Marcus Morris Appreciation Thread

Maker_84 · Post #41 » by **Maker_84** » Sun Apr 3, 2016 3:52 pm

MotownMadness wrote:Doesn't look like Johnson will be taking that starting spot anytime soon

Can you believe people actually wanted that scrub to start over Marcus? He's closer to being out of the NBA than getting a starting spot

MotownMadness · Post #42 » by **MotownMadness** » Sun Apr 3, 2016 3:55 pm

Maker_84 wrote:
MotownMadness wrote:Doesn't look like Johnson will be taking that starting spot anytime soon

Can you believe people actually wanted that scrub to start over Marcus? He's closer to being out of the NBA than getting a starting spot

He's been disappointing but I'm going to give a couple years first before I give up on him. He's just not able to use his size as a advantage as much at this level with bigger and stronger players now.

DBC10 · Post #43 » by **DBC10** » Sun Apr 3, 2016 4:02 pm

MotownMadness wrote:
Maker_84 wrote:
MotownMadness wrote:Doesn't look like Johnson will be taking that starting spot anytime soon

Can you believe people actually wanted that scrub to start over Marcus? He's closer to being out of the NBA than getting a starting spot

He's been disappointing but I'm going to give a couple years first before I give up on him. He's just not able to use his size as a advantage as much at this level with bigger and stronger players now.

He's kind of in no man's land at this moment. He doesn't really use his strength against 3s but can do so against 2s but can't defend either position adequately over Morris. He really isn't in any position to start over any of the starters right now, at all.

bstein14 · Post #44 » by **bstein14** » Sun Apr 3, 2016 4:32 pm

There have been a lot of nights where Marcus has been our best player on the floor.

Maker_84 · Post #45 » by **Maker_84** » Sun Apr 3, 2016 4:33 pm

DBC10 wrote:
MotownMadness wrote:
Maker_84 wrote:
Can you believe people actually wanted that scrub to start over Marcus? He's closer to being out of the NBA than getting a starting spot

He's been disappointing but I'm going to give a couple years first before I give up on him. He's just not able to use his size as a advantage as much at this level with bigger and stronger players now.

He's kind of in no man's land at this moment. He doesn't really use his strength against 3s but can do so against 2s but can't defend either position adequately over Morris. He really isn't in any position to start over any of the starters right now, at all.

he's not in a position to really ever play at all. Where in the HELL IS REGGIE BULLOCK???

i've said it since day 1 Stanley will only make it in the NBA if he fully moves to the 2 and in the offseason improves his shooting 100%. He doesn't have the size or athleticism to play anywhere else.

Spider156 · Post #46 » by **Spider156** » Sun Apr 3, 2016 4:45 pm

Stanley Johnson is amazing. Wherever he's been there's been success. That's not a coincidence. He knows how to win. He's our ticket to a championship.

MotownMadness · Post #47 » by **MotownMadness** » Sun Apr 3, 2016 6:13 pm

Spider156 wrote:Stanley Johnson is amazing. Wherever he's been there's been success. That's not a coincidence. He knows how to win. He's our ticket to a championship.

He's always had such a size advantage being built like a shorter LeBron but he doesn't have that now so he's going to have to develop that jumpshot

TurboTitan · Post #48 » by **TurboTitan** » Sun Apr 3, 2016 7:20 pm

He's a piston, only way to define him

Pharaoh · Post #49 » by **Pharaoh** » Mon Apr 4, 2016 12:24 am

Maker_84 wrote:
MotownMadness wrote:Doesn't look like Johnson will be taking that starting spot anytime soon

Can you believe people actually wanted that scrub to start over Marcus? He's closer to being out of the NBA than getting a starting spot

That's a ridiculous statement to post Maker.

whitehops · Post #50 » by **whitehops** » Mon Apr 4, 2016 2:29 am

since the all star break he's been averaging 16 PPG, shooting 48% from the field and 47% from downtown. even if you expand that to the new year he's shooting 45% and 39% from 3. that's a 43 game sample, which is significant.

i don't expect him to keep up his shooting since march (51% from the field, 53% from 3) but if he can keep up his shooting pace since january then he's gonna be a big factor in the playoffs for us.

for those advanced stats nuts, his TS% has been:

- 55% since january (similar to rodney hood, top 100 in the league)
- 59% since the all star break (similar to chandler parsons, top 30 in the league)
- 63% since march (similar to kevin durant, top 5 in the league*)

* i tried to find someone with similar usage but there was only durant and then a bunch of low usage, highly efficient players.

