[2016 NBA DRAFT NIGHT THREAD] - Thursday, 6/23/16 7:00 PM EST

[AllanH20]

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**** I want Dunn, the kid is going to be ridiculous. I would honestly take him #1. If the Sixers get him..

WTF di they plan to do with Ish Smith then?

BTW you know how much I Dunn from our BAT. Dude is gonna be speeeeecial!

--Mags

We'll sign him in 8 years

[TheDavinciCHODE]

Hopefully..

top 2 or GTFO

That was tongue in cheek.

32 year old Melo can't net us a top 5 pick, let alone top 2.

We should trade him for picks though.

But we won't.

Because...Knicks.

IDK, is anyone in this draft really going to be better than Melo in 4 years? Depends on the trajectory of the team. Boston should trade the #3 pick for Melo if offered, though I wouldn't really want it to be honest. I don't think there's a dead-on pick that we could take.

Boston is on the cusp of having a really good and deep team. Adding the #3 pick would give them yet another young, non-go-to player to develop. They ain't got the time for that. If they had a choice between Adding Carmelo Anthony to the roster for 3 years at a below-market-value deal or drafting a guy that's unproven at #3, then they should take the former.

IDK about trading #1 for Melo, but trading #3 for Melo in this draft makes sense for where Boston is at.

I'd like to add that I think trading Melo for high draft picks is a good idea for us because our team is at a different point in our trajectory. Boston already has a deep roster with an all-star player and some really good role players. They've got a great defense, and good bench. They are right on the cusp. We are nowhere near that cusp, and have young stud to build around. They don't have that luxury.

Our ceiling is somewhere in the distant future with KP as the #1 option. Their time is right now. Going young, acquiring high draft picks, and building our asset pool to maybe make some big trades down the line and build a contender that way will end up being more fruitful most of the time for our team rather than maxing out on free agents like Rondo and Kent Bazemore.

IF, and that's a big if, Phil can swing a deal for a difference maker(who do we have to trade?) or if we can get a big name FA like Durant or Westbrook(why on Earth would they ever sign here?), then it's a different story. But there's nobody on the market that puts us into contention. Melo, on the other hand, would probably do that for Boston....especially given the fact that they have enough cap to sign another star... imagine that team adding Melo AND Dwight this offseason?

Thomas, bradley, smart, crowder, zeller, Melo, Dwight is a great two-way core. They'd be a huge threat to anyone.

[Marty McFly]

philly wants dunn too? my god. our poor backcourt.

[NBA Fan 1234]

For those interested, notanoob has put together some damn good charts on the draft forum on realgm.

http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1454971

http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1454195(C)

http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1454313 (SF)

Highly recommend checking those out.

[DrCoach]

WTF no...

Not a Houston fan?

Huge fan.. and i dont see any of that potential in Crabbe who is a solid player tho

He are a few numbers

Height and Weight, the same for both

Primarily shooters and dont contribute in other stats

Houstons 1st Knick season PER 11.6
Crabbe 12.3 this season

Houston TS% 0.53 (0.57) Carreer high
Crabbe TS% 0.58 this pass season

Houston 1st Knick season 38.5 % 3pt
Crabbe 39.8\% this season


Obviously houston got better but his Career high PER was only 17.6 and had a Career PER 14.9

I dont think those numbers are unattainable long term and Crabbe has already shown glimpses of that potential, he also has a Playoff PER of 13.1

[DrCoach]

For those interested, notanoob has put together some damn good charts on the draft forum on realgm.

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1454971 (SG)

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1454195 (C)

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1454313 (SF)

Highly recommend checking those out.

Awesome, I think Caris Lavert is a nice sneaky late pick

[IllmaticHandler]

For those interested, notanoob has put together some damn good charts on the draft forum on realgm.

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1454971 (SG)

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1454195 (C)

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1454313 (SF)

Highly recommend checking those out.

I been drooling all year for Levert, now I want him even more.

[NBA Fan 1234]

For those interested, notanoob has put together some damn good charts on the draft forum on realgm.

