Why does Hinkie get so much flak, but Suns are even more of joke?

[bigmandinky]

The Suns are written off as incompetence. Hinkie gets flak because he set out to produce garbage, and basically turned the franchise into a joke. It's one thing to lose on purpose. It's another thing to embarrass your franchise and the league in one go. That's what **** him ultimately.

Enjoy your Raptors Finals title this year....oh wait, you're an overrated fake-good, treadmill team with no shot in hell at winning the title. Enjoy being stuck at this position for the next 5-10 years.

LOL, Raptors actually have better young talent than the Sixers (plus a top 10 pick this year too) to go along with a top 5 record in the NBA. Demar is also only 26 too.

JV, Powell, Ross, Joseph, Wright, Bruno, Bebe >> Sixers

[Novocaine]

1. No, he's not just not a star, he got a pick for him that's vastly greater than his on court value to anyone.

2. Well, if his teams were worst in the league the last 2 years, maybe he'd have Wiggins or KAT.

3. No, but after you rambled in every post, I stopped reading everything.

All that said, you're the cute one with the condescension. I'd say tone it down. Because attacks aren't good.

1- Yeah, he's not a star, he was traded. You agree with me.

2- Yeah, but Flip Saunders was a genius.

3. So you misleadingly make a partial quote of my sentence and now say you didn't read everything? Have some decency. Winning an internet discussion that nobody cares about isn't a good enough reason to diminish yourself like that. Who on earth selectively edits a quotation, leaving aside most of the sentence, to pretend their interlocutor said something he didn't say? How do you feel for doing that, for behaving in such a childish fashion? You sound like Stalin deleting the purged comrades of the official pictures.

Anyway, I think the issue is settled. If you were right, you wouldn't have to pick 3 words out of an entire paragraph, pretend they were standing alone and completely reverse what I said on the paragraph. If you had any sort of integrity, you'd apologize for selectively editing my quote to mislead about what I said, but it's fine either way: you wouldn't do that if you had a serious argument to make; I think we can safely close this one.

No, no and no.
1. He was bad and traded. You want them to have good players.
2. He traded Kevin freakin Love.
3. Wow, I'm done here. You're just blatantly attacking others now, but have a great night and keep it up.

The issue is settled, you've managed to create some world in which you're right and can attack others freely. Don't even quote me because I'm done here. You've shown a lack of understanding and offended others too, well done.

1 - Nonsense. He was better than all. or almost all, his teammates. He was traded because he wasn't and would never be a star, but he was good enough to hurt their tanking. I mean, he even let Ish Smith walk for nothing to preserve the record.

2 - I know, what is your point? A propos of Love, I said this in another thread about Hinkie - if David Kahn was a better conman, he'd have traded Pekovic, Love and Rubio on their 2nd, 3rd years, claiming they weren't good enough to build a contender around (which would be mostly true), and tank again. It'd be a lot easier for him -nobody blames you for being bad at evaluating 2nd rounders or picking consensus BPA in the top5- and for Hinkie supporters, he'd still have a job.

3- Again, don't play the victim. You purposely misquoted me. You selective quoted 3 words out of an entire paragraph to accuse me of saying the opposite I said.

I could do that too:

I can attack others freely

See? Now, if I were you, I'd accuse you of saying you can attack others freely and present the above quote as evidence.

That's what you did, won't apologize for it and then accuse me of attacking you for pointing it out.

[bondom34]

1- Yeah, he's not a star, he was traded. You agree with me.

2- Yeah, but Flip Saunders was a genius.

3. So you misleadingly make a partial quote of my sentence and now say you didn't read everything? Have some decency. Winning an internet discussion that nobody cares about isn't a good enough reason to diminish yourself like that. Who on earth selectively edits a quotation, leaving aside most of the sentence, to pretend their interlocutor said something he didn't say? How do you feel for doing that, for behaving in such a childish fashion? You sound like Stalin deleting the purged comrades of the official pictures.

