Lakers 2016 NBA draft #2 pick discussion

[cashflo]

They essential don't know Simmons.. Only thru tape and coaches words.

Personally I think Simmons will fall to the Lakers.

Or, you know, the fact that Brett Brown has basically known him since birth.

Yes I did say coaches words, basically Brown has to vouch for the kid but I'm sure that's not enough for Colangelo.
My point is that Ingram has been there, they have been able to speak to him directly(by they I mean the brass of the organization). Hard to pass on a dude you know everything about and you like.

[BullyKing]

They essential don't know Simmons.. Only thru tape and coaches words.

Personally I think Simmons will fall to the Lakers.

Or, you know, the fact that Brett Brown has basically known him since birth.

Yes I did say coaches words, basically Brown has to vouch for the kid but I'm sure that's not enough for Colangelo.
My point is that Ingram has been there, they have been able to speak to him directly(by they I mean the brass of the organization). Hard to pass on a dude you know everything about and you like.

Do you understand how insane this is? So they know everything about Ingram because Brown had dinner with him and he worked out in their gym? But Colangelo will put more weight into that than Brown knowing Simmons his entire life? Clearly you want Simmons to fall to the Lakers but making yourself out to seem like a fool doesn't change the probability of that.

[Kilroy]

I learned Lakers Haters and Sixers fans get super defensive if you imply the Lakers may get Simmons.

[jay51024]

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[myersia]

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I really believe this will be the NBA star of the draft that everyone missed on. I know it's crazy. But he is something special. I believe it.

[The Skyhook]

Do I think Ben Simmons will be the next Lebron James? No, but there are enough similarities in their game that make you wonder how good an offense built around him would look especially after seeing Lebron in these past two games.

[dockingsched]

Not that it's likely to happen, but in the event that it does in curious how some of you would react on here.... If the front office ends up going with someone other than Simmons/Ingram, after the initial shock, do you think you'd lean more towards trusting the front office or would you lean more towards being a vocal critic of the decision

[Lakerglory1]

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I really believe this will be the NBA star of the draft that everyone missed on. I know it's crazy. But he is something special. I believe it.

I feel the exact same way about Brandon Ingram.

[iamworthy]

Not that it's likely to happen, but in the event that it does in curious how some of you would react on here.... If the front office ends up going with someone other than Simmons/Ingram, after the initial shock, do you think you'd lean more towards trusting the front office or would you lean more towards being a vocal critic of the decision

Last year I was on the Jahlil bandwagon but said if the Lakers picked someone else I would still roll with it because the kid must be special. Fast forward a year, I think the Lakers did pick the right guy in D'angelo and he seems like he has all the tools to be very special. In a weird way I'm kind of hoping they pick someone else because in my mind that would mean that the kid they picked blew their minds. I'll support the pick no matter who it is.

[myersia]

Not that it's likely to happen, but in the event that it does in curious how some of you would react on here.... If the front office ends up going with someone other than Simmons/Ingram, after the initial shock, do you think you'd lean more towards trusting the front office or would you lean more towards being a vocal critic of the decision

I support whom ever they pick. I hope they really look at Buddy though. We are talking about a 4 year college player who is already ready to play and can score efficiently. I just hope they at least consider him. That being said we are in a great place regardless. I am all for anyone they pick outside of Bender.

[iamworthy]

If they want buddy they should trade down.

[Pointgod]

Not that it's likely to happen, but in the event that it does in curious how some of you would react on here.... If the front office ends up going with someone other than Simmons/Ingram, after the initial shock, do you think you'd lean more towards trusting the front office or would you lean more towards being a vocal critic of the decision

Unless they traded down for multiple assets then they're idiotic. It's a two man draft and unless they plan on making a trade for an all star player then missing our on a franchise changing player

[Bruh Man]

Not that it's likely to happen, but in the event that it does in curious how some of you would react on here.... If the front office ends up going with someone other than Simmons/Ingram, after the initial shock, do you think you'd lean more towards trusting the front office or would you lean more towards being a vocal critic of the decision

Unless they traded down for multiple assets then they're idiotic. It's a two man draft and unless they plan on making a trade for an all star player then missing our on a franchise changing player

Agreed, add to that Boston getting Ingram it would make it even worse. I don't see the Lakers passing up on either of those 2 so I'm not worried.

[Kilroy]

Not that it's likely to happen, but in the event that it does in curious how some of you would react on here.... If the front office ends up going with someone other than Simmons/Ingram, after the initial shock, do you think you'd lean more towards trusting the front office or would you lean more towards being a vocal critic of the decision

Unless they traded down for multiple assets then they're idiotic. It's a two man draft and unless they plan on making a trade for an all star player then missing our on a franchise changing player

Does everyone think trading down from 2 to say 5-6, where Hield is likely to fall, is as easy as picking up the phone?

There's this cognitive disconnect among fans that deals are just sitting out there ready to be made for the Lakers, and all Mitch and Jim have to do is say yes...
Obviously, there are deals out there for us, but most smart fans would lose their **** if we actually accepted the crap being offered...

Sure we could trade the 2 for someone at the end of the lottery but trading down 2 or 3 spots is much more difficult, don't you think?

[cashflo]

Or, you know, the fact that Brett Brown has basically known him since birth.

Yes I did say coaches words, basically Brown has to vouch for the kid but I'm sure that's not enough for Colangelo.
My point is that Ingram has been there, they have been able to speak to him directly(by they I mean the brass of the organization). Hard to pass on a dude you know everything about and you like.

