PG: Heat/Hornets

[IggieCC]

Thx Mate.

For good measure I've now ditched the abomination that was the Kaminsky Sig and I'm back to good luck charms Robinson and Justise.


I'm back, Let's **** do this.

[RexBoyWonder]

I was there and players sucks,refs sucks,Spo sucks,everybody sucks so iam still drunk from yesterday and now i go in CHA to see more of these crap so I put 100K on Mimi -2.5 KV 2.35.Lets see what happened.

Lets suck together some more.

Chit just got real.

Let's get this one for our Slovenian sister.

Also,

Spoiler:

Calling on the lucky charm spirit of Uncle Beno

For Jeresejaere and Beno, WE FIGHT!

[MorbidHEAT]

Did you guys see the 2 minute report for game 5? NBA not admitting it was a foul just infuriates me even more.

Q4 00:05.2 Foul: Shooting Cody Zeller Dwyane Wade CNC (Correct non-Call)
Zeller (CHA) comes towards Wade (MIA) from across the restricted area, planting his foot and jumping vertically to defend Wade’s shot. Zeller absorbs contact when it occurs and, while his arms are not completely vertical, multiple angles confirm they do not make contact with Wade. Therefore, Zeller maintains a legal guarding position as he attempts to defend the shot.

Q4 00:05.0 Foul: Shooting Courtney Lee Dwyane Wade CNC (Correct non-call)
Lee (CHA) makes contact with the ball during Wade’s (MIA) upward shooting motion, which makes his subsequent, minor arm contact with Wade incidental. Lee then makes contact with Wade’s arm again at about 00:04.9, however, Wade has already lost possession of the ball.

http://official.nba.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2016/04/Hornets-90-Heat-88.pdf

Bullsh************T

[Rapaz]

Did you guys see the 2 minute report for game 5? NBA not admitting it was a foul just infuriates me even more.

Q4 00:05.2 Foul: Shooting Cody Zeller Dwyane Wade CNC (Correct non-Call)
Zeller (CHA) comes towards Wade (MIA) from across the restricted area, planting his foot and jumping vertically to defend Wade’s shot. Zeller absorbs contact when it occurs and, while his arms are not completely vertical, multiple angles confirm they do not make contact with Wade. Therefore, Zeller maintains a legal guarding position as he attempts to defend the shot.

Q4 00:05.0 Foul: Shooting Courtney Lee Dwyane Wade CNC (Correct non-call)
Lee (CHA) makes contact with the ball during Wade’s (MIA) upward shooting motion, which makes his subsequent, minor arm contact with Wade incidental. Lee then makes contact with Wade’s arm again at about 00:04.9, however, Wade has already lost possession of the ball.

http://official.nba.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2016/04/Hornets-90-Heat-88.pdf

Bullsh************T

Rapaz makes contact with Jennifer Lawrence's hand in a cordial, introductory manner, which makes his subsequent, minor booty contact with Lawrence incidental. Rapaz then makes contact with Lawrence's booty again at about 00:04.9, however, Lawrence has already lost possession of her dignity.

No foul!

[3ballbomber]

What's hilarious about Steve Clifford is that mother f*cker was clueless on how to handle Miami after the last 2 games. He stated he didn't need to do much adjustments & he was happy w/ the way his team played Refs made this dope look like the better coach here - i have alot of criticism for Spo but Clifford is not the better coach here.

The refs are why you guys stopped shooting 50% from three?

There's two things certain about this series:

1. Officiating is horrible.
2. Charlotte Hornet moderators are classless douche cakes.

[3ballbomber]

Not quite sure why Wade is getting the ****.

He carried the team throughout the game.

He sounded really bad for a team captain in the post game interview. He only played 32 minutes in a pivotal playoff game (that's pretty bad) and that's on Spo. Wade played a great game and didn't resort to hero ball. I have nothing bad to say about how he played except that he complained way too much. Now the rooks are complaining. I don't know if he truly understands that he is the absolute ruler in that locker room and everyone follows him. If he's stopping to complain to refs and letting it get to his head, then EVERYONE else will do the same. That's exactly what happened. But that's it.

Joe Johnson is a great pickup, but he should be a sixth man. He doesn't do the dirty work (like boxing out and other little things) that Winslow provides. But I understand why he was in. Dragic should have been in the game, not JR. We go down with that $85 million point guard if that's what it boils down to. You go down with your best players.

