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Re: Wade Baldwin 

Post#21 » by sixerswillrule » Tue Apr 5, 2016 5:21 pm

0.6 FTAr is really good and an encouraging sign for the NBA. I see some Jrue Holiday in him with more ability to draw contact.
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Re: Wade Baldwin 

Post#22 » by Notanoob » Tue Apr 5, 2016 7:33 pm

He looks like a real good prospect. Good 3 point shot, very good at drawing fouls. That makes for efficient scoring.

On the other hand, he's a poor finisher and his turnover issues make him more of a combo guard than a pure PG. Worthy of a first round pick. Maybe a starter down the line.
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Re: Wade Baldwin 

Post#23 » by PickMeUpASixer » Tue Apr 5, 2016 8:02 pm

I put him right up there with Dunn in this year's PG class, which is underwhelming overall. He gets into the paint and has a high FTR, he can shoot it from midrange and deep and do both off the dribble, and he has a great defensive profile. AST/TOV isn't great but he also played in an offense built around High/lows for Jones.
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Re: Wade Baldwin 

Post#24 » by sixerswillrule » Tue Apr 5, 2016 8:52 pm

Am I missing something about his A/TO ratio?

Final college season

Conley - 2.8
Paul - 2.4
Williams - 2.4
MCW - 2.2
Rondo - 2.1
Walker - 2.0
Felton - 1.9
Collison - 1.9
Baldwin - 1.9
Jackson - 1.9
Lillard - 1.8
Rose - 1.8
Westbrook - 1.7
Lowry - 1.7
Holiday - 1.7
Russell - 1.7
Wall - 1.6
Hill - 1.5
Curry - 1.5
Payton - 1.5
Lin - 1.4
Thomas - 1.3
Knight - 1.3
Beverley - 1.2
Teague - 1.1
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Re: Wade Baldwin 

Post#25 » by NBA Fan 1234 » Tue Apr 5, 2016 9:19 pm

sixerswillrule wrote:Am I missing something about his A/TO ratio?

Final college season

Conley - 2.8
Paul - 2.4
Williams - 2.4
MCW - 2.2
Rondo - 2.1
Walker - 2.0
Felton - 1.9
Collison - 1.9
Baldwin - 1.9
Jackson - 1.9
Lillard - 1.8
Rose - 1.8
Westbrook - 1.7
Lowry - 1.7
Holiday - 1.7
Wall - 1.6
Hill - 1.5
Curry - 1.5
Payton - 1.5
Lin - 1.4
Thomas - 1.3
Knight - 1.3
Beverley - 1.2
Teague - 1.1


I don't think his A/TO is an issue at all - it's his creativity, if anything. Most of his assists came from specific sets and had very little in terms of free styling / creating for others when everything breaks down. Also, his A/TO ratio would be even better than it is now if guys would hit open shots.
So frustrating watching that this year...well, that and Stallings' **** offense (who I think should have been gone a few years ago).
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Re: Wade Baldwin 

Post#26 » by doordoor123 » Tue Apr 5, 2016 9:37 pm

Knickstape1214 wrote:
sixerswillrule wrote:Am I missing something about his A/TO ratio?

Final college season

Conley - 2.8
Paul - 2.4
Williams - 2.4
MCW - 2.2
Rondo - 2.1
Walker - 2.0
Felton - 1.9
Collison - 1.9
Baldwin - 1.9
Jackson - 1.9
Lillard - 1.8
Rose - 1.8
Westbrook - 1.7
Lowry - 1.7
Holiday - 1.7
Wall - 1.6
Hill - 1.5
Curry - 1.5
Payton - 1.5
Lin - 1.4
Thomas - 1.3
Knight - 1.3
Beverley - 1.2
Teague - 1.1


I don't think his A/TO is an issue at all - it's his creativity, if anything. Most of his assists came from specific sets and had very little in terms of free styling / creating for others when everything breaks down. Also, his A/TO ratio would be even better than it is now if guys would hit open shots.
So frustrating watching that this year...well, that and Stallings' **** offense (who I think should have been gone a few years ago).