Anyway, I think the issue is settled. If you were right, you wouldn't have to pick 3 words out of an entire paragraph, pretend they were standing alone and completely reverse what I said on the paragraph. If you had any sort of integrity, you'd apologize for selectively editing my quote to mislead about what I said, but it's fine either way: you wouldn't do that if you had a serious argument to make; I think we can safely close this one.

No, no and no.
1. He was bad and traded. You want them to have good players.
2. He traded Kevin freakin Love.
3. Wow, I'm done here. You're just blatantly attacking others now, but have a great night and keep it up.

The issue is settled, you've managed to create some world in which you're right and can attack others freely. Don't even quote me because I'm done here. You've shown a lack of understanding and offended others too, well done.

1 - Nonsense. He was better than all. or almost all, his teammates. He was traded because he wasn't and would never be a star, but he was good enough to hurt their tanking. I mean, he even let Ish Smith walk for nothing to preserve the record.

2 - I know, what is your point? A propos of Love, I said this in another thread about Hinkie - if David Kahn was a better conman, he'd have traded Pekovic, Love and Rubio on their 2nd, 3rd years, claiming they weren't good enough to build a contender around (which would be mostly true), and tank again. It'd be a lot easier for him -nobody blames you for being bad at evaluating 2nd rounders or picking consensus BPA in the top5- and for Hinkie supporters, he'd still have a job.

3- Again, don't play the victim. You purposely misquoted me. You selective quoted 3 words out of an entire paragraph to accuse me of saying the opposite I said.

I could do that too:

I can attack others freely[/quote}

See? Now, if I were you, I'd accuse you of saying you can attack others freely and present the above quote as evidence.

That's what you did, won't apologize for it and then accuse me of attacking you for pointing it out.

You compared someone to Stalin. Dude, go away. This is childish and annoying. Ididn't misquote on purpose. And I'm not relying to 1 and 2 because I'm done here and don't care to read how wrong they are. I'm just reporting the attacks and letting it go.

[Novocaine]

No, no and no.
1. He was bad and traded. You want them to have good players.
2. He traded Kevin freakin Love.
3. Wow, I'm done here. You're just blatantly attacking others now, but have a great night and keep it up.

The issue is settled, you've managed to create some world in which you're right and can attack others freely. Don't even quote me because I'm done here. You've shown a lack of understanding and offended others too, well done.

1 - Nonsense. He was better than all. or almost all, his teammates. He was traded because he wasn't and would never be a star, but he was good enough to hurt their tanking. I mean, he even let Ish Smith walk for nothing to preserve the record.

2 - I know, what is your point? A propos of Love, I said this in another thread about Hinkie - if David Kahn was a better conman, he'd have traded Pekovic, Love and Rubio on their 2nd, 3rd years, claiming they weren't good enough to build a contender around (which would be mostly true), and tank again. It'd be a lot easier for him -nobody blames you for being bad at evaluating 2nd rounders or picking consensus BPA in the top5- and for Hinkie supporters, he'd still have a job.

3- Again, don't play the victim. You purposely misquoted me. You selective quoted 3 words out of an entire paragraph to accuse me of saying the opposite I said.

I could do that too:

I can attack others freely[/quote}

See? Now, if I were you, I'd accuse you of saying you can attack others freely and present the above quote as evidence.

That's what you did, won't apologize for it and then accuse me of attacking you for pointing it out.

You compared me to Stalin. Dude, go away.

Yeah, it might surprise you but it's fairly common historical reference. I wasn't comparing you to Staline - not accusing you of being a communist and genocidal- rather what you did by selectively and falsely quoting me to mislead and lie about what I actually had said with a certain stalinist tactics. It was an analogy of techniques, not of people, obviously. I'm sorry if you somehow believed in that. If it makes you more comfortable, I might compare what you did with what conmen and falsifiers do?

[Hook_Em]

The Suns have 3 first rounders this year, all their own picks going forward and two future Miami picks that are unprotected plus the current roster is closer to winning when healthy. I don't see how the situations are comparable.

