The Next Coach (SCOTT BROOKS HIRED pg.13)

Post #81 » by **Ruzious** » Fri Apr 15, 2016 3:44 pm

DCZards wrote:
Ruzious wrote:Cassell would be my last choice among the 5 that Jorge mentioned. He's made too many foolish old-school comments over the years, and his style of play as a player did not make me think - this guy's a future head coach... or assistant coach, for that matter.

Don't quite understand the last part of your comment about Cassell's "sytle of play" making you think he was not a future head coach. I recall him as a heady player and an oncourt leader who was often responsible for getting his teammates in the right position on the court.

In the last several years of his career, he would typically pound the ball for most of the shot clock looking to post up the opposing point guard or settle for mid-range jump shots. His style worked fine for him, but it's not a style I would want my young players to emulate.

DCZards · Post #82 » by **DCZards** » Fri Apr 15, 2016 6:10 pm

Ruzious wrote:
DCZards wrote:
Ruzious wrote:Cassell would be my last choice among the 5 that Jorge mentioned. He's made too many foolish old-school comments over the years, and his style of play as a player did not make me think - this guy's a future head coach... or assistant coach, for that matter.

Don't quite understand the last part of your comment about Cassell's "sytle of play" making you think he was not a future head coach. I recall him as a heady player and an oncourt leader who was often responsible for getting his teammates in the right position on the court.

In the last several years of his career, he would typically pound the ball for most of the shot clock looking to post up the opposing point guard or settle for mid-range jump shots. His style worked fine for him, but it's not a style I would want my young players to emulate.

Sam I Am had one of the deadliest midrange jumpers in the game when he played and he had a very good post up game. So it made perfect sense that he would use those skills on behalf of the teams he played for. (Guy did help Houston win two rings.)

But the game has changed...and it's unfair to think that a Coach Sam Cassell and/or his assistant coaches couldn't unjust to today's NBA game. Or that Sam would insist that the players he coached adopt his playing style.

Although there is one guard I'd like to see Sam help develop a better post up game--JWall.

Post #83 » by **Ruzious** » Fri Apr 15, 2016 7:31 pm

DCZards wrote:
Ruzious wrote:
DCZards wrote:
Don't quite understand the last part of your comment about Cassell's "sytle of play" making you think he was not a future head coach. I recall him as a heady player and an oncourt leader who was often responsible for getting his teammates in the right position on the court.

In the last several years of his career, he would typically pound the ball for most of the shot clock looking to post up the opposing point guard or settle for mid-range jump shots. His style worked fine for him, but it's not a style I would want my young players to emulate.

Sam I Am had one of the deadliest midrange jumpers in the game when he played and he had a very good post up game. So it made perfect sense that he would use those skills on behalf of the teams he played for. (Guy did help Houston win two rings.)

But the game has changed...and it's unfair to think that a Coach Sam Cassell and/or his assistant coaches couldn't unjust to today's NBA game. Or that Sam would insist that the players he coached adopt his playing style.

Although there is one guard I'd like to see Sam help develop a better post up game--JWall.

I don't want any guard spending most of the shot-clock pounding the ball. That's not good in any era.

And who coached up JWall... and Bradley Beal?

Post #84 » by **Ruzious** » Fri Apr 15, 2016 10:27 pm

Scottie Brooks made it to the NBA because he had to be that much smarter than pretty much everyone else. That's the kind of ex-player that's more likely to succeed as an NBA coach.

tontoz · Post #85 » by **tontoz** » Fri Apr 15, 2016 10:49 pm

Not a fan of Brooks. OKC's offense was just iso-chuck when he was there. It always bit them in the ass during the playoffs.

gambitx777 · Post #86 » by **gambitx777** » Fri Apr 15, 2016 11:01 pm

If you bring in brooks, you need to hire a offensive guro to go with him. Like Dantoni, or something like that. I would rather bring in someone other than brooks because we have had a lot bad offence with Witt. But Brooks is better than witt over all.

Hidden Eye · Post #87 » by **Hidden Eye** » Fri Apr 15, 2016 11:37 pm

gambitx777 wrote:If you bring in brooks, you need to hire a offensive guro to go with him. Like Dantoni, or something like that. I would rather bring in someone other than brooks because we have had a lot bad offence with Witt. But Brooks is better than witt over all.

Brooks can't activate "Playoff Wittman"

Post #88 » by **nate33** » Fri Apr 15, 2016 11:41 pm

Ruzious wrote:Cassell would be my last choice among the 5 that Jorge mentioned. He's made too many foolish old-school comments over the years, and his style of play as a player did not make me think - this guy's a future head coach... or assistant coach, for that matter.