I actually think one of his best attributes is that he uses his length with his passes to get around tight corners and such.
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Re: Wade Baldwin 

Post#27 » by NBA Fan 1234 » Tue Apr 5, 2016 9:46 pm

doordoor123 wrote:
Knickstape1214 wrote:
sixerswillrule wrote:Am I missing something about his A/TO ratio?

Final college season

Conley - 2.8
Paul - 2.4
Williams - 2.4
MCW - 2.2
Rondo - 2.1
Walker - 2.0
Felton - 1.9
Collison - 1.9
Baldwin - 1.9
Jackson - 1.9
Lillard - 1.8
Rose - 1.8
Westbrook - 1.7
Lowry - 1.7
Holiday - 1.7
Wall - 1.6
Hill - 1.5
Curry - 1.5
Payton - 1.5
Lin - 1.4
Thomas - 1.3
Knight - 1.3
Beverley - 1.2
Teague - 1.1


I don't think his A/TO is an issue at all - it's his creativity, if anything. Most of his assists came from specific sets and had very little in terms of free styling / creating for others when everything breaks down. Also, his A/TO ratio would be even better than it is now if guys would hit open shots.
So frustrating watching that this year...well, that and Stallings' **** offense (who I think should have been gone a few years ago).


I actually think one of his best attributes is that he uses his length with his passes to get around tight corners and such.


Sure, but I mean creativity like seeing things before others do like what CP3 does. Not a knock, but his passes always seemed "simple" to me - accurate, but simple.
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Re: Wade Baldwin 

Post#28 » by doordoor123 » Tue Apr 5, 2016 11:15 pm

Knickstape1214 wrote:
doordoor123 wrote:
Knickstape1214 wrote:
I don't think his A/TO is an issue at all - it's his creativity, if anything. Most of his assists came from specific sets and had very little in terms of free styling / creating for others when everything breaks down. Also, his A/TO ratio would be even better than it is now if guys would hit open shots.
So frustrating watching that this year...well, that and Stallings' **** offense (who I think should have been gone a few years ago).


I actually think one of his best attributes is that he uses his length with his passes to get around tight corners and such.


Sure, but I mean creativity like seeing things before others do like what CP3 does. Not a knock, but his passes always seemed "simple" to me - accurate, but simple.


Should you blame that on him, his coach or the people that have helped develop him thus far? A lot of coaches don't like creativity because it can often lead to turnovers. And I'm sure a team like Vanderbilt doesn't want to waste those possessions. On top of that, they play a slow-paced, give the ball to the bigs offense. I'd like to see what he can do on a team like the Rockets that suits him much more. Or a legitimate lob threat.
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Re: Wade Baldwin 

Post#29 » by Norman Dale » Tue Apr 5, 2016 11:51 pm

sixerswillrule wrote:I see some Jrue Holiday in him

I can see that - a capable but not explosive athlete, good sized PG that can play off the ball next to a dominant ballhandler.
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Post#30 » by NBA Fan 1234 » Wed Apr 6, 2016 12:23 am

doordoor123 wrote:
Knickstape1214 wrote:
doordoor123 wrote:
I actually think one of his best attributes is that he uses his length with his passes to get around tight corners and such.


Sure, but I mean creativity like seeing things before others do like what CP3 does. Not a knock, but his passes always seemed "simple" to me - accurate, but simple.


Should you blame that on him, his coach or the people that have helped develop him thus far? A lot of coaches don't like creativity because it can often lead to turnovers. And I'm sure a team like Vanderbilt doesn't want to waste those possessions. On top of that, they play a slow-paced, give the ball to the bigs offense. I'd like to see what he can do on a team like the Rockets that suits him much more. Or a legitimate lob threat.



