Giannis' Development

[Badgerlander]

The only playoff teams that we've beaten so far with point Giannis is Miami and Houston (Memphis was a d league team that night)


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Yeah ok that's noted but its been the arrival of the three as a trio that sprung the excitement of fans. Hes shown he can comfortably run the offense and from the first opportunity better then I believed right now. End of the day, the rest of our roster is pure trash and that's pretty widely accepted so win/loss record isn't really a concern for me right now.
I have no issue with him running the offense after seeing what we have, clearly we will have two other guards on the floor that can take turns and Jabari in iso situations I just don't believe we need a pure pg next to him given how comfortable Giannis has looked whilst being so inexperienced at the position.

Oh yeah I am totally excited about our big 3 and I'm not writing Giannis off as our starting PG by any means. When I look at the construction and fit on our team I am always focused on how it will perform in the playoffs where everything slows down into half court sets. Until Giannis can knock down jumpers him running the Point in the halfcourt is essentially an ISO and even if he were as good as Durant I wouldn't want to have to hand Durant the ball every trip down the floor and expect him to get a win. Middleton is a nice third option when he has a mismatch, and as Jabari develops I am hoping his ISOs will be our second option but in the meantime a Guard that can run the high pnr would open up the paint for Mids/Jabari/Giannis as cutters or to hit the corner 3 if their man leaves them etc. I realize that there isn't much out there right now in FA though.

[LUKE23]

The only playoff teams that we've beaten so far with point Giannis is Miami and Houston (Memphis was a d league team that night)


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I don't see the relevance in that. The team sucks ass because of the bench.

It's not fair to blame the bench for this season's struggles when the starters are 24th in the league in +/- (-137).

Raw plus minus isn't how you evaluate teams. I will pull it later but there are multiple advanced stats showing how bad our bench is. It's arguably worst in the league.

Either way, the team was humming with Giannis at PG and Plumlee at C. It's very clear why we went away from that. We needed to tank and also increase Monroe trade value.

But no, sorry, the bench is ****.

[LUKE23]

You put Giannis in the PG role for several reasons. The first is that when he gets the ball immediately for a possession, he can generate his own easy transition points, which is huge for a team like ours.

Secondly, at the PG spot handling up front, he's going to require a double team pretty much no matter who is on him. Assuming we have another guard who can hit a 3 and a C who can catch lobs with KM/JP, that leaves great options open.

Lastly, the kid is just a great passer. You want him with the ball in his hands all the time and to not do so takes away the Bucks biggest advantage.

[Badgerlander]

The only playoff teams that we've beaten so far with point Giannis is Miami and Houston (Memphis was a d league team that night)


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I don't see the relevance in that. The team sucks ass because of the bench. A better stat to look at is team O Efficiency with Giannis running PG and compare it to the other PG lineups.

I'd love to see some Synergy stats on Giannis since he took over the point

[paulpressey25]

You guys need to work on your meta skills. The news here is not that Giannis will be the starting pg next season. The news is that Kidd thinks he will still be the coach.

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Yep. This proclamation combined with all the other stuff that has come out the past in the other interviews with Hammond and Gus would lead me to believe the organization is now on the same page. They're going to run with the big three w/Giannis at point while tanking for the highest pick possible. Meanwhile in the offseason they will try to load up on 3 and D guys like Delly. And I still see them putting out feelers for Dwight depending on what Monroe could bring in trade and Plumlee's price tag.

[Shaffty]

Tough crowd. Losing really isn't some of your guys thing.


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considering the team we are all fans of its confusing for sure

[3Diamantidis]

I won't have the chance to watch the bucks again this season(nor Greece at the olympics) so i will post here what i would like to see from Giannis next season.

- A good medium shot and a decent 3(especially from the corner)
- A normal FT routine accompanied with a 80% eff.
- Usage of the backboard in layups.
- Being comfortable in playing PnR.
- Being stronger. Add a few pounds more(not many).

I will be happy if he is a 20(over 50%eff)/10/6/1.5/1.5/2TOs player next season.
All Star appearance, possible MIP award, 3-4 Player of the Week awards, 1 Player of the Month, member of an All NBA team.
It will be his 4th season and he will be expected to make the crucial leap.
If he leads the bucks into the playoffs he will be on his way to superstar level.

Be well all of you

PS. Make the bucks keep Giannis in the US this summer. I don't know how lol. But it is a necessity.

