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Official BKN Pick Watch Thread 2016 Season [3.0]

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Re: Official BKN-DAL Pick Watch Thread 2016 Season [3.0] 

Post#741 » by SmartWentCrazy » Sun Apr 10, 2016 5:51 pm

jmr07019 wrote:Love isn't my preferred target but if we could do:

Brooklyn, Dallas and Boston firsts to NYC for Melo
Melo to Cleveland
Love to Boston

Sign whiteside and Turner.

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^ That's a nice team


I wouldnt trade the Brooklyn pick straight up for Love, let alone toss in two more first rounders.
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Post#742 » by klemen4 » Sun Apr 10, 2016 6:19 pm

Washington winning against Charlotte...make me more confident that they will play serious against BRK, game Im kind of afraid.

Also with CLE loss last night...if ATL would win at CLE tomorow...TOR would be still in play last game of season playing starters.
Yes I know possibilities are slim, but still its possible.

Man I wish BRK finished 3rd worst!
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Post#743 » by SmartWentCrazy » Sun Apr 10, 2016 6:32 pm

klemen4 wrote:Washington winning against Charlotte...make me more confident that they will play serious against BRK, game Im kind of afraid.

Also with CLE loss last night...if ATL would win at CLE tomorow...TOR would be still in play last game of season playing starters.
Yes I know possibilities are slim, but still its possible.

Man I wish BRK finished 3rd worst!


Luckily WAS traded their pick-- they have no real reason to completely mail it in. Hopefully Beal goes off in an effort to seal that max deal. If Wall isn't shut down, they should roll BKN.

As long as PHO beats SAC, BKN will at least tie for third. If BKN loses once more and PHO wins vs SAC, BKN clinches it (assuming they lose vs IND today)
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Post#744 » by ConstableGeneva » Sun Apr 10, 2016 6:40 pm

Isn't Boogie Cousins shut down for the season? That would be great for Phoenix's chances.
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Post#745 » by klemen4 » Sun Apr 10, 2016 7:06 pm

CrowderKeg wrote:Isn't Boogie Cousins shut down for the season? That would be great for Phoenix's chances.


Someone on this board said that, but I did not find any conformation. If someone has a link I would appreciate it!
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Post#746 » by ConstableGeneva » Sun Apr 10, 2016 7:12 pm

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CrowderKeg wrote:Isn't Boogie Cousins shut down for the season? That would be great for Phoenix's chances.


Someone on this board said that, but I did not find any conformation. If someone has a link I would appreciate it!

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Post#747 » by Murta » Sun Apr 10, 2016 7:24 pm

165bows wrote:Sounds like Coach/GM in Houston on the hot seat so probably not packing it in for the year.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/15170554/houston-rockets-gm-daryl-morey-coach-jb-bickerstaff-evaluated-season


I very much doubt Morey is on the exit in Houston because Les Alexander is a patient owner who believes in family approach. He's different than the man he hires, just like Kraft and BB.
I'm writing this post because I wrote similar one when McHale was fired but decided not to post it.

The thing with Morey is that he's very hard to judge because of 3 factors:
a) he is the media-savviest GM in the league, he works hard on his image and propaganda, every reporter loves him
b) he had support of his owner to do long term building
c) he had two stars that broke down due to injuries, acquired two more, broke down due to character
d) Harden will still be a top 10 player in NBA on contract with Houston

But when you go with the bottom line business of Morey, you'll notice some major failures:
1) he had 3 contending seasons out of 9, that's not enough
2) he had two future All-stars, Dragić and Lowry, gave them up to sign Lin for a laaarge sum of money
3) his most valuable assets, DoMo and Jones, will expire this summer and Houston will either have to overpay or lose them
4) his best draftee, Parsons, was let go a year early because of the gamble he made
5) will probably lose Dwight Howard this off-season