I guess I blame Stallings, but I still hope he would have flashed some kind of vision / creativity - simply didn't see it very often. I think he'd be PERFECT as a secondary ball handler / primary ball handler against weaker secondary units.
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Post#31 » by Xanadu » Sat Apr 9, 2016 5:17 am

Love him and think he is the perfect fit for my Bucks. A off ball pg with a great shot and loads of defensive potential. I like the idea of him next to Giannis a lot.
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Post#32 » by King Ken » Sat Apr 9, 2016 7:43 am

Xanadu wrote:Love him and think he is the perfect fit for my Bucks. A off ball pg with a great shot and loads of defensive potential. I like the idea of him next to Giannis a lot.

He has a 7ft wingspan. Fits right in

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Post#33 » by M-C-G » Fri May 13, 2016 2:03 pm

Xanadu wrote:Love him and think he is the perfect fit for my Bucks. A off ball pg with a great shot and loads of defensive potential. I like the idea of him next to Giannis a lot.


Agreed, there is even more to like, seeing how well he tested. Much better athlete than I was led to believe.
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Post#34 » by M-C-G » Fri May 13, 2016 2:07 pm

King Ken wrote:
Xanadu wrote:Love him and think he is the perfect fit for my Bucks. A off ball pg with a great shot and loads of defensive potential. I like the idea of him next to Giannis a lot.

He has a 7ft wingspan. Fits right in

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If we drafted Baldwin

Baldwin 6'11
Midd 6'11
Parker 6'11.5
Giannis 7'4
Henson 7'5

Yeah, I think he fits nicely.
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Re: Wade Baldwin 

Post#35 » by MotownMadness » Fri May 13, 2016 10:19 pm

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Post#36 » by No-Man » Fri May 13, 2016 10:28 pm

MotownMadness wrote:Detroit Bound

I'd be tunned if he falls that far, literally
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Post#37 » by MotownMadness » Fri May 13, 2016 10:32 pm

Fischella wrote:
MotownMadness wrote:Detroit Bound

I'd be tunned if he falls that far, literally

Me too, Teams are starting to take notice. I think he will go to either the Bucks or Bulls now.
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Post#38 » by No-Man » Fri May 13, 2016 10:39 pm

MotownMadness wrote:
Fischella wrote:
MotownMadness wrote:Detroit Bound

I'd be tunned if he falls that far, literally

Me too, Teams are starting to take notice. I think he will go to either the Bucks or Bulls now.

I think he was a lock to go lotto all year long, likely to go somewhere between MIN, NOLA, DEN, SAC, MIL, ORL, UTH, CHI.

Has a really good case for been a top10 pick.
I can't see how he doesnt go top14, he could go as high as 4 if Phila gets LA's pick.
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Post#39 » by doordoor123 » Fri May 13, 2016 10:41 pm

Fischella wrote:
MotownMadness wrote:
Fischella wrote:I'd be tunned if he falls that far, literally

Me too, Teams are starting to take notice. I think he will go to either the Bucks or Bulls now.

I think he was a lock to go lotto all year long, likely to go somewhere between MIN, NOLA, DEN, SAC, MIL, ORL, UTH, CHI.

Has a really good case for been a top10 pick.
I can't see how he doesnt go top14, he could go as high as 4 if Phila gets LA's pick.


A big thing at the combine is that there are teams that don't like his demeanor and attitude. But I'm sure the teams that don't mind won't mind taking him earlier.
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Post#40 » by AshyLarrysDiaper » Sat May 14, 2016 12:47 am

doordoor123 wrote:
Fischella wrote:
MotownMadness wrote:Me too, Teams are starting to take notice. I think he will go to either the Bucks or Bulls now.

I think he was a lock to go lotto all year long, likely to go somewhere between MIN, NOLA, DEN, SAC, MIL, ORL, UTH, CHI.

Has a really good case for been a top10 pick.
I can't see how he doesnt go top14, he could go as high as 4 if Phila gets LA's pick.


A big thing at the combine is that there are teams that don't like his demeanor and attitude. But I'm sure the teams that don't mind won't mind taking him earlier.


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