[bondom34]

1 - Nonsense. He was better than all. or almost all, his teammates. He was traded because he wasn't and would never be a star, but he was good enough to hurt their tanking. I mean, he even let Ish Smith walk for nothing to preserve the record.

2 - I know, what is your point? A propos of Love, I said this in another thread about Hinkie - if David Kahn was a better conman, he'd have traded Pekovic, Love and Rubio on their 2nd, 3rd years, claiming they weren't good enough to build a contender around (which would be mostly true), and tank again. It'd be a lot easier for him -nobody blames you for being bad at evaluating 2nd rounders or picking consensus BPA in the top5- and for Hinkie supporters, he'd still have a job.

3- Again, don't play the victim. You purposely misquoted me. You selective quoted 3 words out of an entire paragraph to accuse me of saying the opposite I said.

I could do that too:

You compared me to Stalin. Dude, go away.

Yeah, it might surprise you but it's fairly common historical reference. I wasn't comparing you to Staline - not accusing you of being a communist and genocidal- rather what you did by selectively and falsely quoting me to mislead and lie about what I actually had said with a certain stalinist tactics. It was an analogy of techniques, not of people, obviously. I'm sorry if you somehow believed in that. If it makes you more comfortable, I might compare what you did with what conmen and falsifiers do?

You also attacked another poster earlier and me in another post. Let it go.

Good night.

[Novocaine]

Ididn't misquote on purpose..

I don't believe you. In that case, why didn't you simply apologize for misquoting, or just corrected the record and admitted that I was right and moved on? I mean, that's what I assumed at first, but you reacted with sarcasm and condescension, accusing me of "rambling" and whatnot?

And nobody has attacked you. Get over yourself. You completely lie about what I said and when I pointed out your selective quotation was like deleting people from photos like Stalin did, you start screeching that I called you Stalin. For someone as insulting as you are, you're very easily offended.

[bondom34]

Ididn't misquote on purpose..

I don't believe you. In that case, why didn't you simply apologize for misquoting, or just corrected the record and admitted that I was right and moved on? I mean, that's what I assumed at first, but you reacted with sarcasm and condescension, accusing me of "rambling" and whatnot?

And nobody has attacked you. Get over yourself. You completely lie about what I said and when I pointed out your selective quotation was like deleting people from photos like Stalin did, you start screeching that I called you Stalin. For someone as insulting as you are, you're very easily offended.

I didn't misquote you. I quoted the whole post. Leave it alone, you're wrong. Bye bye.

[Novocaine]

Ididn't misquote on purpose..

I don't believe you. In that case, why didn't you simply apologize for misquoting, or just corrected the record and admitted that I was right and moved on? I mean, that's what I assumed at first, but you reacted with sarcasm and condescension, accusing me of "rambling" and whatnot?

And nobody has attacked you. Get over yourself. You completely lie about what I said and when I pointed out your selective quotation was like deleting people from photos like Stalin did, you start screeching that I called you Stalin. For someone as insulting as you are, you're very easily offended.

I didn't misquote you. I quoted the whole post. Leave it alone, you're wrong. Bye bye.

You, literally 2 minutes ago:

Ididn't misquote on purpose..

You now:

I didn't misquote you...

At first you seemed to say that you didn't misquote me on purpose. Not you seem to claim you didn't misquote me tout court?

Well, you quoted me saying "rinse and repeat" and claiming I was stating "rinse and repeat indefinitely". I actually said "rinse and repeat, until x happens" which is the exact opposite of "rinse and repeat indefinitely" - but you simply erased the "until x happens" out of existence and pretended I had just written "rinse and repeat".

To me, that sounds very misleading and dishonest.

Then you claimed it was accident and you didn't do it on purpose. Fair enough. I was ready to let it go.

Now you claim it didn't even happen?

Heheh.

Seems like someone needs some growing up.

[bondom34]

I don't believe you. In that case, why didn't you simply apologize for misquoting, or just corrected the record and admitted that I was right and moved on? I mean, that's what I assumed at first, but you reacted with sarcasm and condescension, accusing me of "rambling" and whatnot?

