2016 draft thread: Part 2

[Devilzsidewalk]

I'm very high on the Jamal Murray train.

Jamal Murray scored 20ppg on great percentages as a freshman.

There have been 22 seasons in NCAA History scoring 20ppg, taking more than 7.5 3s a game, hitting on better than 40% of 3s and better than 45% from the field. Only 2 were freshman. Steph Curry is the only one who put up a better season than Jamal Murray as a freshman. Murray was 12th no matter the class.

Imagine if he stayed through his senior year.

Other guys I like are Skal Labissiere, Marquese Chriss, Deyonta Davis, Denzel Valentine, Timothe Luwawu, Furkan Korkmaz, Wade Baldwin, and Ben Bentil. not necessarily that order.

I am on the same page, Murray is my top realistic choice (I don't see Bender making it past PHX). I just think his skill set and versatility, especially at his age, is too good pass up. It's too bad that the PF's in this draft class are weak on top end talent.

that physical profile worries me a little bit - I prefer Hield for that reason

[john2jer]

I'm very high on the Jamal Murray train.

Jamal Murray scored 20ppg on great percentages as a freshman.

There have been 22 seasons in NCAA History scoring 20ppg, taking more than 7.5 3s a game, hitting on better than 40% of 3s and better than 45% from the field. Only 2 were freshman. Steph Curry is the only one who put up a better season than Jamal Murray as a freshman. Murray was 12th no matter the class.

Imagine if he stayed through his senior year.

Other guys I like are Skal Labissiere, Marquese Chriss, Deyonta Davis, Denzel Valentine, Timothe Luwawu, Furkan Korkmaz, Wade Baldwin, and Ben Bentil. not necessarily that order.

I am on the same page, Murray is my top realistic choice (I don't see Bender making it past PHX). I just think his skill set and versatility, especially at his age, is too good pass up. It's too bad that the PF's in this draft class are weak on top end talent.

that physical profile worries me a little bit - I prefer Hield for that reason

Murray's vs Hield's physical profile? I'm baffled by that one considering there isn't much difference, especially considering the 3 year age difference.

[Devilzsidewalk]

I am on the same page, Murray is my top realistic choice (I don't see Bender making it past PHX). I just think his skill set and versatility, especially at his age, is too good pass up. It's too bad that the PF's in this draft class are weak on top end talent.

that physical profile worries me a little bit - I prefer Hield for that reason

Murray's vs Hield's physical profile? I'm baffled by that one considering there isn't much difference, especially considering the 3 year age difference.

Hield has 4 inches of reach on him and a ripped sexy body.

[john2jer]

Just wait until Jamal Murray goes through puberty.

[Raymond437]

How about #5 for Noel?

[Saltine]

How about #5 for Noel?

Nope. **** for brains.
https://www.tmz.com/2016/04/08/nerlens-noel-sued-worst-renter-ever-weed-gatorade-stains-and-death-threats/

[vagelis]

My choices at the fifth selection pick

1)Kris Dunn or Jaylen Brown
3)Buddy Hield
4)Marquesse Chriss
5)Jamal Murray


[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCS5qxOzYa8[/youtube]

[Krapinsky]

I think Dunn is an average PG prospect that is getting hyped up by being in a weak PG class. No way i take him top 5 and then have him split minutes playing SG. I'd even take Valentine over Dunn.

[Worm Guts]

The only real concern I have with Dunn at SG is the shooting, otherwise he compares favorably to Hield Murray, and Valentine defensively and ability to get to the rim. Of course the Wolves probably need to put extra emphasis on shooting.

[Takingbaconback]

Dunn is a PG. if he gets drafted by the wolves, he's going to supplant tyus immediately and will look to take over for Rubio in a year or two

[vagelis]

I agree, Dunn is clear a pg and a good pg.
He is a two way player with offense and defense.
I think that Dunn is a better version of Mudiay and he has some similarities with D.Wade's athleticism.
Jamal Murray is very talented in offence but because of lack of athleticism he seems a mediocre or bad defender.

