The Trade-Mill - Trade Thread Part Infinity

[Murta]

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Any insight about this year's draft? As I recall, February/March was the time you posted them because they became relevant but not too close the draft.

[hickfromfrenchlick]

Are there really people saying they wouldn't trade the Brooklyn pick for Okafor? It's most likely to be the 4-5 pick and he was the number 3 pick in a much stronger draft (plus he was projected to go 1 or 2 leading up to the draft.) He's averaging 17 and 8 in his rookie season so it's not like he's not living up to expectations. Defense is a concern but he's 20, he has time to improve - Love and Cousins don't play defense either and they've been in the league for years. It would've been a great trade. He'd be the number 2 pick in this year's draft. In what world is that not worth giving up the 4-5 pick for?

- He can't shoot.
- He doesn't get to the free-throw line.
- He isn't a great rebounder.
- He moves about as well as 1999 Patrick Ewing.
- He doesn't protect the rim.
- He doesn't guard the pick-and-roll.
- He has a minus-11.6 net rating on one of the worst teams in NBA history.

As I said in another thread: he is Al Jefferson with less rebounding and even worse defense. That wouldn't even be acceptable in the era where low-post bigs were prevalent; let alone now.

I am not trading a shot at Ben Simmons and probably the most powerful asset we have for that.

P.S. I really wish we would all stop using counting stats as a be-all-end-all. With all of the statistical data we have at our disposal now, we should be longgg past using a guy's point and rebound averages to determine how good of a player he is.

He's 20 and much better than Al was at 20.

[ConstableGeneva]

lol how did that dude get banned in 4 posts

humblebum making a comeback?

[LarryBirdsFingr]

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Any insight about this year's draft? As I recall, February/March was the time you posted them because they became relevant but not too close the draft.

I dunno, last time i got the notification that we picked Portis danny changed his mind last minute, so who knows if that draft info will pan out again this year. It's been right since the Sullinger draft, but last year was a big biff.

[Celts17Pride]

I predict that if the Celtics don't get the 1st or 2nd pick then Ainge will trade the Nets pick.

[truth18]

lol how did that dude get banned in 4 posts

--- making a comeback?

Don't even say that fool's name, man. Every time you do a basketball guru dies.

[Green89]

I predict that if the Celtics don't get the 1st or 2nd pick then Ainge will trade the Nets pick.

He may still trade the 1st or 2nd pick for the right star player.

[rickrolled]

If we win the draft lottery I'd trade that pick, the better pick between us/Nets in '17 and the Nets '18 pick for Anthony Davis. Then go ahead and sign Durant. Boom Dynasty.

[Patsfan1081]

I would have been okay with Boston overpaying for Young if it made Nets a bottom three team. Young seems a little underrated and would be a upgrade at the four for us.

[Jingles]

I would have been okay with Boston overpaying for Young if it made Nets a bottom three team. Young seems a little underrated and would be a upgrade at the four for us.

Not good enough to clog up cap space.

[Fencer reregistered]

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/why-marc-gasol-remains-the-heart-of-the-grizzlies-202536847.html

Just found that Woj article, which is pretty emphatic about the idea that Marc Gasol isn't leaving Memphis any time soon.

[MaxwellSmart]

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Any insight about this year's draft? As I recall, February/March was the time you posted them because they became relevant but not too close the draft.

I dunno, last time i got the notification that we picked Portis danny changed his mind last minute, so who knows if that draft info will pan out again this year. It's been right since the Sullinger draft, but last year was a big biff.

Portis...pfft...yeah, Danny out-smarted himself on that one....just like the Perkins trade.

[Froob]

Any insight about this year's draft? As I recall, February/March was the time you posted them because they became relevant but not too close the draft.

I dunno, last time i got the notification that we picked Portis danny changed his mind last minute, so who knows if that draft info will pan out again this year. It's been right since the Sullinger draft, but last year was a big biff.

Portis...pfft...yeah, Danny out-smarted himself on that one....just like the Perkins trade.

Why do people continue to say this? Perkins has been trash since the ACL injury. There was noway we were beating Miami that year with Perkins, nor was he putting them over the top in future years. He was actually a huge reason the Thunder lost to Miami in 2012 because Scott Brooks wouldn't stop playing him so much.

[truth18]

I dunno, last time i got the notification that we picked Portis danny changed his mind last minute, so who knows if that draft info will pan out again this year. It's been right since the Sullinger draft, but last year was a big biff.

Portis...pfft...yeah, Danny out-smarted himself on that one....just like the Perkins trade.

