mihail_petkov wrote:Riko wrote:mihail_petkov wrote:KAT is very very good passer The problem is Wolves can't spread the floor because they don't have shooters - Rubio, Wiggins, Prince/Lavine, Dieng were starters during the year. Only Lavine is a good shooter.
Yeah, Denver instead is the land of shooter... Both teams have the exact same 3P% (33,8%). However few of the Jokic's assist came of the post, so spreading the floor isn't so important to him.
I repeat for the last time: I'm not saying that KAT is a bad passer (or have bad court vision), I'm saying Jokic is better in this particular aspect of the game and
his advance stats are awesome.
I didn't want to make a comparison between Jokic and KAT, but there is a reason because their advance stats are pretty similar and it isn't because "advanced stats can be flawed". Malone use Jokic's strengh very well and the advance stats show that...
Most minutes for Wolves (>20mpg):Wiggins: 30.0% 3P
Rubio: 32.0% 3P
Lavine: 38.9% 3P
Dieng: 30.0% 3P
Shabazz: 28.9% 3P
Prince: 17.4% 3P
Martin: 36.9% 3P (less than 1/2 season when KAT played only 20mpg)
Overall: 4.6 / 13.7 33%
Without Martin: 3.6 / 11.1 32%
Lavine and 1/2 season Martin are the best shooters. The rest of the team is trash.
Most minutes for Nuggets (>20mpg):Gallinari: 36.4% 3P
Harris: 35.4% 3P
Mudiay: 31.9% 3P
Barton: 34.5% 3P
Nelson: 29.9% 3P
Faried: 50.0% 3P
Augustin: 41.1% 3P
Arthur: 38.8% 3P
Overall: 8.8 / 25.0 35%
Except Nelson and Mudiay, others are really good shooters.
Overall Nuggets's best players shoot 3% higher on twice more 3 point attempts than Wolves best players.
I love how you point out how Martin only played half the season and KAT was playing less mpg at the time. Yet somehow you throw Gallo, Augustin, and Nelson into the mix...and don't mention they only played a combined 120 games for the Nuggets this season, out of a possible 246. Then you throw Faried into the mix as one of the Nuggets best 3pt shooters, because he made 1 out of 2 attempts on the season? I don't get why people always try to skew things to look an erroneous way just to make a point. All you do is lose credibility.
Nevertheless, it's all really irrelevant. As Riko mentioned, Jokic wasn't living in the post, drawing defenders and kicking it out for open threes very often. For the most part his assists came from the high post or even 3pt line, hitting backdoor cuts and feeding guys for layups. He's so versatile and has legit three point range himself, so he plays almost like a point-forward at times. His vision and feel for the game is impeccable, for both being a big man and a rookie.
Some of his dimes I could find on YouTube:
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDQRJq8fwfg[/youtube]
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzSnbsGZL24[/youtube]
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jZ1CRRq6Hc[/youtube]
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVEciqfa3bU[/youtube]
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLcWarHG_mg[/youtube]
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7sYj0ePAUA[/youtube]