And nobody has attacked you. Get over yourself. You completely lie about what I said and when I pointed out your selective quotation was like deleting people from photos like Stalin did, you start screeching that I called you Stalin. For someone as insulting as you are, you're very easily offended.

I didn't misquote you. I quoted the whole post. Leave it alone, you're wrong. Bye bye.

You, literally 2 minutes ago:

Ididn't misquote on purpose..

You now:

I didn't misquote you...

At first you seemed to say that you didn't misquote me on purpose. Not you seem to claim you didn't misquote me tout court?

Well, you quoted me saying "rinse and repeat" and claiming I was stating "rinse and repeat indefinitely". I actually said "rinse and repeat, until x happens" which is the exact opposite of "rinse and repeat indefinitely" - but you simply erased the "until x happens" out of existence and pretended I had just written "rinse and repeat".

To me, that sounds very misleading and dishonest.

Then you claimed it was accident and you didn't do it on purpose. Fair enough. I was ready to let it go.

Now you claim it didn't even happen?

Heheh.

Seems like someone needs some growing up.

Yes, you.

I didn't misquote you at all. To me it sounds like I misspoke and you don't know what quoting is, leading to a misunderstanding. But that' would require actual thought from you, which seems beyond.

Do not quote me please. Because at this point this has gone from a disagreement to me totally dreading having to read whatever giberish is there.

[useless]

Hey 76ers fans could you explain to us those ignorant and uninformed by-passers why such innovative and intelligent GM was fired? According to you Hinkie got all support from fans, management, owners and players.
Was this a conspiracy by Colangelo and Hinkie a young gun just did not know how to react?
In fact in the first place why the heck Colangelo was hired if Hinkie did a good job?
Why younger Colangelo was hired as GM? This guy has a bad history as GM.
Are 76ers owners such incompetent?

[Novocaine]

I didn't misquote you. I quoted the whole post. Leave it alone, you're wrong. Bye bye.

You, literally 2 minutes ago:

Ididn't misquote on purpose..

You now:

I didn't misquote you...

At first you seemed to say that you didn't misquote me on purpose. Not you seem to claim you didn't misquote me tout court?

Well, you quoted me saying "rinse and repeat" and claiming I was stating "rinse and repeat indefinitely". I actually said "rinse and repeat, until x happens" which is the exact opposite of "rinse and repeat indefinitely" - but you simply erased the "until x happens" out of existence and pretended I had just written "rinse and repeat".

To me, that sounds very misleading and dishonest.

Then you claimed it was accident and you didn't do it on purpose. Fair enough. I was ready to let it go.

Now you claim it didn't even happen?

Heheh.

Seems like someone needs some growing up.

Yes, you.

I didn't misquote you at all. To me it sounds like I misspoke and you don't know what quoting is, leading to a misunderstanding. But that' would require actual thought from you, which seems beyond.

Do not quote me please. Because at this point this has gone from a disagreement to me totally dreading having to read whatever giberish is there.

Oh, you misspoke? And that lead to a misunderstanding? Well, that's a new angle, but fair enough. I don't understand why you simply didn't apologize and corrected the record right away. It'd avoid all that misunderstanding. I mean, when you falsely accused me of comparing you with Stalin in those over-emotional frenzied tones, I immediately clarified that wasn't the case and offered an apology if you needed one. You should have done the same instead of calling me names and resorting to sarcasm and aggressiveness. Anyway, misspeaking happens, it's no big deal.

No need to get nasty though. "that' would require actual thought from you, which seems beyond"? " having to read whatever giberish is there"? You can disagree with someone without resorting to that low-level stuff. Very unbecoming. Shame. I think you should try to remain civil instead of always resorting to those petty insults. You're better than that. Anyway, you do you. I'll remain polite and not respond in kind, be assured.

p.s - please, consider not changing the "I misspoke" story. We're already on the 4th different excuse you give for what you did when you lied repeatedly about what I said and it's getting late. I think the "misspeaking" is a good one and you should definitely stick to it.