Why do people continue to say this? Perkins has been trash since the ACL injury. There was noway we were beating Miami that year with Perkins, nor was he putting them over the top in future years. He was actually a huge reason the Thunder lost to Miami in 2012 because Scott Brooks wouldn't stop playing him so much.

Because it was one of several factors in our early playoff exit that year. Our team chemistry was night and day after that trade. We looked amazing before it. And Miami was very beatable (as the Mavs showed us).

But there are other factors. And it's not Danny's fault as you HAVE to make that trade.

[Curmudgeon]

I'd give up the Brooklyn pick for Aaron Gordon or Zach LaVine long before I would trade it for Okafor, whose game does not translate well in today's NBA. He's just too slow at both ends.

You like dunkers?

I like defenders.

[jfs1000d]

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/why-marc-gasol-remains-the-heart-of-the-grizzlies-202536847.html

Just found that Woj article, which is pretty emphatic about the idea that Marc Gasol isn't leaving Memphis any time soon.

Gasol ain't leaving. He went to high school there before heading to Europe. I would say he's from Memphis. Moved there when his brother was drafted. That's legitimately home.


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[Curmudgeon]

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/why-marc-gasol-remains-the-heart-of-the-grizzlies-202536847.html

Just found that Woj article, which is pretty emphatic about the idea that Marc Gasol isn't leaving Memphis any time soon.

Gasol ain't leaving. He went to high school there before heading to Europe. I would say he's from Memphis. Moved there when his brother was drafted. That's legitimately home.


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I don't think he has a no trade.

[CelticFaninLBC]

I predict that if the Celtics don't get the 1st or 2nd pick then Ainge will trade the Nets pick.

If Boston has the 4th pick, and Philly lands Simmons, I wonder if they re-visit the Okafor trade. Philly's one of the few teams that needs a pg and Dunn could be there at #4.

[Froob]

Portis...pfft...yeah, Danny out-smarted himself on that one....just like the Perkins trade.

Why do people continue to say this? Perkins has been trash since the ACL injury. There was noway we were beating Miami that year with Perkins, nor was he putting them over the top in future years. He was actually a huge reason the Thunder lost to Miami in 2012 because Scott Brooks wouldn't stop playing him so much.

Because it was one of several factors in our early playoff exit that year. Our team chemistry was night and day after that trade. We looked amazing before it. And Miami was very beatable (as the Mavs showed us).

But there are other factors. And it's not Danny's fault as you HAVE to make that trade.

Yeah chemistry is huge, but I doubt Perk was the difference maker. If Rondo hadn't gotten hurt it's a much closer series. Honestly though, not sure anybody was beating Dallas. If Shaq somehow could have stayed healthy and Danny not wasted MLE on a totally burnt out Jermaine O'Neal (probably his worst signing ever) then who knows....never should have relied on Shaq to stay heathy. On a slightly less related note, I'm glad I got a chance to see that 2011 team live when they had Shaq and were rolling. Incredible how good even 39 year old Shaq was offensively.

[Berkcelt]

Why do people continue to say this? Perkins has been trash since the ACL injury. There was noway we were beating Miami that year with Perkins, nor was he putting them over the top in future years. He was actually a huge reason the Thunder lost to Miami in 2012 because Scott Brooks wouldn't stop playing him so much.

Because it was one of several factors in our early playoff exit that year. Our team chemistry was night and day after that trade. We looked amazing before it. And Miami was very beatable (as the Mavs showed us).

But there are other factors. And it's not Danny's fault as you HAVE to make that trade.

Yeah chemistry is huge, but I doubt Perk was the difference maker. If Rondo hadn't gotten hurt it's a much closer series. Honestly though, not sure anybody was beating Dallas. If Shaq somehow could have stayed healthy and Danny not wasted MLE on a totally burnt out Jermaine O'Neal (probably his worst signing ever) then who knows....never should have relied on Shaq to stay heathy. On a slightly less related note, I'm glad I got a chance to see that 2011 team live when they had Shaq and were rolling. Incredible how good even 39 year old Shaq was offensively.

Probably didn't make a difference in the end result, but chemistry definitely took a hit. I can see wanting the pick and trying out Green, but betting on JO and Shaq at that point was just a bad gamble; that gamble was the only thing I really didn't like about the trade at the time (besides seeing Perk have to go). Personally, I would have just liked Perk to be around after Wade threw Rondo to the ground. Maybe somebody would've finally put that guy in his place.

Incidentally, the only game I saw live that year was when Shaq came back (vs. Detroit) for his first game after being out a while...and tore his achilles after like 5 or 6 minutes of playing time. Man, that sucked.