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0.6 FTAr is really good and an encouraging sign for the NBA. I see some Jrue Holiday in him with more ability to draw contact.
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He looks like a real good prospect. Good 3 point shot, very good at drawing fouls. That makes for efficient scoring.
On the other hand, he's a poor finisher and his turnover issues make him more of a combo guard than a pure PG. Worthy of a first round pick. Maybe a starter down the line.
On the other hand, he's a poor finisher and his turnover issues make him more of a combo guard than a pure PG. Worthy of a first round pick. Maybe a starter down the line.
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I put him right up there with Dunn in this year's PG class, which is underwhelming overall. He gets into the paint and has a high FTR, he can shoot it from midrange and deep and do both off the dribble, and he has a great defensive profile. AST/TOV isn't great but he also played in an offense built around High/lows for Jones.
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Am I missing something about his A/TO ratio?
Final college season
Conley - 2.8
Paul - 2.4
Williams - 2.4
MCW - 2.2
Rondo - 2.1
Walker - 2.0
Felton - 1.9
Collison - 1.9
Baldwin - 1.9
Jackson - 1.9
Lillard - 1.8
Rose - 1.8
Westbrook - 1.7
Lowry - 1.7
Holiday - 1.7
Russell - 1.7
Wall - 1.6
Hill - 1.5
Curry - 1.5
Payton - 1.5
Lin - 1.4
Thomas - 1.3
Knight - 1.3
Beverley - 1.2
Teague - 1.1
Final college season
Conley - 2.8
Paul - 2.4
Williams - 2.4
MCW - 2.2
Rondo - 2.1
Walker - 2.0
Felton - 1.9
Collison - 1.9
Baldwin - 1.9
Jackson - 1.9
Lillard - 1.8
Rose - 1.8
Westbrook - 1.7
Lowry - 1.7
Holiday - 1.7
Russell - 1.7
Wall - 1.6
Hill - 1.5
Curry - 1.5
Payton - 1.5
Lin - 1.4
Thomas - 1.3
Knight - 1.3
Beverley - 1.2
Teague - 1.1
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sixerswillrule wrote:Am I missing something about his A/TO ratio?
Final college season
Conley - 2.8
Paul - 2.4
Williams - 2.4
MCW - 2.2
Rondo - 2.1
Walker - 2.0
Felton - 1.9
Collison - 1.9
Baldwin - 1.9
Jackson - 1.9
Lillard - 1.8
Rose - 1.8
Westbrook - 1.7
Lowry - 1.7
Holiday - 1.7
Wall - 1.6
Hill - 1.5
Curry - 1.5
Payton - 1.5
Lin - 1.4
Thomas - 1.3
Knight - 1.3
Beverley - 1.2
Teague - 1.1
I don't think his A/TO is an issue at all - it's his creativity, if anything. Most of his assists came from specific sets and had very little in terms of free styling / creating for others when everything breaks down. Also, his A/TO ratio would be even better than it is now if guys would hit open shots.
So frustrating watching that this year...well, that and Stallings' **** offense (who I think should have been gone a few years ago).
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Knickstape1214 wrote:sixerswillrule wrote:Am I missing something about his A/TO ratio?
Final college season
Conley - 2.8
Paul - 2.4
Williams - 2.4
MCW - 2.2
Rondo - 2.1
Walker - 2.0
Felton - 1.9
Collison - 1.9
Baldwin - 1.9
Jackson - 1.9
Lillard - 1.8
Rose - 1.8
Westbrook - 1.7
Lowry - 1.7
Holiday - 1.7
Wall - 1.6
Hill - 1.5
Curry - 1.5
Payton - 1.5
Lin - 1.4
Thomas - 1.3
Knight - 1.3
Beverley - 1.2
Teague - 1.1
I don't think his A/TO is an issue at all - it's his creativity, if anything. Most of his assists came from specific sets and had very little in terms of free styling / creating for others when everything breaks down. Also, his A/TO ratio would be even better than it is now if guys would hit open shots.
So frustrating watching that this year...well, that and Stallings' **** offense (who I think should have been gone a few years ago).
I actually think one of his best attributes is that he uses his length with his passes to get around tight corners and such.
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doordoor123 wrote:Knickstape1214 wrote:sixerswillrule wrote:Am I missing something about his A/TO ratio?
Final college season
Conley - 2.8
Paul - 2.4
Williams - 2.4
MCW - 2.2
Rondo - 2.1
Walker - 2.0
Felton - 1.9
Collison - 1.9
Baldwin - 1.9
Jackson - 1.9
Lillard - 1.8
Rose - 1.8
Westbrook - 1.7
Lowry - 1.7
Holiday - 1.7
Wall - 1.6
Hill - 1.5
Curry - 1.5
Payton - 1.5
Lin - 1.4
Thomas - 1.3
Knight - 1.3
Beverley - 1.2
Teague - 1.1
I don't think his A/TO is an issue at all - it's his creativity, if anything. Most of his assists came from specific sets and had very little in terms of free styling / creating for others when everything breaks down. Also, his A/TO ratio would be even better than it is now if guys would hit open shots.
So frustrating watching that this year...well, that and Stallings' **** offense (who I think should have been gone a few years ago).
I actually think one of his best attributes is that he uses his length with his passes to get around tight corners and such.