[imithanos]

It's not a necessity. It's just not ideal.

He will have 6,5 months until the next season begins. Even if he rests his body for 1,5 month he still has 5 month available of training. 3 months (or 2 if Greece fails to qualify for the olympics) team training -two(or one) with the NT and one with the Bucks- and 2(or 3) months individual training.

I would love to spend 100% of his time on individual training, but it's not like he will regress or won't progress during the time with the NT. He will play some really meaningfull games (something he didn't do a lot this season) and be the leader of this team. In addition it's not like he won't work individually during the time with the NT.

Atm I just hope he remains healthy. I am sure he will be better at the new season's premiere. He and Parker will be much better.

[raferfenix]

Yeah Kidd isn't going anywhere considering how Giannis credits him for his development...

Howard seems like a big risk though in terms of making sure Giannis can make this his own team.

Having a rapidly declining Dwight who still thinks he is Shaq despite all evidence to the contrary seems like an even worse idea in that context.

"I want to come back and try to be more vocal, become the leader of this team," Giannis said, "and push this team as far as we can go."

http://www.brewhoop.com/2016/4/1/11341850/giannis-antetokounmpo-bucks-jason-kidd-nba-jabari-parker-kobe-bryant-lebron-james

[Magic Giannison]

"I want to come back and try to be more vocal, become the leader of this team," Giannis said, "and push this team as far as we can go."

MY BODY IS READY GIANNIS, GIVE IT TO ME!

[Gianstoppable]

"I want to come back and try to be more vocal, become the leader of this team," Giannis said, "and push this team as far as we can go."

MY BODY IS READY GIANNIS, GIVE IT TO ME!

[H2tObes]

"I want to come back and try to be more vocal, become the leader of this team," Giannis said, "and push this team as far as we can go."

MY BODY IS READY GIANNIS, GIVE IT TO ME!

Magic Giannison would drag his balls through a mile of broken glass to hear Giannis fart through a walkie talkie, this doesn't surprise me

[Magic Giannison]

MY BODY IS READY GIANNIS, GIVE IT TO ME!

Magic Giannison would drag his balls through a mile of glass to hear Giannis fart through a walkie talkie, this doesn't surprise me

LOL DUDE WTF?

[H2tObes]

Magic Giannison would drag his balls through a mile of glass to hear Giannis fart through a walkie talkie, this doesn't surprise me

LOL DUDE WTF?

Your love for Giannis knows no bounds

[Prez]

"I want to come back and try to be more vocal, become the leader of this team," Giannis said, "and push this team as far as we can go."

MY BODY IS READY GIANNIS, GIVE IT TO ME!

[Chapter29]

"I want to come back and try to be more vocal, become the leader of this team," Giannis said, "and push this team as far as we can go."

MY BODY IS READY GIANNIS, GIVE IT TO ME!

[greekbuck34]

[yannisk]

Giannis has improved a lot since last year in most aspects of his game but he has regressed in shooting. Last year after the all star break he was hitting the midrange shot with a good rate. He also shot respectable during the summer with the NT but after the first few games of the season he does not have any consistency, sometimes it's all net while others (usually) he misses by a mile.

One excuse is that they have been tweaking with his shot mechanism. Now his form does not look bad and after the season end he has to spend a lot of time shooting to develop the necessary muscle memory. It will be a pity if such a unique player remains with such a glaring hole in his game.

[turbo2k]

You guys need to work on your meta skills. The news here is not that Giannis will be the starting pg next season. The news is that Kidd thinks he will still be the coach.

/reporter

Yep. This proclamation combined with all the other stuff that has come out the past in the other interviews with Hammond and Gus would lead me to believe the organization is now on the same page. They're going to run with the big three w/Giannis at point while tanking for the highest pick possible. Meanwhile in the offseason they will try to load up on 3 and D guys like Delly. And I still see them putting out feelers for Dwight depending on what Monroe could bring in trade and Plumlee's price tag.

You know what I think, to a certain extent, Kidd showed how good PG Giannis was without Monroe in the games, back when Plums was playing, and we had everyone down with what seemed like extended injuries. Then he said, here now see what happens when Monroe goes back in. Poof! That's my simplified view, but I haven't really gotten to watch to many games lately. Just basing on the rumor that Kidd had that trade turned down.

[diener34]

I realize how stupid this sounds, but I really would like to see Fred Hoiberg coach this team.