2016 draft thread: Part 2

[Murphs56]

You mean Dunn and Rubio will give us a good 2 headed monster at PG lul. Listening to Dunn talk, the guy is very proud of who he is, and he will be the first one to say that he is a PG. Why would you put Rubio and Dunn together when you can just put Rubio or Dunn with somebody who can flat out shoot the ball?

A Rubio/Dunn backcourt would be a defensive nightmare for other teams to score on. We are capable to score plenty of points. What we need to improve is our defense.

I'd be surprised if Rubio's handlers are quiet if the Wolves draft Dunn. The rumors and "wanting out" narrative will flow and flow fast imo

[Klomp]

I'd be surprised if Rubio's handlers are quiet if the Wolves draft Dunn. The rumors and "wanting out" narrative will flow and flow fast imo

Good for them. Last I checked, Rubio's handlers don't run the Minnesota Timberwolves.

[Krapinsky]

You mean Dunn and Rubio will give us a good 2 headed monster at PG lul. Listening to Dunn talk, the guy is very proud of who he is, and he will be the first one to say that he is a PG. Why would you put Rubio and Dunn together when you can just put Rubio or Dunn with somebody who can flat out shoot the ball?

A Rubio/Dunn backcourt would be a defensive nightmare for other teams to score on. We are capable to score plenty of points. What we need to improve is our defense.

A Rubio / Dunn backcourt would not be able to score. I think you need guards that can score much more than you need guards that can play defense. With the hand check rules the way that they are, even the best perimeter defenders can only do so much.

It's probably not a huge coincidence that the final 4 teams have Kyrie, Westbrook, Curry, and Lowry.

[Worm Guts]

You mean Dunn and Rubio will give us a good 2 headed monster at PG lul. Listening to Dunn talk, the guy is very proud of who he is, and he will be the first one to say that he is a PG. Why would you put Rubio and Dunn together when you can just put Rubio or Dunn with somebody who can flat out shoot the ball?

A Rubio/Dunn backcourt would be a defensive nightmare for other teams to score on. We are capable to score plenty of points. What we need to improve is our defense.

A Rubio / Dunn backcourt would not be able to score. I think you need guards that can score much more than you need guards that can play defense. With the hand check rules the way that they are, even the best perimeter defenders can only do so much.

It's probably not a huge coincidence that the final 4 teams have Kyrie, Westbrook, Curry, and Lowry.

I don't think will have much problem getting to the rim himself, he'll be able to score, although I would be worried about the lack of shooting from a Dunn/Rubio backcourt. I'm also worried it would cause some tension on the team.

[minimus]

You mean Dunn and Rubio will give us a good 2 headed monster at PG lul. Listening to Dunn talk, the guy is very proud of who he is, and he will be the first one to say that he is a PG. Why would you put Rubio and Dunn together when you can just put Rubio or Dunn with somebody who can flat out shoot the ball?

A Rubio/Dunn backcourt would be a defensive nightmare for other teams to score on. We are capable to score plenty of points. What we need to improve is our defense.

A Rubio / Dunn backcourt would not be able to score. I think you need guards that can score much more than you need guards that can play defense. With the hand check rules the way that they are, even the best perimeter defenders can only do so much.

It's probably not a huge coincidence that the final 4 teams have Kyrie, Westbrook, Curry, and Lowry.

Well, it is very simplified vision of our needs. There are a lot of things that we need to consider: Rubio hyperactive style of play (high risk of injuries, a lot of energy spent on the floor) shooting woes, average finisher at rim, long NBA calendar with b2b games, road trips etc and Tuys is far from decent NBA player, and we have no backup for SG, we have no quality defender at SG.

I see why we can draft Dunn and successfully plug him into our team. GSW has Igoudala from the bench and it did create some tension, but winning cures all chemistry questions. This is one thing that I would like to focus on. I truly believe that if we stuck into mediocrity and losing then it will be antimodel of development because of this.

[Worm Guts]

A couple of concerns I have about Murray-
He's the smallest of the guards
He gets to the line the significantly less than Dunn or Hield

Doesn't mean I think we shouldn't draft him but this decision doesn't seem easy to me.

[minimus]

A couple of concerns I have about Murray-
He's the smallest of the guards
He gets to the line the significantly less than Dunn or Hield

Doesn't mean I think we shouldn't draft him but this decision doesn't seem easy to me.

Did he skip athletic tests? On DX site he has 39,5 max vert. But he doesn't look to me very explosive...

[Crazy-Canuck]

A couple of concerns I have about Murray-
He's the smallest of the guards
He gets to the line the significantly less than Dunn or Hield

Doesn't mean I think we shouldn't draft him but this decision doesn't seem easy to me.

Did he skip athletic tests? On DX site he has 39,5 max vert. But he doesn't look to me very explosive...

Murray is shifty and has plenty of feel for the game. He doesnt rely on athleticism to play his game.

[Crazy-Canuck]

A Rubio/Dunn backcourt would be a defensive nightmare for other teams to score on. We are capable to score plenty of points. What we need to improve is our defense.

A Rubio / Dunn backcourt would not be able to score. I think you need guards that can score much more than you need guards that can play defense. With the hand check rules the way that they are, even the best perimeter defenders can only do so much.

It's probably not a huge coincidence that the final 4 teams have Kyrie, Westbrook, Curry, and Lowry.

I don't think will have much problem getting to the rim himself, he'll be able to score, although I would be worried about the lack of shooting from a Dunn/Rubio backcourt. I'm also worried it would cause some tension on the team.

Tension from where?

[Worm Guts]

A Rubio / Dunn backcourt would not be able to score. I think you need guards that can score much more than you need guards that can play defense. With the hand check rules the way that they are, even the best perimeter defenders can only do so much.