Sure, but I mean creativity like seeing things before others do like what CP3 does. Not a knock, but his passes always seemed "simple" to me - accurate, but simple.
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Knickstape1214 wrote:doordoor123 wrote:Knickstape1214 wrote:
I don't think his A/TO is an issue at all - it's his creativity, if anything. Most of his assists came from specific sets and had very little in terms of free styling / creating for others when everything breaks down. Also, his A/TO ratio would be even better than it is now if guys would hit open shots.
So frustrating watching that this year...well, that and Stallings' **** offense (who I think should have been gone a few years ago).
I actually think one of his best attributes is that he uses his length with his passes to get around tight corners and such.
Sure, but I mean creativity like seeing things before others do like what CP3 does. Not a knock, but his passes always seemed "simple" to me - accurate, but simple.
Should you blame that on him, his coach or the people that have helped develop him thus far? A lot of coaches don't like creativity because it can often lead to turnovers. And I'm sure a team like Vanderbilt doesn't want to waste those possessions. On top of that, they play a slow-paced, give the ball to the bigs offense. I'd like to see what he can do on a team like the Rockets that suits him much more. Or a legitimate lob threat.
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sixerswillrule wrote:I see some Jrue Holiday in him
I can see that - a capable but not explosive athlete, good sized PG that can play off the ball next to a dominant ballhandler.
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doordoor123 wrote:Knickstape1214 wrote:doordoor123 wrote:
I actually think one of his best attributes is that he uses his length with his passes to get around tight corners and such.
Sure, but I mean creativity like seeing things before others do like what CP3 does. Not a knock, but his passes always seemed "simple" to me - accurate, but simple.
Should you blame that on him, his coach or the people that have helped develop him thus far? A lot of coaches don't like creativity because it can often lead to turnovers. And I'm sure a team like Vanderbilt doesn't want to waste those possessions. On top of that, they play a slow-paced, give the ball to the bigs offense. I'd like to see what he can do on a team like the Rockets that suits him much more. Or a legitimate lob threat.
I guess I blame Stallings, but I still hope he would have flashed some kind of vision / creativity - simply didn't see it very often. I think he'd be PERFECT as a secondary ball handler / primary ball handler against weaker secondary units.
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Love him and think he is the perfect fit for my Bucks. A off ball pg with a great shot and loads of defensive potential. I like the idea of him next to Giannis a lot.
Bucks fandom bringing me happiness still seems like a dream.
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Xanadu wrote:Love him and think he is the perfect fit for my Bucks. A off ball pg with a great shot and loads of defensive potential. I like the idea of him next to Giannis a lot.
He has a 7ft wingspan. Fits right in
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Xanadu wrote:Love him and think he is the perfect fit for my Bucks. A off ball pg with a great shot and loads of defensive potential. I like the idea of him next to Giannis a lot.
Agreed, there is even more to like, seeing how well he tested. Much better athlete than I was led to believe.
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King Ken wrote:Xanadu wrote:Love him and think he is the perfect fit for my Bucks. A off ball pg with a great shot and loads of defensive potential. I like the idea of him next to Giannis a lot.
He has a 7ft wingspan. Fits right in
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If we drafted Baldwin
Baldwin 6'11
Midd 6'11
Parker 6'11.5
Giannis 7'4
Henson 7'5
Yeah, I think he fits nicely.
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Detroit Bound
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MotownMadness wrote:Detroit Bound
I'd be tunned if he falls that far, literally
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Fischella wrote:MotownMadness wrote:Detroit Bound
I'd be tunned if he falls that far, literally
Me too, Teams are starting to take notice. I think he will go to either the Bucks or Bulls now.
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MotownMadness wrote:Fischella wrote:MotownMadness wrote:Detroit Bound
I'd be tunned if he falls that far, literally
Me too, Teams are starting to take notice. I think he will go to either the Bucks or Bulls now.
I think he was a lock to go lotto all year long, likely to go somewhere between MIN, NOLA, DEN, SAC, MIL, ORL, UTH, CHI.
Has a really good case for been a top10 pick.
I can't see how he doesnt go top14, he could go as high as 4 if Phila gets LA's pick.
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Fischella wrote:MotownMadness wrote:Fischella wrote:I'd be tunned if he falls that far, literally
Me too, Teams are starting to take notice. I think he will go to either the Bucks or Bulls now.
I think he was a lock to go lotto all year long, likely to go somewhere between MIN, NOLA, DEN, SAC, MIL, ORL, UTH, CHI.
Has a really good case for been a top10 pick.
I can't see how he doesnt go top14, he could go as high as 4 if Phila gets LA's pick.
A big thing at the combine is that there are teams that don't like his demeanor and attitude. But I'm sure the teams that don't mind won't mind taking him earlier.
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doordoor123 wrote:Fischella wrote:MotownMadness wrote:Me too, Teams are starting to take notice. I think he will go to either the Bucks or Bulls now.
I think he was a lock to go lotto all year long, likely to go somewhere between MIN, NOLA, DEN, SAC, MIL, ORL, UTH, CHI.
Has a really good case for been a top10 pick.
I can't see how he doesnt go top14, he could go as high as 4 if Phila gets LA's pick.
A big thing at the combine is that there are teams that don't like his demeanor and attitude. But I'm sure the teams that don't mind won't mind taking him earlier.
Where did you read this?
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