All-Time Fantasy Draft With FGA Limit - Meta Thread

[AustinCarr61]

Can't imagine I took your guy so enjoy

Yeah, already regretting that one. Still, such is life. REALLY wanted Terry Porter to fall to here.

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Damn, I was coveting Battier. Role players now flying off the board, while it looks like a lot of megastars won't get drafted at all.

[Texas Chuck]

Come on, Rodman shot 32/101 from three that one season. If he misses three more he's a 29% shooter. The previous year he went 6/30 and the following year he went 15/73, in similar situations. He was not a good or even average three point shooter.

LOL. I really wish I hadn't even brought it up. I know the GM who actually took him isn't trying to sell him as a spacer. I just looked it up out of curiosity and was surprised how well he did shoot it that year(for him, not in general obviously). Please pardon this digression--tho technically as I understand this game Dennis Rodman should be treated as a 32% 3-pt shooter.

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Come on, Rodman shot 32/101 from three that one season. If he misses three more he's a 29% shooter. The previous year he went 6/30 and the following year he went 15/73, in similar situations. He was not a good or even average three point shooter.

LOL. I really wish I hadn't even brought it up. I know the GM who actually took him isn't trying to sell him as a spacer. I just looked it up out of curiosity and was surprised how well he did shoot it that year(for him, not in general obviously). Please pardon this digression--tho technically as I understand this game Dennis Rodman should be treated as a 32% 3-pt shooter.

Don't mean to pile on -- I won't say any more about it after this post. But that's not how I understand the game. Maybe we just differ philosophically. Yes, Rodman made 32% of his threes in '92, but that doesn't mean that 32% should be our most accurate assessment of his three point shooting ability. There is no evidence that he actually improved his three point stroke that season, and it's far more likely that he had a slight random fluke and shot better than expected. If you flip a coin a hundred times, you have about a 3% shot of getting 60+ heads. Doesn't mean the coin is biased.

[AustinCarr61]

Damn, I was coveting Battier. Role players now flying off the board, while it looks like a lot of megastars won't get drafted at all.

Thanks for that, as I was worried I was going out on a limb with Battier.

I just like the idea of a lineup where prime Wade is the worst defender.

Now just need to see if my other target lasts.

[MisterHibachi]

Sorry guys, didn't know I was up (and have been out most of the night).

I'll continue the role player theme and select:

Shane Battier, SF

Not sure what year yet; will depend on the other players I get as to whether I can squeeze in a high RAPM year. Gives me good flexibility as has several good options. Felt with Wade/Duncan I needed a bit more 3 and not quite DPOY D relative to alternatives. More later when not half drunk.

I think pretty much everyone had this guy on their draft board coming up. Ultimate low shot, glue guy. I would go with 2013 here, played a lot of 4 that year, hit the three well, only 5 shots per game.

[AustinCarr61]

Sorry guys, didn't know I was up (and have been out most of the night).

I'll continue the role player theme and select:

Shane Battier, SF

Not sure what year yet; will depend on the other players I get as to whether I can squeeze in a high RAPM year. Gives me good flexibility as has several good options. Felt with Wade/Duncan I needed a bit more 3 and not quite DPOY D relative to alternatives. More later when not half drunk.

I think pretty much everyone had this guy on their draft board coming up. Ultimate low shot, glue guy. I would go with 2013 here, played a lot of 4 that year, hit the three well, only 5 shots per game.

I think 2013 is why I took him so early (as that year would be useful to a lot of teams under modern rules) but with Draymond in the fold I'm unsure as to whether it's the best fit for me. I'm inclined to go with an early Houston year where he's shooting loads of 3s at a high clip and playing great defense 2-3.5.

Some of the reason I'm nervous about the value of the pick is I'm doing another fantasy draft at present which is VERY different - Battier is my 12th man (running CP3-Reggie-LBJ-KG-DRob as my starters with Chauncey and Manu off the bench) so the mental adjustment of value is significant.

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[Dr Spaceman]

Give me Klay Thompson.



I get why people shied away from him, but he's a luxury I can definitely afford here. Frankly I think he's the 2nd GOAT 3 point shooter, but Even more than that I think he's more well-rounded than most of the sharpshooters being drafted. He actually has a really good dribble drive game, and his defense and athleticism at the position I really want. I like his ability to switch, his agility to hang with quicker guys, and his strong base. He moves off the ball so well and can thrive off screens from Sheed and Magic's playmaking. He's got some seriously expanded range too compared to most shooters, and he's absolutely lethal on the fast break. I also think he's better at getting shots off in traffic than most guys.