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1454971 (SG)

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1454195 (C)

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1454313 (SF)

Highly recommend checking those out.

Awesome, I think Caris Lavert is a nice sneaky late pick

For those interested, notanoob has put together some damn good charts on the draft forum on realgm.

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1454971 (SG)

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1454195 (C)

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1454313 (SF)

Highly recommend checking those out.

I been drooling all year for Levert, now I want him even more.

I love his game, but he can't stay healthy.

[JXL]

For those interested, notanoob has put together some damn good charts on the draft forum on realgm.

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1454971 (SG)

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1454195 (C)

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1454313 (SF)

Highly recommend checking those out.

Awesome, I think Caris Lavert is a nice sneaky late pick

For those interested, notanoob has put together some damn good charts on the draft forum on realgm.

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1454971 (SG)

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1454195 (C)

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1454313 (SF)

Highly recommend checking those out.

I been drooling all year for Levert, now I want him even more.

I love his game, but he can't stay healthy.

Neither did Kyrie Irving in Duke, but look at where he is now. Let other teams keep looking down on him. If we can get a late 1st/early 2nd round pick, we have to pick him.

[NBA Fan 1234]

Awesome, I think Caris Lavert is a nice sneaky late pick

I been drooling all year for Levert, now I want him even more.

I love his game, but he can't stay healthy.

Neither did Kyrie Irving in Duke, but look at where he is now. Let other teams keep looking down on him. If we can get a late 1st/early 2nd round pick, we have to pick him.

Kyrie had a toe injury and, IIRC, could have returned but chose not to because he had the #1 pick locked up. LeVert played in 33 games the final two years and had 3 surgeries on the same foot (one came from a Jones fracture). They are not the same at all.

[magnumt]

If the Sixers give the C's the rights to Ben Simmons, it's time to slap the f#$k out of that front office.

I think it is more likely a trade is being discussed around Okafor than the #1 pick.

I think Philly wants Ingram and Dunn

I think it might be Simmons & Hield. Gives them better balance and floor spacing.

PG: Smith
SG: Hield
SF: Simmons
PF: Noels
C: Emblid

--Mags

[NBA Fan 1234]

I think it is more likely a trade is being discussed around Okafor than the #1 pick.

I think Philly wants Ingram and Dunn

I think it might be Simmons & Hield. Gives them better balance and floor spacing.

PG: Smith
SG: Hield
SF: Simmons
PF: Noels
C: Emblid

--Mags

That team still has absolute **** spacing I also think Simmons will be best served as a PF going forward.

[magnumt]

For those interested, notanoob has put together some damn good charts on the draft forum on realgm.

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1454971 (SG)

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1454195 (C)

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1454313 (SF)

Highly recommend checking those out.

You need to enclose them in the [url] tags, otherwise they won't display properly (Current RGM bug).

--Mags

[Bklyn&company]

Bembry = John Salmons lite

Mccaw = terrance ross lite

Bembry and McCaw have WAY better playmaking skills. Also, Bembry doesn't jab step 10x before making a move...every single time




Who's everyone's bust predictions?

Hahah John Salmons that's a good one. I've watched close to 80 percent of Bembrya college games there's no way he's John Salmons. To me the best comparison is Evan Turner. Versatile big guard who isn't necessarily a shooter but is crafty in the mid range and near the basket. I do think Bembry can develop a jumper though because his form isn't as awkward as ETs.

McCaw is more raw than Bembry but he might have a little bit more potential. Might take him a little longer to adapt to the NBA game as sometimes it seems the college game moved too fast for him.

Yeah your right about Bembry and McCaw skill set... definitely better play makers and defenders than Salmons and Ross...

Bembry, I believe will be a cross between Andre Iguodala (GSW) and Turner... he actually measures out to the same exact size as A.I when he came out of Arizona.

McCaw, only 20, can really shoot the ball with range and his long wingspan helps him create alot of turnovers on D... I believe he is better than Malik Beasley.
Just needs NBA strength and conditioning..

For balance in our lineup, they currently play both sides of the ball... got to love that.

