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Game 56: Detroit Pistons (27-28) vs. New Orleans Pelicans (21-33) - 3:30 PM ET

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Re: Game 56: Detroit Pistons (27-28) vs. New Orleans Pelicans (21-33) - 3:30 PM ET 

Post#341 » by hoophabit » Mon Feb 22, 2016 2:16 pm

pistontr wrote:pistons has lost 17 of last 27 games. fans should stop underreacting.


Personally, I don't care if some fans wear sack cloth and ashes and self flagellate after a loss. I guess folks have to do what they must to show they care. I suppose the point the "overreacting" crowd is trying to make is that, at least for them, the game is more enjoyable without going overboard emotionally. Do as you wish, but I just don't see how denigrating the team and coach actually helps. We're all disappointed with the way things have gone of late. Players need to hold up their end or eventually the team will move on from them. I confess there are times I wish those who quit the team with every loss actually meant it. :lol:
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Re: Game 56: Detroit Pistons (27-28) vs. New Orleans Pelicans (21-33) - 3:30 PM ET 

Post#342 » by Moses ShamMoses » Mon Feb 22, 2016 2:35 pm

The voice of reason: We were bound to hit a rough stretch over the course of 82 games. Does this mean we will for sure turn it around and make a playoff push? No, but probably a good chance.
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Re: Game 56: Detroit Pistons (27-28) vs. New Orleans Pelicans (21-33) - 3:30 PM ET 

Post#343 » by Manocad » Mon Feb 22, 2016 2:40 pm

Snakebites wrote:K. We made moves to upgrade our forward spots. I get that he wants to integrate Harris slowly, but I can't possibly see how an unintegrated Harris could be worse than what we got from Morris or Tolliver today.

I was done with those guys as starters a long time ago. Is Stanley consistent in his results (effort is not a question, obviously)? No, but he shows a LOT of promise and is a piece of the team's future. Harris should be looked at the same way. I'll take inconsistency from young, developing players any day over players who may not be in the long term picture. Start SJ and Harris.
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Re: Game 56: Detroit Pistons (27-28) vs. New Orleans Pelicans (21-33) - 3:30 PM ET 

Post#344 » by Finn McCool » Mon Feb 22, 2016 3:33 pm

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pistontr wrote:pistons has lost 17 of last 27 games. fans should stop underreacting.


Personally, I don't care if some fans wear sack cloth and ashes and self flagellate after a loss. I guess folks have to do what they must to show they care. I suppose the point the "overreacting" crowd is trying to make is that, at least for them, the game is more enjoyable without going overboard emotionally. Do as you wish, but I just don't see how denigrating the team and coach actually helps. We're all disappointed with the way things have gone of late. Players need to hold up their end or eventually the team will move on from them. I confess there are times I wish those who quit the team with every loss actually meant it. :lol:


Perhaps when the few fans speak of quitting on the team, they are implying that they quit believing the team is destined for the playoffs.
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Re: Game 56: Detroit Pistons (27-28) vs. New Orleans Pelicans (21-33) - 3:30 PM ET 

Post#345 » by SVG » Mon Feb 22, 2016 5:43 pm

seems like our DPOY had another strong defensive night LMAO
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Re: Game 56: Detroit Pistons (27-28) vs. New Orleans Pelicans (21-33) - 3:30 PM ET 

Post#346 » by hoophabit » Mon Feb 22, 2016 5:54 pm

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pistontr wrote:pistons has lost 17 of last 27 games. fans should stop underreacting.


Personally, I don't care if some fans wear sack cloth and ashes and self flagellate after a loss. I guess folks have to do what they must to show they care. I suppose the point the "overreacting" crowd is trying to make is that, at least for them, the game is more enjoyable without going overboard emotionally. Do as you wish, but I just don't see how denigrating the team and coach actually helps. We're all disappointed with the way things have gone of late. Players need to hold up their end or eventually the team will move on from them. I confess there are times I wish those who quit the team with every loss actually meant it. :lol:


Perhaps when the few fans speak of quitting on the team, they are implying that they quit believing the team is destined for the playoffs.


Yeah, maybe so. Expanded like that it's a reasonable question about the team and its current performance. I question that myself. If the Motiejunas thing isn't a go, we're in big trouble. Already very small at the 4, it's suddenly much worse. Harris and Marcus are best at SF. Tolliver's health is a big issue, and it was already concerning that could be an issue. We'll wish we still had Ersan to wonder at his pump faking.

Teams have figured out the Piston's MO. Their outside shooting is poor, and they're thin on the inside. The only real hope is to outrun teams, and they don't seem to have great chemistry for that game, besides it requiring great effort!?

I suppose I was a little harsh. No doubt on every score I'm an old fashioned fan. Just a guy from Michigan and the Pistons are my team. Good and bad.

