Thank Nation! Pre-Lottery: Denver 9th, NY pick 7th (PART 4)

[slothrop8]

So, pending the lottery we could theoretically pick 2, 3, 7, or 9. Is that right? With 2 and 3 being extremely unlikely, 7 somewhat possible but still a longshot, and 9 being most likely of all?

2,3,8,9,10,11,12

Right, teams could jump over us. Forgot that element. So in that case, 10 somewhat possible but unlikely, and 11 and 12 pretty close to impossible - though again theoretically possible. Don't think there's anyway we can get to 8 though - but you likely meant 7?

So:

Extremely unlikely - 2,3,11,12

Longshot but somewhat possible - 7, 10

Very likely - 9

Does that breakdown have it? I assume someone will be along with the exact percentages at some point - but in a nutshell I think that's close to right?

[CunningLinguist]

So, pending the lottery we could theoretically pick 2, 3, 7, or 9. Is that right? With 2 and 3 being extremely unlikely, 7 somewhat possible but still a longshot, and 9 being most likely of all?

2,3,8,9,10,11,12

These numbers are the ones that bother me because it seems like every draft at least one team cracks the top 3 that shouldn't have been there.

Moving back a spot or two might not be a big deal this year because I think there is a lot of similar talent in the 8-14 range. 8th would have been nice in the event that Brown or Dunn drop though.

[CunningLinguist]

So, pending the lottery we could theoretically pick 2, 3, 7, or 9. Is that right? With 2 and 3 being extremely unlikely, 7 somewhat possible but still a longshot, and 9 being most likely of all?

2,3,8,9,10,11,12

Right, teams could jump over us. Forgot that element. So in that case, 10 somewhat possible but unlikely, and 11 and 12 pretty close to impossible - though again theoretically possible. Don't think there's anyway we can get to 8 though - but you likely meant 7?

So:

Extremely unlikely - 2,3,11,12

Longshot but somewhat possible - 7, 10

Very likely - 9

Does that breakdown have it? I assume someone will be along with the exact percentages at some point - but in a nutshell I think that's close to right?

We can get 8th if the Denver pick moves into the 3, thus pushing the New York pick down from 7th to 8th.

[Qhawe]

Really wanted 8th.

[Qhawe]

2,3,8,9,10,11,12

Right, teams could jump over us. Forgot that element. So in that case, 10 somewhat possible but unlikely, and 11 and 12 pretty close to impossible - though again theoretically possible. Don't think there's anyway we can get to 8 though - but you likely meant 7?

So:

Extremely unlikely - 2,3,11,12

Longshot but somewhat possible - 7, 10

Very likely - 9

Does that breakdown have it? I assume someone will be along with the exact percentages at some point - but in a nutshell I think that's close to right?

We can get 8th if the Denver pick moves into the 3, thus pushing the New York pick down from 7th to 8th.

That's not how the lottery works pal. We'd pretty stay 9th if someone jumped, or drop if a pick behind us dropped.

[TheGoodDoctor]

2,3,8,9,10,11,12

These numbers are the ones that bother me because it seems like every draft at least one team cracks the top 3 that shouldn't have been there.

Moving back a spot or two might not be a big deal this year because I think there is a lot of similar talent in the 8-14 range. 8th would have been nice in the event that Brown or Dunn drop though.

Yeah that's the worry that we take a dagger to the heart ala the Knicks when Curry was drafted one spot ahead and not saying Murray is anywhere near Curry (because I think he is far more like Klay and could like Mayo) but that would really suck to have a player just get drafted before us. Of course the higher the better but whatever. I think Powell and Wright have convinced us all that Masai can spot talent and this is the best pick he'll have had as a GM (period).

[Clutch0z24]

Masai is great at drafting so i am confident wherever he picks ....Bruno>Hood was his only blunder so far. Besides that hes done great.

I have a feeling The Timberwolves are going to win the lotto again this year....Idk why just a gut feeling....Simmons/Wiggins/Karl Anthony Towns.

[dgr81]

Actually the lowest the raptors can pick is 11th.

[CunningLinguist]

Right, teams could jump over us. Forgot that element. So in that case, 10 somewhat possible but unlikely, and 11 and 12 pretty close to impossible - though again theoretically possible. Don't think there's anyway we can get to 8 though - but you likely meant 7?

So:

Extremely unlikely - 2,3,11,12

Longshot but somewhat possible - 7, 10

Very likely - 9

Does that breakdown have it? I assume someone will be along with the exact percentages at some point - but in a nutshell I think that's close to right?

We can get 8th if the Denver pick moves into the 3, thus pushing the New York pick down from 7th to 8th.

That's not how the lottery works pal. We'd pretty stay 9th if someone jumped, or drop if a pick behind us dropped.

Yes, it is how the lottery works, champ.

[CunningLinguist]

Actually the lowest the raptors can pick is 11th.

It's 12th. Theoretically 3 teams behind us can jump into the top 3, pushing everyone else back 3 spots. Highly unlikely though.

[gerrit4]

That's not how the lottery works pal. We'd pretty stay 9th if someone jumped, or drop if a pick behind us dropped.

