This is a 3 player draft, not a 2 player draft

[London2Boston]

I think it is likely it is more than a 2 player draft. Hell the consensus top 2 May not even be the best two players in the end...the problem is that it is an absolute crapshoot outside of the top 2 as to who will end up being THAT guy.

[RajonsGotARondo]

Buddy will be the best from this draft class. Rather keep pick draft him...

[Ed Pinkney]

What is the success rate of pre-draft prognostications over the last 30 years? About 5%? Maybe less?

I have posted this before, but the lottery is not the ping pong balls, it is the actual draft night itself. The problem is that it usually takes a couple of years to find out if your ticket had the lucky numbers on it or not.

I personally never understand the number of black and white definitive statements that get thrown around at this time of year, Player X is going to be a multiple All Star, Player Y is going to be a bust, Player Z cant do a particular skill at the NBA level etc.

[Parliament10]

What is the success rate of pre-draft prognostications over the last 30 years? About 5%? Maybe less?

I have posted this before, but the lottery is not the ping pong balls, it is the actual draft night itself. The problem is that it usually takes a couple of years to find out if your ticket had the lucky numbers on it or not.

I personally never understand the number of black and white definitive statements that get thrown around at this time of year, Player X is going to be a multiple All Star, Player Y is going to be a bust, Player Z cant do a particular skill at the NBA level etc.

You have a very good point.
We have a #60 Draftee, who is our best player.
And a #2 Draftee, who is his backup.

You never know about prospects, until they are actually applied.

[The Rondo Show]

I share your Buddy Hield optimism, though I wouldn't quite put him up there with the top 2 (especially Simmons, not quite as sold on Ingram because I think there's more risk there, but his ceiling is at another level than Hield's). I do think he's better than the guys he gets lumped in with though and he'd be my clear cut choice at #3 with the possible exception of Bender who I'm not going to pretend I know a lot about, so I'll defer to Ainge on him.

Give me Hield over Murray though, age gap or not. Hield is just the better athlete with the quicker release and will have an easier time creating his shot in the NBA. Think he's got more defensive upside too due to the athleticism advantage, but not sure either will be a real asset at that end. I'm not a huge Kris Dunn fan either, least of all for the Celtics. We have enough young guards with questionable jumpers, and I think Dunn is closer to Smart athletically than he is some of the generational type athletes he sometimes gets compared to like Westbrook or Wall.

Like I said, don't think Hield has the ceiling of a Simmons or Ingram, but his ceiling is still pretty damn high, and I think his ridiculous shooting ability, lightning quick release, solid athleticism and his work ethic/competitiveness give him an extremely high floor. If we can't find a trade for a star at a reasonable price, and if Bender isn't Porzingis 2.0, Hield should definitely be the pick.

[DavorFanCroatia]

Bender looks bad to me, how is he better than Zeller or Olynyk in any way? He averaged 3.1 points a game, has limited rebounding and defense, I am obviously missing something.

Bender is not better than Zeller or Olynyk. He is very slow, no fluidity, no touch. Bender's only advantage is his size, and in NBA that means 0.

Man, you are way, way, way off

[jirrit]

At 28 points per-40, with a 67% TS%, only Doug McDermott can boast having as prolific and efficient season as Hield has in the last 20 years of college basketball.


Hield's perimeter shooting is as good of a place as any to start the conversation about his offensive game. His 147 3-pointers made (in 37 games) was by far the highest mark among all college players this year, and is tied for the highest total mark any college basketball player has achieved since Steph Curry made 162 back in 2008.

I like this about Hield. Maybe I'm more on the Hield-train. Problem is our backcourt is pretty set?

[Ben-N1ce]

At 28 points per-40, with a 67% TS%, only Doug McDermott can boast having as prolific and efficient season as Hield has in the last 20 years of college basketball.


Hield's perimeter shooting is as good of a place as any to start the conversation about his offensive game. His 147 3-pointers made (in 37 games) was by far the highest mark among all college players this year, and is tied for the highest total mark any college basketball player has achieved since Steph Curry made 162 back in 2008.

I like this about Hield. Maybe I'm more on the Hield-train. Problem is our backcourt is pretty set?

I don't see the back court set at all. Avery is the only one that can shoot. I don't know Hield ceiling and I guess that is the problem. The one trait I like is that he does ludicrous work ethic by all accounts. They type of player that can reach whatever ceiling he has. That can minimize screwing up the pick. On top of he obviously can flat out shoot and he has to try to carry an offense and the other team knows that and he still lit them up. I'm anti Bender so for me it's Dunn, Hield or Murray.