At the end of the day, he still has Harden he actually acquired, who's a top 10 player. When you pinpoint Morey's important moves, there are about the same number of hits and misses, maybe even more hits. But at some point, he has to cluster hits to create a strong contender who can win the title and that's where Morey fails miserably.
2013-2015 he's always been 1 move away and that move never came to fruition. But he had enough bullets to shoot for something. He just never took the shot. And then the move he made, Lawson, was a complete cock-up.
What would have been if he held onto Dragić or Lowry?
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Post#748 » by Murta » Sun Apr 10, 2016 7:50 pm

Clippers are trying to win thanks to DeAndre Jordan fiasco. :starwars

This is obviously very important for our DAL pick, because Detroit, Indiana, Memphis and Portland are all 1 or 2 wins away from Dallas, every win could be the difference between 15 and 20. Which is a lot. Having Dallas pick fall to 20 would be devastating this late.
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Post#749 » by jmr07019 » Sun Apr 10, 2016 7:54 pm

SmartWentCrazy wrote:
jmr07019 wrote:Love isn't my preferred target but if we could do:

Brooklyn, Dallas and Boston firsts to NYC for Melo
Melo to Cleveland
Love to Boston

Sign whiteside and Turner.

IT-AB-Crowder-Love-Whitside
Rozier-Smart-Turner-Mickey-KO

^ That's a nice team


I wouldnt trade the Brooklyn pick straight up for Love, let alone toss in two more first rounders.


I don't like his D but we need rebounding, improved 3 point shooting and another 20 ppg scorer and Love checks all 3 boxes and plays a position that our 3 best players don't. His age aligns nicely with our core. If you are expecting more than that with the Brooklyn pick you are likely going to be disappointed.
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Post#750 » by klemen4 » Sun Apr 10, 2016 8:02 pm

Murta wrote:Clippers are trying to win thanks to DeAndre Jordan fiasco. :starwars

This is obviously very important for our DAL pick, because Detroit, Indiana, Memphis and Portland are all 1 or 2 wins away from Dallas, every win could be the difference between 15 and 20. Which is a lot. Having Dallas pick fall to 20 would be devastating this late.


Agree...I think for sure they win SAS last game, that would give them 42 wins, probably a tie with MEM (who imo will not win a game) and UTA (if they win remaining three)...So a litlle coin flip luck and pick could still be 15th.
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Post#751 » by celtxman » Sun Apr 10, 2016 8:14 pm

Edug27 wrote:
celtxman wrote:
Shamrock wrote:Want no part of Love for a top 3 pick.

I view getting Love with the #3 pick as a situation similar to trading for Ray Allen. Trading for an over 30 Allen just to play with Pierce with no KG would have been a terrible trade. If they get Love and this helps entice a top free agent to come over, I'd trade for him in a heartbeat. I believe the Celtics could use him far better than Cleveland and I think players/agents would understand that as well.


But who is the KG in this situation? We got KG because all of the stars aligned to make a trade work. Free agency is a different beast.

There's a ton of potential "Ray Allen" moves out there. That's the easy part.

I understand your logic, but then you have to start somewhere and it is likely not going to be say KD without somebody in the fold. I have to be honest that I am lukewarm at best with Horford. I don't really see the attraction. But if you sign him near the MAX and it brings in KD, because he loves him, I'm all in. I like Love better than I do Horford - but if you get Horford without burning that pick and you attract somebody else, I'd rather do that.
So the Ray Allen part to me, is critical to get the process going. You need to pick that player with some insight that is happening behind closed doors as to who would want to play with what players.
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Post#752 » by Chris4Vikes » Sun Apr 10, 2016 8:17 pm

SmartWentCrazy wrote:
jmr07019 wrote:Love isn't my preferred target but if we could do:

Brooklyn, Dallas and Boston firsts to NYC for Melo
Melo to Cleveland
Love to Boston

Sign whiteside and Turner.

IT-AB-Crowder-Love-Whitside
Rozier-Smart-Turner-Mickey-KO

^ That's a nice team


I wouldnt trade the Brooklyn pick straight up for Love, let alone toss in two more first rounders.