I've seen far worse complaining by Wade during the big-3 era. I liked the way he handled it for the most part. The stare down when he was hacked by Lee was quite intense & validated.

[3ballbomber]

What's hilarious about Steve Clifford is that mother f*cker was clueless on how to handle Miami after the last 2 games. He stated he didn't need to do much adjustments & he was happy w/ the way his team played Refs made this dope look like the better coach here - i have alot of criticism for Spo but Clifford is not the better coach here.

The refs are why you guys stopped shooting 50% from three?

Hell no. You guys played amazing defense! I said that during the game yesterday. Hornets broke so many plays man. We couldn't get many good looks. Going into the series, I had no clue that Kemba was such a scrappy defender.

The refs did an awful job again though. Not that it was the reason you guys won, but more so the refs took away our chances to make pivotal plays is all.

Y u bait angry heat fanz doe?

When refs call games significantly one way it takes away the other teams continuity & consistency to be able to do the things they need to do on the court. Discombobulates a team when calls are so bias. Refs have been called out not just by Heat fans alone but other people who aren't heat followers and people who even hate Miami. Are they 100% responsible? of course not but their finger prints have been all over this series. If you think that no call on Lin hacking Deng in gm4 and Lee & Zeller hacking Wade last game are not fouls then you best take off your blinders. Wade should have shot FT's to even the score and possibly send the game to OT.

[3ballbomber]

No contact on that last play from Wade, as you can see (if you close your eyes) in this image.

All you funny 'don't blame the refs' cats....there's dozens more and even more from game 4.


This is why i'm not criticizing our team, officiating on some suspect sh*t for 3 games now.

Stay sleeping!

This is why I have little to no confidence in a Game 6 win. The league cut the Heat's nuts off. Our guys are afraid to play aggressive defense for fear of picking up fouls, and it shows. Like I told you yesterday, I believe that in the NBA's eyes, the Heat are old news, and they are done with us, and that's why they're pushing for the "young upstart" team to advance.

When you think about how many games the refs has been against us this season and then taking into consideration these last 3 games, this may be the case and actually pondered this earlier in the season.

This will be ultimately truth if we lose gm6. Right now i'm staying hopeful that all this is is fabricated drama to send the series to 7 games where the league can salvage some ratings in what would otherwise be a boring series.

[HIF]

Joe Johnson is a great pickup, but he should be a sixth man. He doesn't do the dirty work (like boxing out and other little things) that Winslow provides. But I understand why he was in. Dragic should have been in the game, not JR. We go down with that $85 million point guard if that's what it boils down to. You go down with your best players.

Why should Dragic been in the game?

For his great shooting?
For his lock down defensive capabilities?
For his insane finishing abilities?

Dude sucked all game and J -Rich had 9 points in the 4th quarter I think. All very timely baskets as well. Spo made the right call by benching him. Our team is just hampered by dragic in this match up because dragic makes jeremy linn look like james harden. Who cares what Wade said in the press conf. Dude was busting his ass and dragic, JJ and whitesdide didn't do anything clutch.

Dragic wasn't that bad on defense, he kept the fouls down and did a decent job on Kemba (finally). Yeah he was bad offensively. But I'd trust him to at least put up a better shot in that situation than a 30ft contested bomb with time left on the clock. But I haven't checked the stats. Wade had no one to relieve the pressure when he got caught up. Bless the rook, but he's no play maker yet.

Dragic has absolutely disappointed me this playoffs. There's no doubt about that. But he should have been in the game.

I agree that was his best game defensively that I've seen. Sadly his offense wasn't there and worse his decision making and leadership skills were non-existent.

Maybe it'll all click on Friday.

[HIF]

Not trashing Wade because he did alot last night but he really needs to start shooting the wide wide wide open 3 teams are giving him. Last night reminded me of the Spurs series where they just flat out ignored Wade past the 3pt line

No he doesn't. Wasted possession. He has to take that wide open three and run down their throats making the 2 and getting the and1.

[HIF]

Not trashing Wade because he did alot last night but he really needs to start shooting the wide wide wide open 3 teams are giving him. Last night reminded me of the Spurs series where they just flat out ignored Wade past the 3pt line

And that's on Wade because he REFUSES to change his game and work on a 3pt shot.