[bondom34]

You, literally 2 minutes ago:



You now:



At first you seemed to say that you didn't misquote me on purpose. Not you seem to claim you didn't misquote me tout court?

Well, you quoted me saying "rinse and repeat" and claiming I was stating "rinse and repeat indefinitely". I actually said "rinse and repeat, until x happens" which is the exact opposite of "rinse and repeat indefinitely" - but you simply erased the "until x happens" out of existence and pretended I had just written "rinse and repeat".

To me, that sounds very misleading and dishonest.

Then you claimed it was accident and you didn't do it on purpose. Fair enough. I was ready to let it go.

Now you claim it didn't even happen?

Heheh.

Seems like someone needs some growing up.

Yes, you.

I didn't misquote you at all. To me it sounds like I misspoke and you don't know what quoting is, leading to a misunderstanding. But that' would require actual thought from you, which seems beyond.

Do not quote me please. Because at this point this has gone from a disagreement to me totally dreading having to read whatever giberish is there.

Oh, you misspoke? And that lead to a misunderstanding? Well, that's a new angle, but fair enough. I don't understand why you simply didn't apologize and corrected the record right away. It'd avoid all that misunderstanding. I mean, when you falsely accused me of comparing you with Stalin in those over-emotional frenzied tones, I immediately clarified that wasn't the case and offered an apology if you needed one. You should have done the same instead of calling me names and resorting to sarcasm and aggressiveness. Anyway, misspeaking happens, it's no big deal.

No need to get nasty though. "that' would require actual thought from you, which seems beyond"? " having to read whatever giberish is there"? You can disagree with someone without resorting to that low-level stuff. Very unbecoming. Shame. I think you should try to remain civil instead of always resorting to those petty insults. You're better than that. Anyway, you do you. I'll remain polite and not respond in kind, be assured.

p.s - please, consider not changing the "I misspoke" story. We're already on the 4th different excuse you give for what you did when you lied repeatedly about what I said and it's getting late. I think the "misspeaking" is a good one and you should definitely stick to it.

You know something, you're right. I entirely change all my thoughts and opinions to align with yours. To add, anything I misspoke or you misunderstood is entirely my fault even if totally obvious. In addition to that your incredible rudeness and attacks are not your fault but in fact the fault of others. I apologize for all the planet for not realizing your complete and total perfection.

[Novocaine]

Yes, you.

I didn't misquote you at all. To me it sounds like I misspoke and you don't know what quoting is, leading to a misunderstanding. But that' would require actual thought from you, which seems beyond.

Do not quote me please. Because at this point this has gone from a disagreement to me totally dreading having to read whatever giberish is there.

Oh, you misspoke? And that lead to a misunderstanding? Well, that's a new angle, but fair enough. I don't understand why you simply didn't apologize and corrected the record right away. It'd avoid all that misunderstanding. I mean, when you falsely accused me of comparing you with Stalin in those over-emotional frenzied tones, I immediately clarified that wasn't the case and offered an apology if you needed one. You should have done the same instead of calling me names and resorting to sarcasm and aggressiveness. Anyway, misspeaking happens, it's no big deal.

No need to get nasty though. "that' would require actual thought from you, which seems beyond"? " having to read whatever giberish is there"? You can disagree with someone without resorting to that low-level stuff. Very unbecoming. Shame. I think you should try to remain civil instead of always resorting to those petty insults. You're better than that. Anyway, you do you. I'll remain polite and not respond in kind, be assured.

p.s - please, consider not changing the "I misspoke" story. We're already on the 4th different excuse you give for what you did when you lied repeatedly about what I said and it's getting late. I think the "misspeaking" is a good one and you should definitely stick to it.

You know something, you're right. I entirely change all my thoughts and opinions to align with yours. To add, anything I misspoke or you misunderstood is entirely my fault even if totally obvious. In addition to that your incredible rudeness and attacks are not your fault but in fact the fault of others. I apologize for all the planet for not realizing your complete and total perfection.

