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Political Roundtable Part IX

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Re: Political Roundtable Part IX 

Post#161 » by nate33 » Tue Apr 5, 2016 5:28 pm

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Uh huh...so when Ted Nugent called obama a "chimp ass" and called for him to be hung, what did you say about it?

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"Chimp ass" is a far cry from "she should be gang raped".


so a racial slur isn't as bad as a rape slur? You sound like a whiny liberal nate.

One is a threat of violence, or at least a call for others to commit violence. (And it also happened to be a racial slur since Azalea seemed to be so fixated on Palin being raped by black men.) Nugent's crack was merely and idiotic insult. If you can't distinguish between the two, you are not being intellectually honest. As I said before, the outcry if the situation was reversed would be never ending, and the conservative making the comment would have his career utterly ruined. You know it, and I know it.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part IX 

Post#162 » by TGW » Tue Apr 5, 2016 5:34 pm

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nate33 wrote:"Chimp ass" is a far cry from "she should be gang raped".


so a racial slur isn't as bad as a rape slur? You sound like a whiny liberal nate.

One is a threat of violence, or at least a call for others to commit violence. (And it also happened to be a racial slur since Azalea seemed to be so fixated on Palin being raped by black men.) Nugent's crack was merely and idiotic insult. If you can't distinguish between the two, you are not being intellectually honest. As I said before, the outcry if the situation was reversed would be never ending, and the conservative making the comment would have his career utterly ruined. You know it, and I know it.


are you ignoring the "hung" part on purpose? not sure whether to take you seriously or not.
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Post#163 » by JWizmentality » Tue Apr 5, 2016 5:53 pm

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nate33 wrote:"Chimp ass" is a far cry from "she should be gang raped".


so a racial slur isn't as bad as a rape slur? You sound like a whiny liberal nate.

One is a threat of violence, or at least a call for others to commit violence. (And it also happened to be a racial slur since Azalea seemed to be so fixated on Palin being raped by black men.) Nugent's crack was merely and idiotic insult. If you can't distinguish between the two, you are not being intellectually honest. As I said before, the outcry if the situation was reversed would be never ending, and the conservative making the comment would have his career utterly ruined. You know it, and I know it.

You're talking about intellectual honesty while trying to find moral equivalency between two reprehensible comments made by two reprehensible people? You sir, smart as you are, cannot be that naive.

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Re: Political Roundtable Part IX 

Post#164 » by pcbothwel » Tue Apr 5, 2016 7:06 pm

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so a racial slur isn't as bad as a rape slur? You sound like a whiny liberal nate.

One is a threat of violence, or at least a call for others to commit violence. (And it also happened to be a racial slur since Azalea seemed to be so fixated on Palin being raped by black men.) Nugent's crack was merely and idiotic insult. If you can't distinguish between the two, you are not being intellectually honest. As I said before, the outcry if the situation was reversed would be never ending, and the conservative making the comment would have his career utterly ruined. You know it, and I know it.


are you ignoring the "hung" part on purpose? not sure whether to take you seriously or not.


He called Clinton a chimpass, not Obama. And saying Obama and Clinton should be hung for treason is not a reference to lynching black people, its a reference to hanging those convicted of treason
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Re: Political Roundtable Part IX 

Post#165 » by AFM » Tue Apr 5, 2016 7:19 pm

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so a racial slur isn't as bad as a rape slur? You sound like a whiny liberal nate.

One is a threat of violence, or at least a call for others to commit violence. (And it also happened to be a racial slur since Azalea seemed to be so fixated on Palin being raped by black men.) Nugent's crack was merely and idiotic insult. If you can't distinguish between the two, you are not being intellectually honest. As I said before, the outcry if the situation was reversed would be never ending, and the conservative making the comment would have his career utterly ruined. You know it, and I know it.


are you ignoring the "hung" part on purpose? not sure whether to take you seriously or not.


hung as in well hung. We all know brutha's are bigger than average.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part IX 

Post#166 » by TGW » Tue Apr 5, 2016 7:21 pm

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nate33 wrote:One is a threat of violence, or at least a call for others to commit violence. (And it also happened to be a racial slur since Azalea seemed to be so fixated on Palin being raped by black men.) Nugent's crack was merely and idiotic insult. If you can't distinguish between the two, you are not being intellectually honest. As I said before, the outcry if the situation was reversed would be never ending, and the conservative making the comment would have his career utterly ruined. You know it, and I know it.


are you ignoring the "hung" part on purpose? not sure whether to take you seriously or not.


He called Clinton a chimpass, not Obama. And saying Obama and Clinton should be hung for treason is not a reference to lynching black people, its a reference to hanging those convicted of treason


Give me a break...he's already called Obama a "chimpanzee" and said Obama "should suck on his machine gun." :lol:

But he was talking about Clinton? Right, buddy. I find it sad as hell that you right wingers are so quick to defend known racists like Nugent.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part IX 

Post#167 » by AFM » Tue Apr 5, 2016 7:23 pm

nate33 wrote:Rapper Azealia Banks Calls for Sarah Palin to Be Gang-Raped by Black Men:

http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2016/04/04/rapper-azealia-banks-calls-sarah-palin-gang-raped-black-men/

Of course there will be no consequences, no condemnation at all. Her career will go on. Imagine if, say, Toby Keith said that Carol Moseley Braun should be gang raped by skinheads.


