the guy is unstoppable. Good for him. Probably this is the only claim that i was very wrong in 3-4 years of realgm. But hey i am glad i am wrong. At least i can admit it. I have never seen some of you saying your opinion or making bold claims ever whatsoever. You guys are like 1 in multiplying numbers. No value, no effect in calculations at all. Just like that. You guys are here to talk about how sky is beautiful, how barca will destroy Alcante and how messi is great. You dont have to be genius to say these things. We all know it. I am here to talk about soccer and make predictions and claims about what i watch instead of attacking the ones who make claims without making a single claim by myself. My 3 years old nephew can do the same.
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Re: AW: 2015 

Post#538 » by Foye » Sun Jan 31, 2016 7:33 am

The funny thing is your claims are wrong more than 50% of the time and you still think you have more knowledge than anyone on this board.

You say we are going to destroy Arsenal and Dortmund....then finally realize your Gala team is garbage (what everyone else did way before) shortly before they match up and back out of your claim....only to then say "I was right. We have no chance because of moron Prandelli."
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Re: 2015 

Post#539 » by treiz » Sun Jan 31, 2016 12:50 pm

DD12 wrote:Hahah there are so many haters out here. Did i really hurt every single of you this much? :) Do you guys have dreams about me?

Let's start from the beginning.

Yilmaz? When I said he is good, he was very good. He scored 9 goals in CL. He has been scoring in Turkish league 15+ goals past 6-7 years. Never said he is world class. All i said was he knows how to score and he can score 20+ goals in bundesliga and epl.


Ok fair enough, I don't remember all of the discussion about Yilmaz back in the day but since I can't prove otherwise I'll let you have this. Although that later claim can probably never be proven which is a shame.

DD12 wrote:Muslera? He is a top 5 GK in the world. I am just wondering how you guys make claims about a league when you never watch? How is that even possible? Ask anybody but literally anybody who watches Turkish League if muslera is at least top 10 gk in the world. You'll get your answer. You guys never watch our league so you dont know. Muslera won us 2 championships in last 4 years. Ask Batu who is a besiktas fan, ask Turco, ask anybody but anybody who follows Turkish league. Ask new guy i forgot his name, he is a fenerbahce fan. Ask on your facebook, ask your turkish friends. Everyone will tell you samething. No one can claim muslera is not top 10 gk in the world if they are actually watching the league.


I have a few questions regarding this. You say this and yet wasn't Turco/Batu going against Muslera being top 5? I'm pretty sure they were on the sane side regarding this, I need confirmation.

If he is as good as you say he is then how come none of the big teams ever went for him? Especially since you've been saying this for a few years now and he's still 28 right now, you'd think a team would want to invest in a young, top 5 GK in the world entering his prime.

Lastly, I'm pretty sure you don't watch the EPL, BuLi, Serie A, La Liga as much as A LOT of people here do apart from maybe the big games, CL or highlights so how can you say who is and isn't a top 5 GK? How would you know? All we're saying is that in order to be a top 5 GK you have to at least be in the top leagues to prove it, he needs better competition to prove this claim. If you watch Gala religiously, of course you're going to have more exposure to Muslera and hence he's top 5 to you, which is an opinion I'm ok with, but to consistently claim it despite the contrary is where you often get vilified on this and other things.

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Gala matched up with Arsenal and Dortmund when we were in horrible form with a horrible coach. I even wrote on CL thread the same thing. First i was happy because i believed in Prandelli. But after his idiotic selections and decisions, I called it on the thread that we would suck. You guys dont even follow the thread and trolling here.


All I see here is excuses. You were talking some major smack talk about Gala battering Arsenal and Dortmund, and Yilmaz scoring 5 goals against Per (or something to that effect), at least man up to this.

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Germany? Even Germans didn't give a single chance for them to win. They were creating bull about coach low. I was wrong on this for sure but it's not like you guys were thinking germans were going to win.


Doesn't matter if their fans or anybody wasn't thinking that Germany was gonna win, at the end of the day they're the World champions, something you said would never happen.

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Ozil?? Haha i cracked up. Where were you when arsenal fans booed him? Now just because of he is good on this season, it makes him world class or something? He had only one good season in real madrid as well then fans booed him there too. So please.

Who the hell cares about Arsenal fans booing? Everybody in this country knows how most of them (even Arsenal fans) are spoilt and fickle those people are, all you have to do is watch the Arsenal TV post match crap. Same goes for most Real Marid fans, heck same goes for every football fan on this planet.

You're a finance guy right? You like numbers, so in his 3 years at RM he accumulated (in all competitions) 7 goals/23 assists, 6 goals/20 assists, 10 goals/17 assists. Yeah sure, he only had one good year at RM. Please.

DD12 wrote:Oh also Mario Gomez. He is awesome this year and it seems the guy is unstoppable. Good for him. Probably this is the only claim that i was very wrong in 3-4 years of realgm. But hey i am glad i am wrong. At least i can admit it. I have never seen some of you saying your opinion or making bold claims ever whatsoever. You guys are like 1 in multiplying numbers. No value, no effect in calculations at all. Just like that. You guys are here to talk about how sky is beautiful, how barca will destroy Alcante and how messi is great. You dont have to be genius to say these things. We all know it. I am here to talk about soccer and make predictions and claims about what i watch instead of attacking the ones who make claims without making a single claim by myself. My 3 years old nephew can do the same.

This is the first ever post I've ever seen you admit you were wrong despite the substantial evidence on some of your claims and I applaud that now, but don't come up and say "at least I can admit it" like you've been doing it this whole time.

That's because what else is there to say? Football is so wildly available that it's hard to have differing opinions on it without sounding like a complete idiot and even now some of the differing opinions are small and minute differences like you said. How are we supposed to make bold claims when the evidence is there to see otherwise, all it takes is a quick Google search or even just recording football matches on your TV. The evidence is there to be seen, not unlike before when all of this technology wasn't available.

For example, with your claims regarding Kondogbia being the 2nd best in Serie A, now I'm going to admit that I haven't seen much of him (not like he can get on the pitch anyway) but if you even watched even the highlights of the Serie A last year, you'd know that the midfields of Serie A is way more technical and tactical compared to Ligue 1 and despite him having all of the physical/technical traits to succeed. One of the reasons why he can't get on the pitch is because he doesn't have the tactical nous to even warrant any meaningful minutes. Now I hope he does learn because he's a huge talent, but the talent level between Ligue 1 and Serie A is big.
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Re: 2015 

Post#540 » by treiz » Sun Jan 31, 2016 1:31 pm

magik9113 wrote:With each match that passes it becomes more likely that Juve drop points because sh*t happens every once in a while


Sorry must've skipped past this with the other discussion going on :lol:

Same **** could happen to Napoli but now you're sounding like a true football fan, all negative Nancy and **** :D

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