anyways, the fact that in the past month he's been so efficient (considering he takes so many jump shots) is remarkable.

zeebneeb · Post #51 » by **zeebneeb** » Mon Apr 4, 2016 3:04 am

whitehops wrote:since the all star break he's been averaging 16 PPG, shooting 48% from the field and 47% from downtown. even if you expand that to the new year he's shooting 45% and 39% from 3. that's a 43 game sample, which is significant.

i don't expect him to keep up his shooting since march (51% from the field, 53% from 3) but if he can keep up his shooting pace since january then he's gonna be a big factor in the playoffs for us.

for those advanced stats nuts, his TS% has been:

- 55% since january (similar to rodney hood, top 100 in the league)
- 59% since the all star break (similar to chandler parsons, top 30 in the league)
- 63% since march (similar to kevin durant, top 5 in the league*)

* i tried to find someone with similar usage but there was only durant and then a bunch of low usage, highly efficient players.

anyways, the fact that in the past month he's been so efficient (considering he takes so many jump shots) is remarkable.

This league is filled with talented players who never get a chance or are labeled malcontents or trouble makers and never succeed. Morris is supremely talented and when combined with Harris it makes a duo that will wreck this league.

You know how many teams want just one dynamic forward? We have two who can do everything on the floor! It is unheard of.

Morris's play as of late can be directly contributed to Harris.

Spider156 · Post #52 » by **Spider156** » Mon Apr 4, 2016 3:20 am

whitehops wrote:since the all star break he's been averaging 16 PPG, shooting 48% from the field and 47% from downtown. even if you expand that to the new year he's shooting 45% and 39% from 3. that's a 43 game sample, which is significant.

i don't expect him to keep up his shooting since march (51% from the field, 53% from 3) but if he can keep up his shooting pace since january then he's gonna be a big factor in the playoffs for us.

for those advanced stats nuts, his TS% has been:

- 55% since january (similar to rodney hood, top 100 in the league)
- 59% since the all star break (similar to chandler parsons, top 30 in the league)
- 63% since march (similar to kevin durant, top 5 in the league*)

* i tried to find someone with similar usage but there was only durant and then a bunch of low usage, highly efficient players.

anyways, the fact that in the past month he's been so efficient (considering he takes so many jump shots) is remarkable.

Lol I can't wait until teams start making game plans to slow Marcus down and that's when Jackson or maybe KCP get hot.

zeebneeb · Post #53 » by **zeebneeb** » Mon Apr 4, 2016 3:58 am

Spider156 wrote:
whitehops wrote:since the all star break he's been averaging 16 PPG, shooting 48% from the field and 47% from downtown. even if you expand that to the new year he's shooting 45% and 39% from 3. that's a 43 game sample, which is significant.

i don't expect him to keep up his shooting since march (51% from the field, 53% from 3) but if he can keep up his shooting pace since january then he's gonna be a big factor in the playoffs for us.

for those advanced stats nuts, his TS% has been:

- 55% since january (similar to rodney hood, top 100 in the league)
- 59% since the all star break (similar to chandler parsons, top 30 in the league)
- 63% since march (similar to kevin durant, top 5 in the league*)

* i tried to find someone with similar usage but there was only durant and then a bunch of low usage, highly efficient players.

anyways, the fact that in the past month he's been so efficient (considering he takes so many jump shots) is remarkable.

Lol I can't wait until teams start making game plans to slow Marcus down and that's when Jackson or maybe KCP get hot.

See thats key with this team. This team leads the league in starters scoring in double figures by ALOT. You cannot key in on one guy. Its only going to get better, and better.

DET_Athletics · Post #54 » by **DET_Athletics** » Tue Apr 5, 2016 4:29 pm

not going to lie, i though it was a ok pick up in the summer, he was atop 15 pick. but in the beginning of the season i was a little disappointed in his defense, he came out shooting the lights out then hit a slump. i see now that his bad defense was also because of illyasova's lack of defense and willingness to move his feet. after we got harris, i think as a unit they will really grow. morris deserves some praise.

rmfc · Post #55 » by **rmfc** » Tue Apr 5, 2016 5:44 pm

Maker_84 wrote:
MotownMadness wrote:Doesn't look like Johnson will be taking that starting spot anytime soon

Can you believe people actually wanted that scrub to start over Marcus? He's closer to being out of the NBA than getting a starting spot

Scrub?