If we draft Kris Dunn, I think he will start in the lineup from the first year.

[Klomp]

If Dunn was better as a shooter, would everyone still insist he is a PG only? I guess I still don't understand why the general consensus is that he's incapable of playing SG.

[C.lupus]

If Dunn was better as a shooter, would everyone still insist he is a PG only? I guess I still don't understand why the general consensus is that he's incapable of playing SG.

Because A. The 'S' in SG stands for shooting and he's very inconsistent at that, and B. He's undersized - shorter than "undesized" Buddy Hield. He'd probably be fine defensively at either position, though.

[Klomp]

If Dunn was better as a shooter, would everyone still insist he is a PG only? I guess I still don't understand why the general consensus is that he's incapable of playing SG.

Because A. The 'S' in SG stands for shooting and he's very inconsistent at that, and B. He's undersized - shorter than "undesized" Buddy Hield. He'd probably be fine defensively at either position, though.

He's the same size as Tony Allen. I guess NBA teams don't know as much as experts here, because apparently Tony Allen should be only capable of playing PG as well. And yet, he's somehow carved out a 12-year career as a SG/SF.

[Murphs56]

I agree, Dunn is clear a pg and a good pg.
He is a two way player with offense and defense.
I think that Dunn is a better version of Mudiay and he has some similarities with D.Wade's athleticism.
Jamal Murray is very talented in offence but because of lack of athleticism he seems a mediocre or bad defender.

If we draft Kris Dunn, I think he will start in the lineup from the first year.

Agreed. Dunn is the pick for me. Of the 3, Hield/Murray/Dunn, I think he'll be the most coveted. He's got all the measurables you want, and definitely has the most potential to be a 2 way player at the next level. Like you said, Murray's lack of lateral quickness and athleticism scares me about his ability to guard at the next level.

[Worm Guts]

If Dunn was better as a shooter, would everyone still insist he is a PG only? I guess I still don't understand why the general consensus is that he's incapable of playing SG.

Because A. The 'S' in SG stands for shooting and he's very inconsistent at that, and B. He's undersized - shorter than "undesized" Buddy Hield. He'd probably be fine defensively at either position, though.

He has the same wingspan and I would think he's a better defensive prospect even viewed strictly against SG's. He's also the same height as Murray with a much bigger wingspan.

[Crazy-Canuck]

Watching cojo lockdown irving, i think dunn could bring the same energy and defensive presence.

As bad as the starting unit were defensively this year, the core unit (kat/rubio/wiggs) was also one of the best to start the year. Dunn could be the guy to give us better balance. Murray, hield or elleson would give us more offense, but dunn would help get more wins.

I think dunn and lavine would give us a good 2 headed monster at sg where their games dont overlap.

[Takingbaconback]

You mean Dunn and Rubio will give us a good 2 headed monster at PG lul. Listening to Dunn talk, the guy is very proud of who he is, and he will be the first one to say that he is a PG. Why would you put Rubio and Dunn together when you can just put Rubio or Dunn with somebody who can flat out shoot the ball?

[Murphs56]

Watching cojo lockdown irving, i think dunn could bring the same energy and defensive presence.

As bad as the starting unit were defensively this year, the core unit (kat/rubio/wiggs) was also one of the best to start the year. Dunn could be the guy to give us better balance. Murray, hield or elleson would give us more offense, but dunn would help get more wins.

I think dunn and lavine would give us a good 2 headed monster at sg where their games dont overlap.

Dunn could help a ton with LaVine's defensive deficiencies. He'll probably be able to guard both positions from day 1.

[Klomp]

You mean Dunn and Rubio will give us a good 2 headed monster at PG lul. Listening to Dunn talk, the guy is very proud of who he is, and he will be the first one to say that he is a PG. Why would you put Rubio and Dunn together when you can just put Rubio or Dunn with somebody who can flat out shoot the ball?

A Rubio/Dunn backcourt would be a defensive nightmare for other teams to score on. We are capable to score plenty of points. What we need to improve is our defense.