Potential sleepers

[doordoor123]

Apparently Chad Ford is saying its been reported Ben Bentil could have 7'2 wingspan. If he does and he's actually 6'9 he's going to be a first rounder.

No he is not, he is still a guy that has no position defensively and pretty much doesnt do nothing more than shoot the ball.

He can score in a number of ways and he's still really young. I don't think the verdict is out of his defense, but I agree he won't be able to defend a position right now. Length would help him at least in the post and he's athletic enough to play the 4 defensively. I don't think he's ever a starter, but he can be a good pick up for a team that needs bench scoring in the latter 2nd round. I don't actually think he's a first rounder, but Ford says he can be and Ford actually talks to front offices so I can't dispute it. Just trying to rationalize what he could see in Bentil as a first round prospect. I think I would take a bunch of forwards before him though. Robert Carter Jr is projected in the same kind of spot and I would take him ahead of Bentil. I just wanted to post that as an observation and I couldn't find a good thread for it so I posted it here.

Having said that, a guy like Kyrie Irving get critical acclaim and he's only an offensive guy. Same with Blake Griffin and many other stars. You don't have to be a two-way player to be a top player or not a steal.

[Dr Positivity]

Just based strictly on stats, Alex Caruso is interesting. He averaged 2.9 stl, 0.5 blk, 5.1 reb, 6.9 ast per 40 for a combo guard. Only 11.3 pts/40 .60 TS% for a senior though. Based on a few youtube highlights of dunks, is athletic it would appear

[DrCoach]

Apparently Chad Ford is saying its been reported Ben Bentil could have 7'2 wingspan. If he does and he's actually 6'9 he's going to be a first rounder.

No he is not, he is still a guy that has no position defensively and pretty much doesnt do nothing more than shoot the ball.

He can score in a number of ways and he's still really young. I don't think the verdict is out of his defense, but I agree he won't be able to defend a position right now. Length would help him at least in the post and he's athletic enough to play the 4 defensively. I don't think he's ever a starter, but he can be a good pick up for a team that needs bench scoring in the latter 2nd round. I don't actually think he's a first rounder, but Ford says he can be and Ford actually talks to front offices so I can't dispute it. Just trying to rationalize what he could see in Bentil as a first round prospect. I think I would take a bunch of forwards before him though. Robert Carter Jr is projected in the same kind of spot and I would take him ahead of Bentil. I just wanted to post that as an observation and I couldn't find a good thread for it so I posted it here.

Having said that, a guy like Kyrie Irving get critical acclaim and he's only an offensive guy. Same with Blake Griffin and many other stars. You don't have to be a two-way player to be a top player or not a steal.

We'll hold up, that's not true. griffin can score, rebound and pass

[Leprechaun18]

Petr Cornelie, of France, really moves well for a 7 fter. He moves really well and can shoot.

[doordoor123]

No he is not, he is still a guy that has no position defensively and pretty much doesnt do nothing more than shoot the ball.

He can score in a number of ways and he's still really young. I don't think the verdict is out of his defense, but I agree he won't be able to defend a position right now. Length would help him at least in the post and he's athletic enough to play the 4 defensively. I don't think he's ever a starter, but he can be a good pick up for a team that needs bench scoring in the latter 2nd round. I don't actually think he's a first rounder, but Ford says he can be and Ford actually talks to front offices so I can't dispute it. Just trying to rationalize what he could see in Bentil as a first round prospect. I think I would take a bunch of forwards before him though. Robert Carter Jr is projected in the same kind of spot and I would take him ahead of Bentil. I just wanted to post that as an observation and I couldn't find a good thread for it so I posted it here.

Having said that, a guy like Kyrie Irving get critical acclaim and he's only an offensive guy. Same with Blake Griffin and many other stars. You don't have to be a two-way player to be a top player or not a steal.

We'll hold up, that's not true. griffin can score, rebound and pass

I don't see why he can't develop anything other than shooting. He has to develop SOMETHING. Players the come to the NBA rarely don't try to develop other parts of their game.

[blazersbucs40]

Elgin Cook... I can see him becoming an Ime Udoka type player. Think he can find a decent role in the NBA.

[Notanoob]

Just based strictly on stats, Alex Caruso is interesting. He averaged 2.9 stl, 0.5 blk, 5.1 reb, 6.9 ast per 40 for a combo guard. Only 11.3 pts/40 .60 TS% for a senior though. Based on a few youtube highlights of dunks, is athletic it would appear

He has a really high TO rate actually, kind of killed my interest in him considering how little he scored.

[Negrodamus]

He can score in a number of ways and he's still really young. I don't think the verdict is out of his defense, but I agree he won't be able to defend a position right now. Length would help him at least in the post and he's athletic enough to play the 4 defensively. I don't think he's ever a starter, but he can be a good pick up for a team that needs bench scoring in the latter 2nd round. I don't actually think he's a first rounder, but Ford says he can be and Ford actually talks to front offices so I can't dispute it. Just trying to rationalize what he could see in Bentil as a first round prospect. I think I would take a bunch of forwards before him though. Robert Carter Jr is projected in the same kind of spot and I would take him ahead of Bentil. I just wanted to post that as an observation and I couldn't find a good thread for it so I posted it here.