It's probably not a huge coincidence that the final 4 teams have Kyrie, Westbrook, Curry, and Lowry.

I don't think will have much problem getting to the rim himself, he'll be able to score, although I would be worried about the lack of shooting from a Dunn/Rubio backcourt. I'm also worried it would cause some tension on the team.

Tension from where?

Rubio being worried about his status with the team.

[Crazy-Canuck]

I don't think will have much problem getting to the rim himself, he'll be able to score, although I would be worried about the lack of shooting from a Dunn/Rubio backcourt. I'm also worried it would cause some tension on the team.

Tension from where?

Rubio being worried about his status with the team.

Why would there be tension if they are starting in the backcourt together?

If anyone is going to be irked, its going to be jones. Even if dunn starts at sg, lavine will still get 30 minutes a game. We'll even see some dunne/lavine backcourt starting games when rubio needs a breather or his hurting.

[Worm Guts]

Tension from where?

Rubio being worried about his status with the team.

Why would there be tension if they are starting in the backcourt together?

If anyone is going to be irked, its going to be jones. Even if dunn starts at sg, lavine will still get 30 minutes a game. We'll even see some dunne/lavine backcourt starting games when rubio needs a breather or his hurting.

After the trade deadline last season I think Rubio would be a little shook if we took a PG.If Dunn ends up the starting SG I think that would ease some but I don't know if that will be the case.

[Feilong]

So Dunn a 6'4 who is at best a mediocre shooter, a bellow 70% FT shooter and who lacks defensive discipline is now the candidate to be Wolves starting SG? If you add than he is 22 and was playing mostly against 18-19y old players then you understand that even his current mediocre numbers are highly inflated.
Wolves fans never stop to amaze me.
A mediocre PG in a year that has zero quality PGs is MIN's solution for the SG position. FACEPALM!!!!

[Worm Guts]

So Dunn a 6'4 who is at best a mediocre shooter, a bellow 70% FT shooter and who lacks defensive discipline is now the candidate to be Wolves starting SG? If you add than he is 22 and was playing mostly against 18-19y old players then you understand that even his current mediocre numbers are highly inflated.
Wolves fans never stop to amaze me.
A mediocre PG in a year that has zero quality PGs is MIN's solution for the SG position. FACEPALM!!!!

There's probably zero players in this draft where you couldn't site some fault, then act like it's outrageous to draft him.

[Klomp]

Scoring isn't an issue for Dunn. He averaged 16 ppg and had a higher PER than Murray, Brown and Ingram.

[Feilong]

So Dunn a 6'4 who is at best a mediocre shooter, a bellow 70% FT shooter and who lacks defensive discipline is now the candidate to be Wolves starting SG? If you add than he is 22 and was playing mostly against 18-19y old players then you understand that even his current mediocre numbers are highly inflated.
Wolves fans never stop to amaze me.
A mediocre PG in a year that has zero quality PGs is MIN's solution for the SG position. FACEPALM!!!!

There's probably zero players in this draft where you couldn't site some fault, then act like it's outrageous to draft him.

This is a very weak draft. Everybody is saying it.
Outside of Simmons and Ingram, everybody else is projected to be a role player.
The outrageous thing is that you consider one of these players who has inflated numbers due to his age difference to be your starting SG. On top of that the guy is not even a SG. He doesn't have the height nor the shooting skills to play SG.
If you want to trade Rubio, yes pick Dunn and pray he can someday become a better player than Rubio. If not, Dunn makes zero sense.

[Klomp]

If you add than he is 22 and was playing mostly against 18-19y old players then you understand that even his current mediocre numbers are highly inflated.

Dunn was 21 during the season. The same age as Steph Curry, CJ McCollum and Damian Lillard ended their college careers.

[Klomp]

He doesn't have the height nor the shooting skills to play SG.

Hopefully you aren't campaigning for Murray because he's the same height.

[Crazy-Canuck]

So Dunn a 6'4 who is at best a mediocre shooter, a bellow 70% FT shooter and who lacks defensive discipline is now the candidate to be Wolves starting SG? If you add than he is 22 and was playing mostly against 18-19y old players then you understand that even his current mediocre numbers are highly inflated.
Wolves fans never stop to amaze me.
A mediocre PG in a year that has zero quality PGs is MIN's solution for the SG position. FACEPALM!!!!

There's probably zero players in this draft where you couldn't site some fault, then act like it's outrageous to draft him.

This is a very weak draft. Everybody is saying it.
Outside of Simmons and Ingram, everybody else is projected to be a role player.
The outrageous thing is that you consider one of these players who has inflated numbers due to his age difference to be your starting SG. On top of that the guy is not even a SG. He doesn't have the height nor the shooting skills to play SG.
If you want to trade Rubio, yes pick Dunn and pray he can someday become a better player than Rubio. If not, Dunn makes zero sense.

If you dont think dunn has the physical measurements to play sg, then neither does lavine.

Dunn is 6 "4, but has similar reach and a longer wingspan. Yes, he isnt the greatest shooter right now, but his shot isnt broken. He is a "do stuff" kind of guy; this team can use more of that.

Id prefer to trade out, but wouldnt be upset with dunn.

[Saltine]

Scoring isn't an issue for Dunn. He averaged 16 ppg and had a higher PER than Murray, Brown and Ingram.

The guy has had two major operations on his shoulder already... It's hard to be impressed with someone who wouldn't take a physical at the combine. If his shoulder is in great shape, it would seem to be wise to make that clear to the NBA. His 7 assists, 6 turnovers, and 8 fouls in two playoff games weren't all that impressive either.