That's just juvenile sarcasm, all the way to the emoji. What's the point? You're getting way too over-emotional with this. Anyway, I'm here to talk basketball - I'm still curious on why people like you think the rest of the league pressured the 76ers to fire Hinkie if you don't believe/understand the collective action problem, but you seem more interested on being nasty and personally offensive so let me know if you're back to proper basketball discussions.

[bondom34]

Oh, you misspoke? And that lead to a misunderstanding? Well, that's a new angle, but fair enough. I don't understand why you simply didn't apologize and corrected the record right away. It'd avoid all that misunderstanding. I mean, when you falsely accused me of comparing you with Stalin in those over-emotional frenzied tones, I immediately clarified that wasn't the case and offered an apology if you needed one. You should have done the same instead of calling me names and resorting to sarcasm and aggressiveness. Anyway, misspeaking happens, it's no big deal.

No need to get nasty though. "that' would require actual thought from you, which seems beyond"? " having to read whatever giberish is there"? You can disagree with someone without resorting to that low-level stuff. Very unbecoming. Shame. I think you should try to remain civil instead of always resorting to those petty insults. You're better than that. Anyway, you do you. I'll remain polite and not respond in kind, be assured.

p.s - please, consider not changing the "I misspoke" story. We're already on the 4th different excuse you give for what you did when you lied repeatedly about what I said and it's getting late. I think the "misspeaking" is a good one and you should definitely stick to it.

You know something, you're right. I entirely change all my thoughts and opinions to align with yours. To add, anything I misspoke or you misunderstood is entirely my fault even if totally obvious. In addition to that your incredible rudeness and attacks are not your fault but in fact the fault of others. I apologize for all the planet for not realizing your complete and total perfection.

That's just juvenile sarcasm, all the way to the emoji. What's the point? You're getting way too over-emotional with this. Anyway, I'm here to talk basketball - I'm still curious on why people like you think the rest of the league pressured the 76ers to fire Hinkie if you don't believe/understand the collective action problem, but you seem more interested on being nasty and personally offensive so let me know if you're back to proper basketball discussions.

You know something, you're right. I entirely change all my thoughts and opinions to align with yours. To add, anything I misspoke or you misunderstood is entirely my fault even if totally obvious. In addition to that your incredible rudeness and attacks are not your fault but in fact the fault of others. I apologize for all the planet for not realizing your complete and total perfection.

[Novocaine]

You know something, you're right. I entirely change all my thoughts and opinions to align with yours. To add, anything I misspoke or you misunderstood is entirely my fault even if totally obvious. In addition to that your incredible rudeness and attacks are not your fault but in fact the fault of others. I apologize for all the planet for not realizing your complete and total perfection.

That's just juvenile sarcasm, all the way to the emoji. What's the point? You're getting way too over-emotional with this. Anyway, I'm here to talk basketball - I'm still curious on why people like you think the rest of the league pressured the 76ers to fire Hinkie if you don't believe/understand the collective action problem, but you seem more interested on being nasty and personally offensive so let me know if you're back to proper basketball discussions.

You know something, you're right. I entirely change all my thoughts and opinions to align with yours. To add, anything I misspoke or you misunderstood is entirely my fault even if totally obvious. In addition to that your incredible rudeness and attacks are not your fault but in fact the fault of others. I apologize for all the planet for not realizing your complete and total perfection.

Are you just copy pasting the same thing? That's just spamming and makes one lose time checking the notification or opening the topic. Geez...

[bondom34]

That's just juvenile sarcasm, all the way to the emoji. What's the point? You're getting way too over-emotional with this. Anyway, I'm here to talk basketball - I'm still curious on why people like you think the rest of the league pressured the 76ers to fire Hinkie if you don't believe/understand the collective action problem, but you seem more interested on being nasty and personally offensive so let me know if you're back to proper basketball discussions.

You know something, you're right. I entirely change all my thoughts and opinions to align with yours. To add, anything I misspoke or you misunderstood is entirely my fault even if totally obvious. In addition to that your incredible rudeness and attacks are not your fault but in fact the fault of others. I apologize for all the planet for not realizing your complete and total perfection.