Yeah, I see Cassell as an assistant coach who focuses on player development. I think he has a lot to teach players about developing a competitive mindset. But, like you, I think he is too grounded in old school philosophies to be an effective coach in the modern NBA.

JWizmentality · Post #89 » by **JWizmentality** » Sat Apr 16, 2016 12:27 am

Ugh, I see Brooks as Randy on ginkgo biloba. His offensive schemes never impressed me. I really want Van Gundy or Coach Cal.

thricethefun · Post #90 » by **thricethefun** » Sat Apr 16, 2016 12:39 am

JWizmentality wrote:Ugh, I see Brooks as Randy on ginkgo biloba. His offensive schemes never impressed me. I really want Van Gundy or Coach Cal.

Why Cal? Obviously he''s a great recruiter but hasn't shown to be an amazing x's and o's guy

Dark Faze · Post #91 » by **Dark Faze** » Sat Apr 16, 2016 12:50 am

If Brooks can develop players here as well as he did in OKC, then it's a great hire for a talent starved franchise. Impossible to know how much he had to do with the rise of so many players in OKC though--gotta imagine quite a bit though.

Post #92 » by **TheSecretWeapon** » Sat Apr 16, 2016 1:06 am

thricethefun wrote:
JWizmentality wrote:Ugh, I see Brooks as Randy on ginkgo biloba. His offensive schemes never impressed me. I really want Van Gundy or Coach Cal.

Why Cal? Obviously he''s a great recruiter but hasn't shown to be an amazing x's and o's guy

Calipari has actually been fairly innovative. He was an early adopter of the dribble drive motion offense. Basically no one in D1 was running anything like it when he started using it at Memphis.

This is not to say I want him coaching the Wizards. Just pointing out he does have a good basketball mind.

80sballboy · Post #93 » by **80sballboy** » Sat Apr 16, 2016 1:32 am

At least he's not sleazy

http://www.si.com/nba/2016/01/11/brooklyn-nets-john-calipari-coaching-contract-lionel-hollins

ozthegap · Post #94 » by **ozthegap** » Sat Apr 16, 2016 1:40 am

tontoz wrote:Not a fan of Brooks. OKC's offense was just iso-chuck when he was there. It always bit them in the ass during the playoffs.

I mean he did have young Westbrook, James Harden, young Joe Johnson, Kevin Martin, and Dion Waiters. All of whom were/are ball dominant players who didn't pass much when he was coach. No matter what offense he tried to run those guys would always try to play iso

gesa2 · Post #95 » by **gesa2** » Sat Apr 16, 2016 2:19 am

Joe Johnson never played for OKC. Drafted by Boston, then Phoenix, Atlanta, Brooklyn and now Miami.

payitforward · Post #96 » by **payitforward** » Sat Apr 16, 2016 2:34 am

It seems Brooks is our top target. More evidence that the franchise continues to entertain a fantasy that Kevin Durant will come here.

In other news, Ernie Grunfeld is still our GM. The future looks grim, alas.

AFM · Post #97 » by **AFM** » Sat Apr 16, 2016 3:01 am

Why don't they hire Kevin Durant's middle school PE teacher while they're at it? Oh and change the team name to the DC Durant's.

This is getting ridiculous

long suffrin' boulez fan · Post #98 » by **long suffrin' boulez fan** » Sat Apr 16, 2016 3:13 am

AFM wrote:Why don't they hire Kevin Durant's middle school PE teacher while they're at it? Oh and change the team name to the DC Durant's.

This is getting ridiculous

Agreed. Talk about hollow.

Once Durant spurns us, we'll be left with Durant's high school coach, his former pro coach, a $20 million practice facility near his home and a bunch of players named Garrett and Luol.

Post #99 » by **bondom34** » Sat Apr 16, 2016 5:34 am

Just wanted to let you guys know if you get Brooks, he's a solid coach. Here was my quote from a Wiz fan who asked on reddit:

He was excellent with player development and getting guys to buy in. Loyal to his players and always had the team playing hard, they never quit. He had a team with a bunch of 10 day contracts last season hanging in tight games because they defended well and were rarely outworked. His offense was unimaginative but if you've got talent offensively on the roster it isn't an issue. I didn't like the firing then and still don't though I know most here disagree.

No-Man · Post #100 » by **No-Man** » Sat Apr 16, 2016 7:27 am

Brooks is pretty much as mediocre as Witt, but he is friends with KD, so I guess he qualifies for Ernie and Ted.