Despair and singular negativism adds little to the discussion. Just saying... :wink:
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Re: Game 56: Detroit Pistons (27-28) vs. New Orleans Pelicans (21-33) - 3:30 PM ET 

Post#347 » by Montanabadboy » Tue Feb 23, 2016 2:05 am

coordinator0 wrote:
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Nope, can't change any details of the trade now. If Detroit decides to fail Motiejunas' physical Houston couldn't do anything about it either. That's completely up to the Pistons and why all trades are only final pending physicals.




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Detroit can certainly modify the terms of the trade including pick protection if there is any uncertainty on DM back.



Yeah, I just saw that. Seems strange that they would be able to do so. Whether or not Houston would accept less is another matter but I don't think it matters much in the end. The Pistons would probably want to give up the pick this year with this weak draft instead of hanging onto it and then losing one in a better class.


I think that it's only fair to point out that Bobby Marks doesn't know what he's talking about, but that coordinator0 knows what's up. I shouldn't have doubted you.That is all.
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Re: Game 56: Detroit Pistons (27-28) vs. New Orleans Pelicans (21-33) - 3:30 PM ET 

Post#348 » by coordinator0 » Tue Feb 23, 2016 2:07 am

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Detroit can certainly modify the terms of the trade including pick protection if there is any uncertainty on DM back.



Yeah, I just saw that. Seems strange that they would be able to do so. Whether or not Houston would accept less is another matter but I don't think it matters much in the end. The Pistons would probably want to give up the pick this year with this weak draft instead of hanging onto it and then losing one in a better class.


I think that it's only fair to point out that Bobby Marks doesn't know what he's talking about, but that coordinator0 knows what's up. I shouldn't have doubted you.That is all.


Hmm? No, I'm pretty sure I was wrong. :lol: I thought with the deadline being passed that a deal couldn't be changed but apparently it could have if the teams agreed to it.
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Re: Game 56: Detroit Pistons (27-28) vs. New Orleans Pelicans (21-33) - 3:30 PM ET 

Post#349 » by Montanabadboy » Tue Feb 23, 2016 2:11 am

VanGundy is quoted as saying that it wasn't an option to modify the terms of the deal

http://www.hoopsrumors.com/2016/02/central-rumors-motiejunas-novak-love.html
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Post#350 » by coordinator0 » Tue Feb 23, 2016 2:47 am

Oh. Okay I'll take it. :lol:

The reasoning Van Gundy provided makes sense. It didn't seem CBA-legal for teams to be able to change a trade after the deadline.
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Re: Game 56: Detroit Pistons (27-28) vs. New Orleans Pelicans (21-33) - 3:30 PM ET 

Post#351 » by Arp590 » Wed Feb 24, 2016 2:15 pm

Lol Anthony Davis scored 9 points following his 59 point outburst against us.
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Re: Game 56: Detroit Pistons (27-28) vs. New Orleans Pelicans (21-33) - 3:30 PM ET 

Post#352 » by Bakuto » Mon Feb 29, 2016 4:45 am

Magic_Johnny12 wrote:#tobiaseffect


Notice that the Pistons are on a four game win streak and this waste of a person doesn't show up. :lol:

And aren't you the one who was called out in the T+T board for saying that Orlando would get multiple firsts for Harris and ripped the inevitable negative Tobias Harris threads? :lol: Haha just dug it out of the T+T board.

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Nyce_1 wrote:I wonder how many trades have the magic "lost" upon initial reaction only to emerge as doing well for themselves with the transaction?


:nod: :nod: :nod:

Can't wait to see the inevitable "Did Orlando win the Tobias trade" then a couple of months later "Orlando won the Tobias trade" followed with "Whats wrong with Tobias Harris" .

I'm a Tobias fan and only hope the best for him, but I have all the faith in the world in Hennigan and the outcome of these kinds of trades seem a little too predictable coming from Hennigan.

We will have roughly 35 million in cap space this summer, easily could attract two top free agents while retaining our RFA'a.


If you are going to play that card about people changing their stance, just remember that he was a central asset in a Blake Griffin proposal 2 weeks ago by you (Tobias Harris/Evan Fournier/Jason Smith/LA 1st) and we aren't that far from your take that:

Harris if dealt will certainly be dealt for multiple 1st picks and might have to take back Frye and a young promising (rookie contract) will have to be coming back and I can't think of anyone right now that fits that bill that Henny will entertain.

Expirings? We have plenty of cap space and there's not many suitable free agents this year that will leave their current team.


I'm glad you're not in here trolling anymore, but you should've stayed out from the start. Especially if you're not gonna talk about our team when they're winning and Harris playing well.
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Post#353 » by DetroitSho » Mon Feb 29, 2016 12:50 pm

Catalysm wrote:
Magic_Johnny12 wrote:#tobiaseffect


Notice that the Pistons are on a four game win streak and this waste of a person doesn't show up. :lol:

And aren't you the one who was called out in the T+T board for saying that Orlando would get multiple firsts for Harris and ripped the inevitable negative Tobias Harris threads? :lol: Haha just dug it out of the T+T board.