Are you just copy pasting the same thing? That's just spamming and makes one lose time checking the notification or opening the topic. Geez...

You know something, you're right. I entirely change all my thoughts and opinions to align with yours. To add, anything I misspoke or you misunderstood is entirely my fault even if totally obvious. In addition to that your incredible rudeness and attacks are not your fault but in fact the fault of others. I apologize for all the planet for not realizing your complete and total perfection.

[DusterBuster]

Hinkie's 76ers have won a total of like 43 games in the past 3 years under his tenure as their GM.

Also, the Suns get plenty of flack for having a piss poor FO. Their FO has been a joke for awhile now though, so people generally just don't even think about them very much.

[Novocaine]

You know something, you're right. I entirely change all my thoughts and opinions to align with yours.

You're copying pasting the same stuff. Why are you doing that? It's just a silly snarky paragraph. Stop doing that, please.

Anyway, my thoughts and opinions are simple:

- Hinkie was fired when Jerry Colangelo was hired. This was just him giving up the business card.

- there's nothing difficult to understand about what Hinkie was doing. The idea anyone vaguely familiar with the NBA would fail to understand it is laughable.

- his strategy would always be successful if a) given enough time b) other parties don't start replicating it.

- those two points above create a huge collective action problem in the NBA, hence there's a tacit understanding to not do what Hinkie was doing. He somehow thought he was immune to that, which lead to the other teams forcing his team owners to fire him.

-Hinkie's strategy had the additional bonus for the GM of preventing him from being accountable, especially with this tactic of going for the consensus BPA at the top of the lottery and not make major reaches out of it. A GM who never tries to build a team, never fails to build a team - you won't be criticized for handling a bad FA contract to that veteran, you won't be criticized for trading draft picks for another veteran. A GM who only tries to build a team once he has a generational talent or two, will very likely succeed. So failing becomes impossible. There's something disgustingly coward to it. And that same thing makes it impossible to evaluate how good Hinkie would eventually be if not for his failed strategy - 99% of the work of a GM is making those decisions while building up a team. Hinkie spent 3 years doing the easy stuff: bottoming out.

If you changed your opinions to align with those, I daresay you were enlightened.

[bondom34]

You know something, you're right. I entirely change all my thoughts and opinions to align with yours.

You're copying pasting the same stuff.

Anyway, my thoughts and opinions are simple:

- Hinkie was fired when Jerry Colangelo was hired. This was just him giving up the business card.

- there's nothing difficult to understand about what Hinkie was doing. The idea anyone vaguely familiar with the NBA would fail to understand it is laughable.

- his strategy would always be successful if a) given enough time b) other parties don't start replicating it.

- those two points above create a huge collective action problem in the NBA, hence there's a tacit understanding to not do what Hinkie was doing. He somehow thought he was immune to that, which lead to the other teams forcing his team owners to fire him.

-Hinkie's strategy had the additional bonus for the GM of preventing him from being accountable, especially with this tactic of going for the consensus BPA at the top of the lottery and not make major reaches out of it. A GM who never tries to build a team, never fails to build a team - you won't be criticized for handling a bad FA contract to that veteran, you won't be criticized for trading draft picks for another veteran. A GM who only tries to build a team once he has a generational talent or two, will very likely succeed. So failing becomes impossible. There's something disgustingly coward to it. And that same thing makes it impossible to evaluate how good Hinkie would eventually be if not for his failed strategy - 99% of the work of a GM is making those decisions while building up a team. Hinkie spent 3 years doing the easy stuff: bottoming out.

If you changed your opinions to align with those, I daresay you were enlightened.

You know something, you're right. I entirely change all my thoughts and opinions to align with yours. To add, anything I misspoke or you misunderstood is entirely my fault even if totally obvious. In addition to that your incredible rudeness and attacks are not your fault but in fact the fault of others. I apologize for all the planet for not realizing your complete and total perfection.