Having said that, a guy like Kyrie Irving get critical acclaim and he's only an offensive guy. Same with Blake Griffin and many other stars. You don't have to be a two-way player to be a top player or not a steal.

We'll hold up, that's not true. griffin can score, rebound and pass

I don't see why he can't develop anything other than shooting. He has to develop SOMETHING. Players the come to the NBA rarely don't try to develop other parts of their game.

Ben Bentil is a great sleeper and will likely be a first rounder if that wingspan is correct.

[Negrodamus]

I don't know if he's been mentioned (I could have mentioned him myself), but a deeper sleeper would be someone like James Kelly out of Marshall.

He averaged 20ppg, 10 rpg, 1 apg, 1 spg, 1 bpg but what is most intriguing is that he's shooting from 2pt% a cool 65.9% with 9.7 2PTA a game. Here are the only highlights of his time at Marshall:


[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Va2uW2uEbGU[/youtube]

Looks very athletic, has length, can stroke it from deep (seems like at a fault at times), and puts the ball in the bucket. 26.3 ppg per 40. Dude was legit.

[Ruzious]

Good call on the 65.9% on 2's from James Kelly. That's a real good sign of his ability to finish despite the height. 2 obvious things will hurt his chances of getting drafted - being a PF at just a hair over 6'7 and turning 23 just a couple months after the draft. But with the shrinking size of stretch 4's in the NBA, if he can convince NBA teams he has legit 3 point range, some team will give him a chance. I'd expect to see him in the D League.

[No-Man]

Seems like a intriguing project, dunno if that is good or bad since he is 23, reminds me a bit of James Ennis

[Negrodamus]

A.J English is another guy that is kinda old for a prospect, but dominated the Portsmouth Invitational and this past NCAA season. He measured out at 6'3.5 in shoes and a 6'9 wingspan. He needs to fill out more, but watch him go to Portland and be just another senior that's undervalued but goes off in the NBA.

Stats this past season:

22.6 ppg, 51.9% 2pt FG, 37% 3pt FG, 83.6% FT, 5 rpg, 6.2 apg, 1.6 spg, 3.6 TOpg

[EMG518]

David Walker and Kahlil Felder are still the best sleepers to me.

[Kupt]

Any chandler parson type find in the 2nd rd this yr?

[doordoor123]

I don't know if he's been mentioned (I could have mentioned him myself), but a deeper sleeper would be someone like James Kelly out of Marshall.

He averaged 20ppg, 10 rpg, 1 apg, 1 spg, 1 bpg but what is most intriguing is that he's shooting from 2pt% a cool 65.9% with 9.7 2PTA a game. Here are the only highlights of his time at Marshall:


[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Va2uW2uEbGU[/youtube]

Looks very athletic, has length, can stroke it from deep (seems like at a fault at times), and puts the ball in the bucket. 26.3 ppg per 40. Dude was legit.

7'1 wingspan with 8'9.5 standing reach. My issue is that he weighs 252 lbs. I like the way he finishes, but how many of those finishes are helped my his weight and being more athletic than smaller schools? How many of that 2pt% are lobs (he seems to have a lot of them)? Other than that, I really like him as a sleeper. I'm going to look for more film on him. Nice find.

[doordoor123]

Any chandler parson type find in the 2nd rd this yr?

In what way? Playing style? Production? White guys? Second rounders better than drafted?

[janmagn]

Any chandler parson type find in the 2nd rd this yr?

In what way? Playing style? Production? White guys? Second rounders better than drafted?

I think in terms of sleepers who can produce right away

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[Kupt]

Any chandler parson type find in the 2nd rd this yr?

In what way? Playing style? Production? White guys? Second rounders better than drafted?

I think in terms of sleepers who can produce right away

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Playing style...long 3/d type sf who also good passer

[Dr Positivity]

Just based strictly on stats, Alex Caruso is interesting. He averaged 2.9 stl, 0.5 blk, 5.1 reb, 6.9 ast per 40 for a combo guard. Only 11.3 pts/40 .60 TS% for a senior though. Based on a few youtube highlights of dunks, is athletic it would appear

He has a really high TO rate actually, kind of killed my interest in him considering how little he scored.

True but if scoring was put aside, 6.9 assists and 3.3 turnovers per 40 isn't that unusual a ratio

[doordoor123]

In what way? Playing style? Production? White guys? Second rounders better than drafted?

I think in terms of sleepers who can produce right away

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Playing style...long 3/d type sf who also good passer

If we're adding the white factor, Jake Layman and Paul Zipster. Other than that, Dorian Finney-Smith, Patrick McCaw and Justin Jackson