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E-Balla wrote:Also he can't shoot now? Watch a game or at least look at a shot chart. He's a 20 year old C shooting 69% on freethrows, 38% on jumpshots, 33% from 10+ feet out, and 38% from 10 feet out after they traded for Ish.
EvanZ wrote:E-Balla wrote:Also he can't shoot now? Watch a game or at least look at a shot chart. He's a 20 year old C shooting 69% on freethrows, 38% on jumpshots, 33% from 10+ feet out, and 38% from 10 feet out after they traded for Ish.
Sorry, which of these numbers is supposed to be good?
As for defense, he is ranked 78 out of 79 centers in DRPM (better than Kanter though!).
He's pretty much exactly what people like me said he would be. A can't shoot, no defense, plodding dinosaur.
tsherkin wrote:The important thing to take away here is that Klomp is wrong.
Esohny wrote:Why are you asking Klomp? "He's" actually a bot that posts random blurbs from a database.
Klomp wrote:I'm putting the tired in retired mod at the moment
Klomp wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/Twolves_PR/status/718230931694362626[/tweet]
E-Balla wrote:EvanZ wrote:E-Balla wrote:Also he can't shoot now? Watch a game or at least look at a shot chart. He's a 20 year old C shooting 69% on freethrows, 38% on jumpshots, 33% from 10+ feet out, and 38% from 10 feet out after they traded for Ish.
Sorry, which of these numbers is supposed to be good?
As for defense, he is ranked 78 out of 79 centers in DRPM (better than Kanter though!).
He's pretty much exactly what people like me said he would be. A can't shoot, no defense, plodding dinosaur.
You're right he'll never improve his shot or get any better. Thanks for your invaluable insight.
EvanZ wrote:E-Balla wrote:EvanZ wrote:
Sorry, which of these numbers is supposed to be good?
As for defense, he is ranked 78 out of 79 centers in DRPM (better than Kanter though!).
He's pretty much exactly what people like me said he would be. A can't shoot, no defense, plodding dinosaur.
You're right he'll never improve his shot or get any better. Thanks for your invaluable insight.
You do realize you could apply this logic to every player ever, right? I mean, if you've watched enough basketball, you would realize that not every player ever becomes better at everything. This makes your "insight" meaningless. Telling me that he will improve because...well, because.
Stop committing this fallacy of false hope. It doesn't help anyone. Yes, he might improve. No, it's not a certainty. It's as a good a chance as any random player ever.
What I do know right now, is that he is not a shooter or defender. Wake me when either of those changes.
E-Balla wrote:EvanZ wrote:E-Balla wrote:You're right he'll never improve his shot or get any better. Thanks for your invaluable insight.
You do realize you could apply this logic to every player ever, right? I mean, if you've watched enough basketball, you would realize that not every player ever becomes better at everything. This makes your "insight" meaningless. Telling me that he will improve because...well, because.
Stop committing this fallacy of false hope. It doesn't help anyone. Yes, he might improve. No, it's not a certainty. It's as a good a chance as any random player ever.
What I do know right now, is that he is not a shooter or defender. Wake me when either of those changes.
The point was that for a 20 year old C his shot wasn't bad and it was vastly improved over Duke and his high school career (just look at his FT%). No one is projecting he'll improve his jumper after he hasn't I'm projecting he'll improve his jumper after seeing his FT% jump 18 points and his jumper improve a lot over last year. If you aren't in the business of making any type of projections why are you even discussing them as prospects.
EvanZ wrote:E-Balla wrote:EvanZ wrote:
You do realize you could apply this logic to every player ever, right? I mean, if you've watched enough basketball, you would realize that not every player ever becomes better at everything. This makes your "insight" meaningless. Telling me that he will improve because...well, because.
Stop committing this fallacy of false hope. It doesn't help anyone. Yes, he might improve. No, it's not a certainty. It's as a good a chance as any random player ever.
What I do know right now, is that he is not a shooter or defender. Wake me when either of those changes.
The point was that for a 20 year old C his shot wasn't bad and it was vastly improved over Duke and his high school career (just look at his FT%). No one is projecting he'll improve his jumper after he hasn't I'm projecting he'll improve his jumper after seeing his FT% jump 18 points and his jumper improve a lot over last year. If you aren't in the business of making any type of projections why are you even discussing them as prospects.
I'm not going to project that a 69% FT shooter becomes a good mid-range shooter. And in today's game, that's not enough. If you're a big, you need to be an elite mid-range shooter, otherwise you're just going to hurt your team on offense.
Ok you believe that.
QUIZ wrote:
tsherkin wrote:The important thing to take away here is that Klomp is wrong.
Esohny wrote:Why are you asking Klomp? "He's" actually a bot that posts random blurbs from a database.
Klomp wrote:I'm putting the tired in retired mod at the moment
EvanZ wrote:E-Balla wrote:Also he can't shoot now? Watch a game or at least look at a shot chart. He's a 20 year old C shooting 69% on freethrows, 38% on jumpshots, 33% from 10+ feet out, and 38% from 10 feet out after they traded for Ish.
Sorry, which of these numbers is supposed to be good?
As for defense, he is ranked 78 out of 79 centers in DRPM (better than Kanter though!).
He's pretty much exactly what people like me said he would be. A can't shoot, no defense, plodding dinosaur.
FinNasty wrote:How can you not just absolutely love Josh Richardson man. Kid is great at 3 and D... and just completely pulverises the rim lol...
Love this kid!
FinNasty wrote:How can you not just absolutely love Josh Richardson man. Kid is great at 3 and D... and just completely pulverises the rim lol...
Love this kid!
islanders11040 wrote:FinNasty wrote:How can you not just absolutely love Josh Richardson man. Kid is great at 3 and D... and just completely pulverises the rim lol...
Love this kid!
Havent watched him play much yet. Do any heat fans see him having a better career than Winslow? I see that they are the same size.
iamworthy wrote:DLo has been pretty horrible lately but:
[tweet]https://twitter.com/lakersreporter/status/717931429452128256[/tweet]
islanders11040 wrote:FinNasty wrote:How can you not just absolutely love Josh Richardson man. Kid is great at 3 and D... and just completely pulverises the rim lol...
Love this kid!
Havent watched him play much yet. Do any heat fans see him having a better career than Winslow? I see that they are the same size.
FinNasty wrote:How can you not just absolutely love Josh Richardson man. Kid is great at 3 and D... and just completely pulverises the rim lol...
Love this kid!
dub81 wrote:Byron had to do one of two things this year: Either win games or develop the youth. Swung and missed wildly on both.