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[E-Balla]

With my fourth pick I'm picking 2009 Ray Allen (13.2 FGAs)

Offensively he was uber efficient from every spot on the floor, had 48/41/95 shooting splits, was an above average defender, and was a first option in a low volume role. With Nash-Allen-*****-McHale-Walton I don't think anyone else could top my offensive firepower.

I was really surprised when Allen wasn't taken somewhere in the first 3 rounds. I'd definitely call him a steal.

I think there's a few sharpshooters I would've taken over him, including 15 Korver. If I hadn't taken Kobe, I would really be zeroing in on these shooting guards right now.

You're up, I believe.

Well I didn't just want a shooter I wanted a scorer. Korver - for all of his shooting - is still a role player that's not hard to stop (in 2015 he averaged 11 ppg, shot 43% from deep, and had a 111 ORTG vs top 10 defenses and he averaged 11 ppg on 35% shooting from deep in the playoffs). Great pick when you just need shooting but he's a less dynamic player for sure.

[MisterHibachi]

I was really surprised when Allen wasn't taken somewhere in the first 3 rounds. I'd definitely call him a steal.

I think there's a few sharpshooters I would've taken over him, including 15 Korver. If I hadn't taken Kobe, I would really be zeroing in on these shooting guards right now.

You're up, I believe.

Well I didn't just want a shooter I wanted a scorer. Korver - for all of his shooting - is still a role player that's not hard to stop (in 2015 he averaged 11 ppg, shot 43% from deep, and had a 111 ORTG vs top 10 defenses and he averaged 11 ppg on 35% shooting from deep in the playoffs). Great pick when you just need shooting but he's a less dynamic player for sure.

Do you really need a scorer though? You have Nash and then Walton. You pretty much need to stock up on finishers now. Allen is obviously pretty great at that, but Korver had a better season on less shots.

[wojoaderge]

Well, last time I said I wouldn't do this again, but here I am, choosing someone I was never a big fan with my very next pick. I could start him at the 4, start him at the 3, or bring him off the bench



I'm quite unsure at this point what year i'll go with, but it'll likely be a Philly season

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[Dr Spaceman]

I think there's a few sharpshooters I would've taken over him, including 15 Korver. If I hadn't taken Kobe, I would really be zeroing in on these shooting guards right now.

Well I didn't just want a shooter I wanted a scorer. Korver - for all of his shooting - is still a role player that's not hard to stop (in 2015 he averaged 11 ppg, shot 43% from deep, and had a 111 ORTG vs top 10 defenses and he averaged 11 ppg on 35% shooting from deep in the playoffs). Great pick when you just need shooting but he's a less dynamic player for sure.

Do you really need a scorer though? You have Nash and then Walton. You pretty much need to stock up on finishers now. Allen is obviously pretty great at that, but Korver had a better season on less shots.

I can see both sides of this. Korver is obviously excellent in this format, and on some level he's probably a better pure shooter, and thus finisher, than Allen, but I think there's always an argument for just picking the better player. Allen can do some things, like attack close outs off the dribble, short pin downs for cuts to the basket, work the mid range, and handle the ball in transition. Things aren't always going to go perfectly, and when push comes to shove Allen's marginal benefits can add up to a lot.

[Timmaytime]

I'll keep the role player trend going because I imagine the stars I want will be around for a while..

I'll take Charles Oakley

[Timmaytime]

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[Statlanta]

If there's anything I'm learning from this Fantasy Draft it's that doing writeups against Woj and his players are going to be hell with the research

[Timmaytime]

If there's anything I'm learning from this Fantasy Draft it's that doing writeups against Woj and his players are going to be hell with the research

I know Moncrief fairly well (I wanted him..), i've had some experience with Jones and McAdoo but I had literally never heard of Fred Brown lol

keeps us on our toes I guess

[theonlyclutch]

I'm really, really surprised that this guy isn't taken yet...

What's better than one Manu? Two Manus!

Obviously a player can't be picked twice, but one can get the closest alternative..

I take James Harden (2012)

2012 6MOY, an elite playmaker, who averaged over 1.00ppp in all playtypes, 1.03 ppp in ISOs good for 7th in league, efficient as hell (66.0% TS, 125 ORTG) is a great shooter, monster foul-drawer, for only 10.1 FGAs, sold! Meshed well with KD + WB in OKC as well

I get a lot of line-up versatility with either Manu or Harden coming from the bench, or lineups with both starting, all 3 of my backcourt guys are exceptional foul drawers, great playmakers and good/great shooters..

[theonlyclutch]

You're up.