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Magic_Johnny12 wrote:
:nod: :nod: :nod:

Can't wait to see the inevitable "Did Orlando win the Tobias trade" then a couple of months later "Orlando won the Tobias trade" followed with "Whats wrong with Tobias Harris" .

I'm a Tobias fan and only hope the best for him, but I have all the faith in the world in Hennigan and the outcome of these kinds of trades seem a little too predictable coming from Hennigan.

We will have roughly 35 million in cap space this summer, easily could attract two top free agents while retaining our RFA'a.


If you are going to play that card about people changing their stance, just remember that he was a central asset in a Blake Griffin proposal 2 weeks ago by you (Tobias Harris/Evan Fournier/Jason Smith/LA 1st) and we aren't that far from your take that:

Harris if dealt will certainly be dealt for multiple 1st picks and might have to take back Frye and a young promising (rookie contract) will have to be coming back and I can't think of anyone right now that fits that bill that Henny will entertain.

Expirings? We have plenty of cap space and there's not many suitable free agents this year that will leave their current team.


I'm glad you're not in here trolling anymore, but you should've stayed out from the start. Especially if you're not gonna talk about our team when they're winning and Harris playing well.

I thought the poster you quoted was an idiot......until I read your sig. WTF, is that sig referring to this season? Anyway, multiple firsts for Tobias? Yeah, no, not quite Johnny boy.
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Re: Game 56: Detroit Pistons (27-28) vs. New Orleans Pelicans (21-33) - 3:30 PM ET 

Post#354 » by Bakuto » Mon Feb 29, 2016 12:56 pm

DetroitSho wrote:
Catalysm wrote:
Magic_Johnny12 wrote:#tobiaseffect


Notice that the Pistons are on a four game win streak and this waste of a person doesn't show up. :lol:

And aren't you the one who was called out in the T+T board for saying that Orlando would get multiple firsts for Harris and ripped the inevitable negative Tobias Harris threads? :lol: Haha just dug it out of the T+T board.

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If you are going to play that card about people changing their stance, just remember that he was a central asset in a Blake Griffin proposal 2 weeks ago by you (Tobias Harris/Evan Fournier/Jason Smith/LA 1st) and we aren't that far from your take that:



I'm glad you're not in here trolling anymore, but you should've stayed out from the start. Especially if you're not gonna talk about our team when they're winning and Harris playing well.

I thought the poster you quoted was an idiot......until I read your sig. WTF, is that sig referring to this season? Anyway, multiple firsts for Tobias? Yeah, no, not quite Johnny boy.


Yeah yoyoboy was talking about this year ahaha. I would love to beat Cleveland the last game of the season to make a thread in the GB about Cleveland's weaknesses or whatever, because I know he's always on the General Board and he'd see the sig lol.

And yeah I think Jonny is just upset that Tobias has fit in quite nicely right now. Not our fault that our coach wants to use him to his strengths, unlike what Scott Skiles had been doing.
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Re: Game 56: Detroit Pistons (27-28) vs. New Orleans Pelicans (21-33) - 3:30 PM ET 

Post#355 » by DetroitSho » Mon Feb 29, 2016 1:06 pm

Catalysm wrote:
DetroitSho wrote:
Catalysm wrote:
Notice that the Pistons are on a four game win streak and this waste of a person doesn't show up. :lol:

And aren't you the one who was called out in the T+T board for saying that Orlando would get multiple firsts for Harris and ripped the inevitable negative Tobias Harris threads? :lol: Haha just dug it out of the T+T board.



I'm glad you're not in here trolling anymore, but you should've stayed out from the start. Especially if you're not gonna talk about our team when they're winning and Harris playing well.

I thought the poster you quoted was an idiot......until I read your sig. WTF, is that sig referring to this season? Anyway, multiple firsts for Tobias? Yeah, no, not quite Johnny boy.


Yeah yoyoboy was talking about this year ahaha. I would love to beat Cleveland the last game of the season to make a thread in the GB about Cleveland's weaknesses or whatever, because I know he's always on the General Board and he'd see the sig lol.

And yeah I think Jonny is just upset that Tobias has fit in quite nicely right now. Not our fault that our coach wants to use him to his strengths, unlike what Scott Skiles had been doing.

Wow, even if the moron thought we'd be bad, Detroit NEVER has a bottom 3 record. That's just stupid.

And yeah with Tobias, every game I've said the same thing to myself watching him, "Orlando really couldn't use this type of player"? I really don't get the whole fit thing. Tobias is both effective with and without the ball so I believe he could fit with just about any team in the league. But hey, another man's trash.......

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