Arp590 wrote:zeebneeb wrote:Arp590 wrote:Are you really using the "strength of schedule stat" to say that's the reason their schedule isn't 5x easier?
How about go look at some sports books odds or something? Most likely the Pacers are 5x more likely to beat the 76ers or Brooklyn, than our odds are to beat Miami, Chicago, Washington, Cleveland.
These numbers can't quantify odds... we're talking about the chances of the Pacers beating their opponents versus the chance of us beating our opponents.
Stop arguing nothing, the Pacers have a significantly easier schedule and it's not even debatable.
Once again I
am not arguing the Pacers have an easier schedule. Your arguing that point with some mysterious poster who is apparently invisible to everyone but you.
And did you just say "These numbers cant quantify odds"?
Really?
What should we use then? I am extremely interested in your answer to this question.
Those numbers can't quantify that the Pacers have a 5x easier schedule in their present form. Obviously I was using 5x loosely... but it's probably true.
The Warrior's are probably at least 20X more likely to beat the 76ers than the odds of us beating anyone remaining on our schedule, how would you use the "strength of schedule statistic" to determine that?
.598 & .418 doesn't tell me anything except that our schedule is harder in relation to their schedule. Show me the odds of the Pacers beating Brooklyn versus us beating Miami.
I am not going to argue with you anymore as it seems your shrugging off
numbers when making any assertion and in the context of the current argument that's just silly.
Ill just leave this here and let you decide if we need to worry about the Wizards or Bulls;
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-nba-picks/I am stating that I wanted the Bulls to win against Indiana as it did not statistically speaking, significantly improve their odds of overtaking the Pistons if the Pistons beat OKC. That is exactly what happened. Your position is that Indiana should have won making it near impossible for the Bulls to overtake the Pistons.
I am saying(and here it comes) that even if the Bulls beat Indiana(they did) their chances(get ready)of overtaking the Pistons are still extremely low(and they are!) if the Pistons beat OKC(BOOM. They did)
Hence the assertion that I wanted the Bulls to beat Indiana as it would strengthen the Pistons chances to grab the 7th seed if we also beat OKC.
That is what happened. Now if you want to argue purely that the Pistons will not overtake Indiana for the 7th seed fine, by all means. I will be arguing a losing battle on that front as I have already pointed out that the Pacers have an easier schedule! That point seems to be lost on you somehow. I take umbrage with your "5x" because it speaks to how you want to use numbers, but not abide by the rules of the number itself.
All I am saying is that the odds are extremely low that the Pistons miss the playoffs. I am not saying it cannot happen, but that it
probably won't according to statistics.
I am also, in conclusion saying
I WANT THE RAPTORS