rmfc · Post #56 » by **rmfc** » Tue Apr 5, 2016 5:48 pm

zeebneeb wrote:
Spider156 wrote:
whitehops wrote:since the all star break he's been averaging 16 PPG, shooting 48% from the field and 47% from downtown. even if you expand that to the new year he's shooting 45% and 39% from 3. that's a 43 game sample, which is significant.

i don't expect him to keep up his shooting since march (51% from the field, 53% from 3) but if he can keep up his shooting pace since january then he's gonna be a big factor in the playoffs for us.

for those advanced stats nuts, his TS% has been:

- 55% since january (similar to rodney hood, top 100 in the league)
- 59% since the all star break (similar to chandler parsons, top 30 in the league)
- 63% since march (similar to kevin durant, top 5 in the league*)

* i tried to find someone with similar usage but there was only durant and then a bunch of low usage, highly efficient players.

anyways, the fact that in the past month he's been so efficient (considering he takes so many jump shots) is remarkable.

Lol I can't wait until teams start making game plans to slow Marcus down and that's when Jackson or maybe KCP get hot.
See thats key with this team. This team leads the league in starters scoring in double figures by ALOT. You cannot key in on one guy. Its only going to get better, and better.

That is what size going to be the ideal style of play for this team. There is no single starter on this team that is going to "take over" a game on a consistent basis. It is going to be a team effort and I hope the whole team realizes that and plays that way. And...to be honest...that is going to be the strength of this team going forward.

flow · Post #57 » by **flow** » Tue Apr 5, 2016 5:55 pm

He's been great, better than I anticipated. His acquisition was a steal. Stan the GM (and Bowers) has done a nice job thus far.

Finn McCool · Post #58 » by **Finn McCool** » Tue Apr 5, 2016 6:54 pm

Pharaoh wrote:
Maker_84 wrote:
MotownMadness wrote:Doesn't look like Johnson will be taking that starting spot anytime soon

Can you believe people actually wanted that scrub to start over Marcus? He's closer to being out of the NBA than getting a starting spot

That's a ridiculous statement to post Maker.

I think it counterbalances the exaggerated opinions from the other side of the spectrum. Somewhere in the middle is where the realistic views exist.

Spider156 · Post #59 » by **Spider156** » Tue Apr 5, 2016 7:23 pm

rmfc wrote:
zeebneeb wrote:
Spider156 wrote:Lol I can't wait until teams start making game plans to slow Marcus down and that's when Jackson or maybe KCP get hot.
See thats key with this team. This team leads the league in starters scoring in double figures by ALOT. You cannot key in on one guy. Its only going to get better, and better.

That is what size going to be the ideal style of play for this team. There is no single starter on this team that is going to "take over" a game on a consistent basis. It is going to be a team effort and I hope the whole team realizes that and plays that way. And...to be honest...that is going to be the strength of this team going forward.

Stanley Johnson. It's why his development is so vital. When I watch him play I can see he can score in a hurry if he gets enough touches. He's just a rookie and he keeps making boneheaded plays. That's just experience. Give the kid a summer and watch him grow. Next season we'll see our players much improved from this season which is why it's so exciting to watch this team.

hoophabit · Post #60 » by **hoophabit** » Tue Apr 5, 2016 9:08 pm

Spider156 wrote:
rmfc wrote:
zeebneeb wrote:See thats key with this team. This team leads the league in starters scoring in double figures by ALOT. You cannot key in on one guy. Its only going to get better, and better.

That is what size going to be the ideal style of play for this team. There is no single starter on this team that is going to "take over" a game on a consistent basis. It is going to be a team effort and I hope the whole team realizes that and plays that way. And...to be honest...that is going to be the strength of this team going forward.

Stanley Johnson. It's why his development is so vital. When I watch him play I can see he can score in a hurry if he gets enough touches. He's just a rookie and he keeps making boneheaded plays. That's just experience. Give the kid a summer and watch him grow. Next season we'll see our players much improved from this season which is why it's so exciting to watch this team.

The Piston's 19 YO swingman is a presence in the paint. He rebounds, defends, and plays pretty good team ball. Offense was improving before the injury. While he makes the occasional bonehead rookie mistake, most of the time he isn't really hurting the team. Kid just needs to figure out what he can do in this league. With his attitude and determination, I'm betting on Stanley. Makes me think he should end up kind of a stronger Mitch Richmond type. SJ should be able to get his shot off against about anyone.

That said, Marcus has been an absolute success for the Pistons. He's playing a selfless, mature team game. Taking shots when he should and moving the ball when it's the right thing. That was a pretty incredible trade. Did the Suns really have that many good forwards? Probably just got lucky. Another young player who is figuring out his game.