[KFL]

I like Hield and Dunn. I just feel the C's are in a tough position since they really need front court help and well there really isnt any where they are picking. Hield or Dunn would be good adds but not sure how much they would help right away with so many backcourt players already on this team.

[jirrit]

At 28 points per-40, with a 67% TS%, only Doug McDermott can boast having as prolific and efficient season as Hield has in the last 20 years of college basketball.


Hield's perimeter shooting is as good of a place as any to start the conversation about his offensive game. His 147 3-pointers made (in 37 games) was by far the highest mark among all college players this year, and is tied for the highest total mark any college basketball player has achieved since Steph Curry made 162 back in 2008.

I like this about Hield. Maybe I'm more on the Hield-train. Problem is our backcourt is pretty set?

I don't see the back court set at all. Avery is the only one that can shoot. I don't know Hield ceiling and I guess that is the problem. The one trait I like is that he does ludicrous work ethic by all accounts. They type of player that can reach whatever ceiling he has. That can minimize screwing up the pick. On top of he obviously can flat out shoot and he has to try to carry an offense and the other team knows that and he still lit them up. I'm anti Bender so for me it's Dunn, Hield or Murray.

IT, Smart, AB, Hield, Rozier.

That's Turner gone I guess (I'm a fan ).

That backcourt gives you defense and offense, no?

[DakoBarr]

I'd rather take the 7' shooter than the 6'4 one.

[chakdaddy]

What is the success rate of pre-draft prognostications over the last 30 years? About 5%? Maybe less?

I have posted this before, but the lottery is not the ping pong balls, it is the actual draft night itself. The problem is that it usually takes a couple of years to find out if your ticket had the lucky numbers on it or not.

I personally never understand the number of black and white definitive statements that get thrown around at this time of year, Player X is going to be a multiple All Star, Player Y is going to be a bust, Player Z cant do a particular skill at the NBA level etc.

You have a very good point.
We have a #60 Draftee, who is our best player.
And a #2 Draftee, who is his backup.

You never know about prospects, until they are actually applied.

And both are garbage as far as building a team

[Fencer reregistered]

At 28 points per-40, with a 67% TS%, only Doug McDermott can boast having as prolific and efficient season as Hield has in the last 20 years of college basketball.


Hield's perimeter shooting is as good of a place as any to start the conversation about his offensive game. His 147 3-pointers made (in 37 games) was by far the highest mark among all college players this year, and is tied for the highest total mark any college basketball player has achieved since Steph Curry made 162 back in 2008.

I like this about Hield. Maybe I'm more on the Hield-train. Problem is our backcourt is pretty set?

We could trade one of Bradley or Smart without nuking team chemistry, as long as we keep Thomas and Crowder. And Rozier et al. haven't proved enough to keep us from trading for a star guard or drafting a potential star.

Besides, as others have noted -- all our main guards have contracts that run out in 2 years or less. Crowders the only one of that -- er, of that crowd, who's locked up for a long time.

[DarkAzcura]

What is the success rate of pre-draft prognostications over the last 30 years? About 5%? Maybe less?

I have posted this before, but the lottery is not the ping pong balls, it is the actual draft night itself. The problem is that it usually takes a couple of years to find out if your ticket had the lucky numbers on it or not.

I personally never understand the number of black and white definitive statements that get thrown around at this time of year, Player X is going to be a multiple All Star, Player Y is going to be a bust, Player Z cant do a particular skill at the NBA level etc.

You have a very good point.
We have a #60 Draftee, who is our best player.
And a #2 Draftee, who is his backup.

You never know about prospects, until they are actually applied.

And both are garbage as far as building a team

Garbage? Okaaaaay, bud.

[Parliament10]

You have a very good point.
We have a #60 Draftee, who is our best player.
And a #2 Draftee, who is his backup.

You never know about prospects, until they are actually applied.

And both are garbage as far as building a team

Garbage? Okaaaaay, bud.

Let me get this Straight. Chakdaddy.

Isaiah Thomas, All-Star
& Evan Turner, 6th-Man

Those two are garbage?

[chakdaddy]

And both are garbage as far as building a team

Garbage? Okaaaaay, bud.

Let me get this Straight. Chakdaddy.

Isaiah Thomas, All-Star
& Evan Turner, 6th-Man

Those two are garbage?

Scrap heap role players. That's where we got them right? They're treadmill shackles.