Lakers 2016 NBA draft #2 pick discussion

[The Prodigy]

Randle is a top 5 apg for PF last season.

When Ben Simmons trying to be point forward, everyone go crazy, but when its Randle, they say "Stop it !"

i don't want Randle be superstar in another city. That just sad when we are busy talking about Simmons/Ingram and Russell, we forget about a diamond in rough that can give you great benefit when you polished him properly.

To be fair, Simmons is a much better ball handler and passer than Randle.

[Mirjalovic]

Randle is a top 5 apg for PF last season.

When Ben Simmons trying to be point forward, everyone go crazy, but when its Randle, they say "Stop it !"

i don't want Randle be superstar in another city. That just sad when we are busy talking about Simmons/Ingram and Russell, we forget about a diamond in rough that can give you great benefit when you polished him properly.

To be fair, Simmons is a much better ball handler and passer than Randle.

is he ? They just have different mentality. We don't know how good Randle's playmaking skill if he focused on playmaking, like Simmons, plus Randle already proven in NBA.

They basically have really same game apart passing game. Randle is in brutality mode, Simmons more finesse. I just can't wait next season when Randle play for Walton and say to all people "Look, thats the real Randle"

[stan francisco]

If we get Simmons andcdecidevto kerp him:

Why don't we play Randle at SF at times? I'm surprised I'm alone in suggesting it, and nobody replies whenever I do.

Randle's quick enough on his feet to guard SFs, and has the size and strength to dominate his SF opponents on both sides of the ball. He doesn't shoot well? He will get better this summer, but even if not, he could be our own DeRozan, lol, no shot but attacking the paint with fury. Seriously, with a PF that can stretch the floor, Im convinced Julius could play the three, make it his mission to guard wings like LBJ with a strength and quickness combo they'll have to work hard against, are not used to.

With that said, Simmons at the four might just work like a charm, should he fall to two. I'd prefer Ingram from what little I've seen of them, but we don't have to trade Randle to accept Simmons. Luke would probably agree. Randle could post up most threes in the league at will. We have enough shooters in Russell, Clarkson, Williams, Young, (Conley, although in sure the Spurs will be the smart team to lick him up for years) to spread the floor enough to allow Randle to post up, get putbacks and offensive boards. On the other end, he should be tutored by a Rick Fox on one-on-one defense, as well as by Luke for team defense.

Speed wins, but so does size. I want Russell at the two, but this is a lineup that has intimidating size.

Russell
Bazemore
Randle
Simmons
Whiteside

All are quick while big. Hard to counter that size.

[The Prodigy]

Randle is a top 5 apg for PF last season.

When Ben Simmons trying to be point forward, everyone go crazy, but when its Randle, they say "Stop it !"

i don't want Randle be superstar in another city. That just sad when we are busy talking about Simmons/Ingram and Russell, we forget about a diamond in rough that can give you great benefit when you polished him properly.

To be fair, Simmons is a much better ball handler and passer than Randle.

is he ? They just have different mentality. We don't know how good Randle's playmaking skill if he focused on playmaking, like Simmons, plus Randle already proven in NBA.

They basically have really same game apart passing game. Randle is in brutality mode, Simmons more finesse. I just can't wait next season when Randle play for Walton and say to all people "Look, thats the real Randle"

This playmaking "real Randle" you speak of has yet to reveal himself. He might just be a figment of your imagination. Simmons showcased outstanding ball handling and passing at LSU (aka the real world).

[Mirjalovic]

I don't know if 10 assist game was a figment in my imagination, but Randle did that in NBA aka the real-est world.

my point is, Randle and Simmons game is basically the same, all drive no shooting. Randle shooting over 50% in college, but when in NBA he struggle to adjust and only shooting about 43%. When Simmons shooting 43% in his first year, will you guys defend him ? No, its probably only me who defend him.

[ArC_man]

I think the Spurs this year have the "modern" blueprint for how a team should play if its best offensive threat is a big. Similar to how Memphis used to play, they slow the game down and play elite defense but they're able to maintain an elite offense. Unfortunately I don't see Okafor anchoring a top 5 defense in the league in his prime so I don't see the point of trying to build a contending team around Okafor.

[The Prodigy]

I don't know if 10 assist game was a figment in my imagination, but Randle did that in NBA aka the real-est world.

my point is, Randle and Simmons game is basically the same, all drive no shooting. Randle shooting over 50% in college, but when in NBA he struggle to adjust and only shooting about 43%. When Simmons shooting 43% in his first year, will you guys defend him ? No, its probably only me who defend him.

One 10 assist game does not a playmaker make. In any case, we're derailing the thread so I'll move on.

[mambo]

I hate when heard Bender could be the second pick.....

[Gus McCrae]

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Colangelo seems like he's trying to let Simmons know that if he wants to pick him he will but it seems like a weak point, I think they'll go with Ingram if Simmons declines to meet with them. If they're going to draft Simmons, they'll do so against his wishes but they won't be able to convince him otherwise if they care to, that's why I think they avoid adding more potential headaches to an already dire situation and take Ingram. Both players are worthy of building around and Ingram shows no signs of being anything less than a star at the next level.

To me it seems for better or worse, we're stuck with Simmons at 2. Would love Ingram though man, perfect fit immediately

It seems like Simmons is a lock for the 76ers

[Gus McCrae]

Also if offered I'd trade Randle for Embiid in a second.

I'd probably pull the trigger as well though it's a scary move for us. Randle is progressing and when he starts passing and hitting jumpers to go with his bull in a china shop mentality I really like him. Plus he's a Laker die hard.

[Goudelock]

Man, that Duke4Life831 guy makes Bandon Ingram sound like the next MJ, while Ben Simmons is a slightly better version of Moe Evans.

[Spens1]

Also if offered I'd trade Randle for Embiid in a second.

I'd probably pull the trigger as well though it's a scary move for us. Randle is progressing and when he starts passing and hitting jumpers to go with his bull in a china shop mentality I really like him. Plus he's a Laker die hard.

would not touch

Embiid is no certainty to stay healthy whilst Randle is at least somewhat proven.

[NBAWestFan]

Well looks like the consensus
is Simmons to Philly.

So by default Ingram (next Durant) comes to LAL. No need to trade him for anyone.
Simmons maybe the next Lebron. Not too bad lost out on the next Lebron to get the next Durant.

It will take Patients. Start building a Front line and don't sign anyone crazy contracts.
Like the T wolves don't have big contracts I would taken that approach and wait till the right moment.
Just cause you have the $ does not mean you spend it.

I would like KD & WB, since the run they made makes it less likely. I would be patient.

No to Okafor or any bad trades.

I would be interest in 2017 draft picks.

Ingram has the potential to be a force as Simmons.

[moonpie]

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[AcecardZ]

I'm not going to count my chickens before the eggs have hatched.

[moonpie]

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[Spens1]

yeah Philly may throw a curveball and go with Ingram.

[ArC_man]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/Mike_Bresnahan/status/735214720085426176[/tweet]

Waiting until the Warriors get eliminated I see.

[SashAlex]

I'm all in for Ingram after watching more videos with him. Both of them are gonna be special, but I kinda have become attracted by Ingram's size, offense, quickness, defense and looks like a killer instinct.

Either way, we're in a great position.

[Karmaloop]

Either way, we're in a great position.

Pretty much. I don't think there's much argument that Simmons is the better player right now, but Ingram's shooting gives him the edge in terms of value for me assuming both hit their ceilings.