I know there's always a million posts where someone thinks you can move from 9th to 8th after the lottery (which isn't how it works), but for once, it actually does work that way. If the Denver pick becomes a top 3 pick, it goes to Denver, and we get NY's pick (currently 7th) which would drop down to 8th. This is obviously assuming that no one from 10th to 14th moves up in the lottery too.

So I guess you can apologize for the condescending "pal."

[Qhawe]

We can get 8th if the Denver pick moves into the 3, thus pushing the New York pick down from 7th to 8th.

That's not how the lottery works pal. We'd pretty stay 9th if someone jumped, or drop if a pick behind us dropped.

Yes, it is how the lottery works, champ.

I was wrong, you're right. If our pick jumps, we'd move to 8th.

[Salted Meat]

#9 Picks:

Drummond
Hayward
Kemba
DeRozan
Iggy
Noah
Amare
Nowitizki
McGrady
Marion
Oakley

So there's good talent to be had...nevermind guys like Klay, Kawhi, George were all drafted after that in drafts thought to be in even worse drafts.

I know it's just meant as a reminder that there's talent available at the 9th spot, but there's no guarantee the 9th pick pans out at all. Any pick can be a bad pick if you don't take someone who fits your team and you don't put in the right position to succeed. It all comes down to scouting.

None of those players would have been taken 9th in their respective drafts in hindsight.

[Qhawe]

That's not how the lottery works pal. We'd pretty stay 9th if someone jumped, or drop if a pick behind us dropped.

I know there's always a million posts where someone thinks you can move from 9th to 8th after the lottery (which isn't how it works), but for once, it actually does work that way. If the Denver pick becomes a top 3 pick, it goes to Denver, and we get NY's pick (currently 7th) which would drop down to 8th. This is obviously assuming that no one from 10th to 14th moves up in the lottery too.

So I guess you can apologize for the condescending "pal."

I apologize for condescending, gerrit4

[CunningLinguist]

That's not how the lottery works pal. We'd pretty stay 9th if someone jumped, or drop if a pick behind us dropped.

Yes, it is how the lottery works, champ.

I was wrong, you're right. If our pick jumps, we'd move to 8th.

No big deal.

[TheGoodDoctor]

Masai is great at drafting so i am confident wherever he picks ....Bruno>Hood was his only blunder so far. Besides that hes done great.

I have a feeling The Timberwolves are going to win the lotto again this year....Idk why just a gut feeling....Simmons/Wiggins/Karl Anthony Towns.

I actually think LAL or BOS is going to "coincidentally" win it this year.

2 huge and historical markets, well placed in the lotto already. Simmons to LA to help create another showtime and Ingram inserted pretty much right where BOS needs him is too good for the NBA to pass up. Especially if Philly really is enamored with Dunn.

[UnderdogRaptors]

Man I really wanted 8th..

[TheGoodDoctor]

#9 Picks:

Drummond
Hayward
Kemba
DeRozan
Iggy
Noah
Amare
Nowitizki
McGrady
Marion
Oakley

So there's good talent to be had...nevermind guys like Klay, Kawhi, George were all drafted after that in drafts thought to be in even worse drafts.

I know it's just meant as a reminder that there's talent available at the 9th spot, but there's no guarantee the 9th pick pans out at all. Any pick can be a bad pick if you don't take someone who fits your team and you don't put in the right position to succeed. It all comes down to scouting.

None of those players would have been taken 9th in their respective drafts in hindsight.

Of course and agreed.

But that's the whole point. Any pick including the #1 overall can be a total flop but MANY times and almost every draft there are names that slip through the cracks and that's just listing the #9 spot. I just see people getting bothered by not getting #8 which I get because as I said to someone else before it would suck to be that team that was enamored with a particular player and he goes one pick ahead which I think somewhat happened with Barnes to us. But you're absolutely right about scouting and development which Masai seems to be great at so yeah I want odds on our side just to have that option but as we always say...

who here would trade Bargnani for a top 10 pick in the draft???

[gerrit4]

That's not how the lottery works pal. We'd pretty stay 9th if someone jumped, or drop if a pick behind us dropped.

I know there's always a million posts where someone thinks you can move from 9th to 8th after the lottery (which isn't how it works), but for once, it actually does work that way. If the Denver pick becomes a top 3 pick, it goes to Denver, and we get NY's pick (currently 7th) which would drop down to 8th. This is obviously assuming that no one from 10th to 14th moves up in the lottery too.

So I guess you can apologize for the condescending "pal."

I apologize for condescending gerrit4

Haha, well you didn't say it to me! But obviously I'm just joking around too - it's a message board, I don't think anyone really takes it that personally.

[Qhawe]

I know there's always a million posts where someone thinks you can move from 9th to 8th after the lottery (which isn't how it works), but for once, it actually does work that way. If the Denver pick becomes a top 3 pick, it goes to Denver, and we get NY's pick (currently 7th) which would drop down to 8th. This is obviously assuming that no one from 10th to 14th moves up in the lottery too.

So I guess you can apologize for the condescending "pal."

I apologize for condescending gerrit4

Haha, well you didn't say it to me! But obviously I'm just joking around too - it's a message board, I don't think anyone really takes it that personally.

All good, I knew you we're jking.