Do you understand how insane this is? So they know everything about Ingram because Brown had dinner with him and he worked out in their gym? But Colangelo will put more weight into that than Brown knowing Simmons his entire life? Clearly you want Simmons to fall to the Lakers but making yourself out to seem like a fool doesn't change the probability of that.

Bud i did say the "brass" of the sixers which includes Colangelo not just Brown.
Coaches come and go so fast and I do not think Brown is calling the shots the way you make it seem.

[myersia]

Not that it's likely to happen, but in the event that it does in curious how some of you would react on here.... If the front office ends up going with someone other than Simmons/Ingram, after the initial shock, do you think you'd lean more towards trusting the front office or would you lean more towards being a vocal critic of the decision

Unless they traded down for multiple assets then they're idiotic. It's a two man draft and unless they plan on making a trade for an all star player then missing our on a franchise changing player

Does everyone think trading down from 2 to say 5-6, where Hield is likely to fall, is as easy as picking up the phone?

There's this cognitive disconnect among fans that deals are just sitting out there ready to be made for the Lakers, and all Mitch and Jim have to do is say yes...
Obviously, there are deals out there for us, but most smart fans would lose their **** if we actually accepted the crap being offered...

Sure we could trade the 2 for someone at the end of the lottery but trading down 2 or 3 spots is much more difficult, don't you think?

Just for fun we should debate who we think we could actually get trading down as far as an established player or two and who would you actually want. I don't think its easy but considering we have the 2nd pick I am sure it's a lot easier trading down then up obviously. If we can get a few established players that fits Luke's style of play and a legit rookie then I am all for it. Again I just want us to get better. If that means drafting Ingram or Simmons then I am cool with that.

[BullyKing]

Yes I did say coaches words, basically Brown has to vouch for the kid but I'm sure that's not enough for Colangelo.
My point is that Ingram has been there, they have been able to speak to him directly(by they I mean the brass of the organization). Hard to pass on a dude you know everything about and you like.

Do you understand how insane this is? So they know everything about Ingram because Brown had dinner with him and he worked out in their gym? But Colangelo will put more weight into that than Brown knowing Simmons his entire life? Clearly you want Simmons to fall to the Lakers but making yourself out to seem like a fool doesn't change the probability of that.

Bud i did say the "brass" of the sixers which includes Colangelo not just Brown.
Coaches come and go so fast and I do not think Brown is calling the shots the way you make it seem.

Well "bud", the Sixers "brass" had dinner with Simmons last night so you're hypothesis is now not only stupid but it's also wrong.

[cashflo]

Do you understand how insane this is? So they know everything about Ingram because Brown had dinner with him and he worked out in their gym? But Colangelo will put more weight into that than Brown knowing Simmons his entire life? Clearly you want Simmons to fall to the Lakers but making yourself out to seem like a fool doesn't change the probability of that.

Bud i did say the "brass" of the sixers which includes Colangelo not just Brown.
Coaches come and go so fast and I do not think Brown is calling the shots the way you make it seem.

Well "bud", the Sixers "brass" had dinner with Simmons last night so you're hypothesis is now not only stupid but it's also wrong.

So dinner to say don't pick me... Just my thoughts may be stupid but I guess I'm hopeful that we land Simmons... We'll see!

[Pointgod]

Not that it's likely to happen, but in the event that it does in curious how some of you would react on here.... If the front office ends up going with someone other than Simmons/Ingram, after the initial shock, do you think you'd lean more towards trusting the front office or would you lean more towards being a vocal critic of the decision

Unless they traded down for multiple assets then they're idiotic. It's a two man draft and unless they plan on making a trade for an all star player then missing our on a franchise changing player

Does everyone think trading down from 2 to say 5-6, where Hield is likely to fall, is as easy as picking up the phone?

There's this cognitive disconnect among fans that deals are just sitting out there ready to be made for the Lakers, and all Mitch and Jim have to do is say yes...
Obviously, there are deals out there for us, but most smart fans would lose their **** if we actually accepted the crap being offered...

Sure we could trade the 2 for someone at the end of the lottery but trading down 2 or 3 spots is much more difficult, don't you think?

When there are only two potential franchise players on the whole draft then yes. You don't think that there were lottery teams that would trade a lot to get a shot at Durant for example? So if the Lakers are looking at someone other than Ingram then it is easy as picking up the phone and fielding offers considering there are teams below us with multiple picks in this draft (Phoenix, Boston, Denver for example). It makes a lot more sense than just using the number 2 pick on a guy who would normally go 4-6.

[trevm37]

Unless they traded down for multiple assets then they're idiotic. It's a two man draft and unless they plan on making a trade for an all star player then missing our on a franchise changing player

Does everyone think trading down from 2 to say 5-6, where Hield is likely to fall, is as easy as picking up the phone?

There's this cognitive disconnect among fans that deals are just sitting out there ready to be made for the Lakers, and all Mitch and Jim have to do is say yes...
Obviously, there are deals out there for us, but most smart fans would lose their **** if we actually accepted the crap being offered...

Sure we could trade the 2 for someone at the end of the lottery but trading down 2 or 3 spots is much more difficult, don't you think?

When there are only two potential franchise players on the whole draft then yes. You don't think that there were lottery teams that would trade a lot to get a shot at Durant for example? So if the Lakers are looking at someone other than Ingram then it is easy as picking up the phone and fielding offers considering there are teams below us with multiple picks in this draft (Phoenix, Boston, Denver for example). It makes a lot more sense than just using the number 2 pick on a guy who would normally go 4-6.

Its not a 2 player draft. 2 player drafts do not exist. No one knows which one of these prospects will pan out in a few years, its all speculation. You cant trade down to get a player that could potentially be drafted #3 overall, you just have to pick him at the #2 spot.