Agree!
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Post#753 » by Chris4Vikes » Sun Apr 10, 2016 8:21 pm

Opening lines have Washington a 5 point favorite tomorrow over Nets and the Suns a 6 1/2 favorite over the Kings! Of course this can change as decisions are made about who is in and out.
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Post#754 » by klemen4 » Sun Apr 10, 2016 8:34 pm

Im thinking if there is scenario out there Pop and SAS would have a motive to win last game @DAL??

Only motive I see....but all things would have to go our way...that with a win SAS would get MEM (who would be far the easiest opponent) in the first round instead of UTA/DAL.

That would be possible it both UTA and MEM fifnish at 42, UTA has tiebreaker so they would be 6th and MEM 7th...If also DAL is at 42, than it would be UTA 6th, DAL 7th, MEM 8th.

Also with a SAS win last game @DAL... HOU would than finish 8th and play GSW...which would be harder opponent for GSW than MEM

But knowing Pop, he does not give a f... :)
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Post#755 » by Marvel » Sun Apr 10, 2016 9:13 pm

celtxman wrote:
Edug27 wrote:
celtxman wrote:I view getting Love with the #3 pick as a situation similar to trading for Ray Allen. Trading for an over 30 Allen just to play with Pierce with no KG would have been a terrible trade. If they get Love and this helps entice a top free agent to come over, I'd trade for him in a heartbeat. I believe the Celtics could use him far better than Cleveland and I think players/agents would understand that as well.


But who is the KG in this situation? We got KG because all of the stars aligned to make a trade work. Free agency is a different beast.

There's a ton of potential "Ray Allen" moves out there. That's the easy part.

I understand your logic, but then you have to start somewhere and it is likely not going to be say KD without somebody in the fold. I have to be honest that I am lukewarm at best with Horford. I don't really see the attraction. But if you sign him near the MAX and it brings in KD, because he loves him, I'm all in. I like Love better than I do Horford - but if you get Horford without burning that pick and you attract somebody else, I'd rather do that.
So the Ray Allen part to me, is critical to get the process going. You need to pick that player with some insight that is happening behind closed doors as to who would want to play with what players.


I don't see Horford being that piece who brings Durant to Boston. How is Horford any different than Ibaka, pretty much the same player. The piece who could lure Durant into coming to Boston would have to be a top 10 player.
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Post#756 » by Banks2Pierce » Sun Apr 10, 2016 9:20 pm

Marvel wrote:I don't see Horford being that piece who brings Durant to Boston. How is Horford any different than Ibaka, pretty much the same player. The piece who could lure Durant into coming to Boston would have to be a top 10 player.


Adding Horford + Durant to a 49 win team is quite a bit better than Ibaka. I do think we'll need a move to lure KD in, though.
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Post#757 » by rickrolled » Sun Apr 10, 2016 10:08 pm

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Jazz reporter Tony Jones saw him in the locker room and said that nothing "seemed amiss" and Favors was also in the official starting lineup. This is a must-win game for the Jazz, so his knee must be really bothering him. For what it's worth, Favors isn't even on the bench and Trey Lyles started in his place. Apr 10 - 5:13 PM
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Post#758 » by SMTBSI » Sun Apr 10, 2016 10:14 pm

Houston and Dallas did their parts. Utah up by one at the half.. we really need them to pull this one out.

Our games stress me out enough. Now I have to be stressed out about 4 or 5 other games every night as well.

And our margin for error is tiny; we need almost every single game to go our way at this point.
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Post#759 » by Fencer reregistered » Sun Apr 10, 2016 10:16 pm

I'm not too annoyed about the declining value of the Dallas pick, given how valuable the Crowder part of the deal turned out to be.
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Post#760 » by reload141 » Sun Apr 10, 2016 10:36 pm

Nets down 20 at the end of the first quarter... one game at a time guys! Let's go Indy!

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