Stupid comment.

I wonder why Phoenix never made Nash work on dunking in people's faces at every opportunity. that must be on Nash

[HIF]

Not trashing Wade because he did alot last night but he really needs to start shooting the wide wide wide open 3 teams are giving him. Last night reminded me of the Spurs series where they just flat out ignored Wade past the 3pt line

Doing the same to Winslow too. Lols.

Winslow is 19/ just 20. give the kid a break. He'll be a star in this league soon.

Winslow needs to understand that when your shots not dropping to take it to the basket.

[HIF]

Gotta credit Clifford for limiting Hassan's touches and putting a fire under his ass on defense. I, like many of us, knew Hassan was key in this series and he almost completely took him out of the game

The three big line-ups with Zeller-Jefferson-Kamisky-Hawes-Williams are payin' dividens too, while all we got in closet is Deng at C

From the bigs to the guards, they got us all figured out. Going to be interesting to see how we approach this next game, which will probably just mean more minutes for Wade... I just wanna' see Tyler take Green's minutes at least

And that's where we miss Chris most.

If he were available the Heat would be killing Charlotte's big3.

Remember in our last playoffs how much easier Charlotte were after Big Al went down.

[KingDavid]

Not trashing Wade because he did alot last night but he really needs to start shooting the wide wide wide open 3 teams are giving him. Last night reminded me of the Spurs series where they just flat out ignored Wade past the 3pt line

Doing the same to Winslow too. Lols.

Winslow is 19/ just 20. give the kid a break. He'll be a star in this league soon.

Winslow needs to understand that when your shots not dropping to take it to the basket.

Preaching to the choir, hif.

[DWadeno3]

For all the talks of Wade hurting our spacing, that is only true when he sits in the corner or the perimeter on the weakside. Once he touches the ball, you can see defenders closing out hard on him. They don't sag off on the pick-and-roll, don't give him any space, they're constantly in his face when he has the ball. As I said, the only time Wade's lack of outside shooting becomes a problem is when he sits on the weakside and given how much else he gives us, he's the last guy I'm gonna complain about. He did what he was supposed to do, he constantly attacked and created ad dropped 25 on good efficiency along with 5 assists.

As for Dragic, he is being held back by the fact that two of his major strengths happen to be two of the major reasons our offense was so successful:

1) Our fast break game
2) Scoring in the paint

Both are being taken away by the Hornets, the latter by them constantly playing with two big guys, which allows them to close out hard and still challenge shots in the paint. Dragic is average to poor when finishing against one or two bigs, as he doesn't possess the strength or leaping ability to score. Dragic's scoring ability in the paint is mostly a result of his craftiness, which becomes useless when there's simply a large wall in front of you.
Hence they can chase him off the three-point line, can challenge his layups and limit his impact by also eliminating our transition game.

Even Wade has struggled against that adjustment and if you look at the baskets he had to score to get his 25, there are plenty of really tough ones amongst them, shots that Dragic simply can't make.

[HialeahHeatFan]

Why do I keep seeing people say Wade had a good game. Was I the only one that saw lazy passes, passes to dengs feet, Hassan's knees, 2 feet away from shooting rythm above dengs shoulder. Those turn overs were ridiculous. He was awfully lazy on his defense, kept trying for steals in passing lanes getting burned, no switches on pick and rolls forcing perimeter help to leave open 3pt shooters. I saw everyone else suck too, but this is our leader setting a terrible example. Trying to leak out and allowing lee to get back breaking offensive rebounds. Pounding the ball aland losing all the clock like somehow it's a garranteed score and you don't need another possession. That is unacceptable.

[HIF]

Why do I keep seeing people say Wade had a good game. Was I the only one that saw lazy passes, passes to dengs feet, Hassan's knees, 2 feet away from shooting rythm above dengs shoulder. Those turn overs were ridiculous. He was awfully lazy on his defense, kept trying for steals in passing lanes getting burned, no switches on pick and rolls forcing perimeter help to leave open 3pt shooters. I saw everyone else suck too, but this is our leader setting a terrible example. Trying to leak out and allowing lee to get back breaking offensive rebounds. Pounding the ball aland losing all the clock like somehow it's a garranteed score and you don't need another possession. That is unacceptable.

Go to hell, purple shirt man.