Are you just now discovering the double standard? Black people can't be racist against white people because... DuHhhRrr

Imagine if you, I, and monte filmed a white boy KKK version of this:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXa-j6QIK8k[/youtube]

We gotta fully loaded llama, for Obama!

Probably wouldn't go over too well.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part IX 

Post#168 » by TGW » Tue Apr 5, 2016 8:01 pm

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nate33 wrote:Rapper Azealia Banks Calls for Sarah Palin to Be Gang-Raped by Black Men:

http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2016/04/04/rapper-azealia-banks-calls-sarah-palin-gang-raped-black-men/

Of course there will be no consequences, no condemnation at all. Her career will go on. Imagine if, say, Toby Keith said that Carol Moseley Braun should be gang raped by skinheads.


Are you just now discovering the double standard? Black people can't be racist against white people because... DuHhhRrr

Imagine if you, I, and monte filmed a white boy KKK version of this:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXa-j6QIK8k[/youtube]

We gotta fully loaded llama, for Obama!

Probably wouldn't go over too well.


Go back to being a troll AFM. You're better at that.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part IX 

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Re: Political Roundtable Part IX 

Post#171 » by AFM » Tue Apr 5, 2016 8:41 pm

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Re: Political Roundtable Part IX 

Post#172 » by Zonkerbl » Tue Apr 5, 2016 8:42 pm

Why do you care? Yes, it's much worse for, say, Hitler to say bad things about Jews than it is for Jews to say bad things about Hitler.

It's just common sense. A powerful person talking crap about a powerless person is a coward and an ahole. The same is not true the other way around.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part IX 

Post#173 » by nate33 » Tue Apr 5, 2016 9:04 pm

Zonkerbl wrote:Why do you care? Yes, it's much worse for, say, Hitler to say bad things about Jews than it is for Jews to say bad things about Hitler.

It's just common sense. A powerful person talking crap about a powerless person is a coward and an ahole. The same is not true the other way around.

You are saying that punching up is okay but punching down is bad. I reject this argument.

The problem is, who gets to define up or down?
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Political Roundtable Part IX 

Post#174 » by TGW » Tue Apr 5, 2016 9:20 pm

Zonkerbl wrote:Why do you care? Yes, it's much worse for, say, Hitler to say bad things about Jews than it is for Jews to say bad things about Hitler.

It's just common sense. A powerful person talking crap about a powerless person is a coward and an ahole. The same is not true the other way around.


You know, you would think that would be common sense for most people. Sadly it's not.

"Racism" from black people is relegated to name calling and anecdotal situations. That's a lot different from, let's say, the Dothan Alabama police planting drugs and guns on black males since the 90's with no repercussions.

Well A Fukking Moron found a YouTube video of some random kid making a rap song threatening Trump...yea that's equivalent to paid NRA thug Ted Nugent spewing his racist beliefs in public.



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Political Roundtable Part IX 

Post#175 » by TGW » Tue Apr 5, 2016 9:22 pm

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Zonkerbl wrote:Why do you care? Yes, it's much worse for, say, Hitler to say bad things about Jews than it is for Jews to say bad things about Hitler.

It's just common sense. A powerful person talking crap about a powerless person is a coward and an ahole. The same is not true the other way around.

You are saying that punching up is okay but punching down is bad. I reject this argument.

The problem is, who gets to define up or down?


One group is jabbing. The other one is throwing Mike Tyson haymakers.



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Re: Political Roundtable Part IX 

Post#176 » by dckingsfan » Tue Apr 5, 2016 11:58 pm

I think another way to say it is - racism is a bad thing regardless. AFM's point is in the US it goes both ways - also not good.

But when an institution or person in power is racist and makes the step to air those views or act on those views either overtly or covertly, much more harm is done.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part IX 

Post#177 » by AFM » Wed Apr 6, 2016 1:31 am

My post had nothing to do with Ted Nugent, genius. I was quoting Nate's post about Azelia Banks....a rapper.... :roll:
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Re: Political Roundtable Part IX 

Post#178 » by AFM » Wed Apr 6, 2016 3:17 am

On a completely unrelated note...

Gap has been force to remove this ad and issue an apology... since it's...wait for it..."racist"

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Re: Political Roundtable Part IX 

Post#179 » by pineappleheadindc » Wed Apr 6, 2016 3:20 am

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Re: Political Roundtable Part IX 

Post#180 » by AFM » Wed Apr 6, 2016 3:22 am

I've had a really bad month, and facebook jamming these news stories down my throat doesn't help

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