Would love either or (especially Bembry) plus a speedy PG to push J.Grant maybe Cat Barber/ or another SF....

But getting both Bembry and McCaw would be awesome!

[HEZI]

I think it is more likely a trade is being discussed around Okafor than the #1 pick.

I think Philly wants Ingram and Dunn

I think it might be Simmons & Hield. Gives them better balance and floor spacing.

PG: Smith
SG: Hield
SF: Simmons
PF: Noels
C: Emblid

--Mags

That is actually a bad team as far as floor spacing. Only one player can actually knock down perimeter jumpers, Hield. Smith is a guard that likes to get to the basket, Simmons can't shoot and is a slasher, Noel has limited range to about 15 feet, Embiid is a post player who is a question mark to even play again next year. If you pack the paint on that team, they will clank away.

Also, no way should Hield be a top 3 pick. I have Murray, Brown and Dunn above him on the draft board. But we are talking about Philly here so who knows what they are thinking.

[NBA Fan 1234]

For those interested, notanoob has put together some damn good charts on the draft forum on realgm.

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1454971 (SG)

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1454195 (C)

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1454313 (SF)

Highly recommend checking those out.

You need to enclose them in the [url] tags, otherwise they won't display properly (Current RGM bug).

--Mags

DON'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO.




I'll fix it now.

[magnumt]

I think Philly wants Ingram and Dunn

I think it might be Simmons & Hield. Gives them better balance and floor spacing.

PG: Smith
SG: Hield
SF: Simmons
PF: Noels
C: Emblid

--Mags

That team still has absolute **** spacing I also think Simmons will be best served as a PF going forward.

BETTER spacing than what they have now (but that's not saying much about the 76'ers ).

Anyway, Hield gives them the shooter they need, and Simmons gives them the wing passing they need. I'd play Simmons at PF too, but Noels currently occupies that spot. Spots 1-3 having passing, and scoring. Spots 4 & 5 are the Defensive anchors.

Ingram might be the better choice for the 76'ers there, but I doubt they pass up Simmons after 3 straight Lotto Drafts of passing up the guy who was valued higher (Lakers did the same thing too).

It's not ideal by any means, but it's a step in the right direction for the 76'ers (aka the PF/C version of David Kahn's T'Wolves ).

--Mags

[knickstape21]

It really is incredible how quiet and secretive we have been through this process. I bet we have assistant coaches in place already also, we just don't know who yet. As a Knicks fan I hate it, but as an NBA fan I love it.

[Shadylove]

top 2 or GTFO

That was tongue in cheek.

32 year old Melo can't net us a top 5 pick, let alone top 2.

We should trade him for picks though.

But we won't.

Because...Knicks.

IDK, is anyone in this draft really going to be better than Melo in 4 years? Depends on the trajectory of the team. Boston should trade the #3 pick for Melo if offered, though I wouldn't really want it to be honest. I don't think there's a dead-on pick that we could take.

Boston is on the cusp of having a really good and deep team. Adding the #3 pick would give them yet another young, non-go-to player to develop. They ain't got the time for that. If they had a choice between Adding Carmelo Anthony to the roster for 3 years at a below-market-value deal or drafting a guy that's unproven at #3, then they should take the former.

IDK about trading #1 for Melo, but trading #3 for Melo in this draft makes sense for where Boston is at.

I'd like to add that I think trading Melo for high draft picks is a good idea for us because our team is at a different point in our trajectory. Boston already has a deep roster with an all-star player and some really good role players. They've got a great defense, and good bench. They are right on the cusp. We are nowhere near that cusp, and have young stud to build around. They don't have that luxury.

Our ceiling is somewhere in the distant future with KP as the #1 option. Their time is right now. Going young, acquiring high draft picks, and building our asset pool to maybe make some big trades down the line and build a contender that way will end up being more fruitful most of the time for our team rather than maxing out on free agents like Rondo and Kent Bazemore.

IF, and that's a big if, Phil can swing a deal for a difference maker(who do we have to trade?) or if we can get a big name FA like Durant or Westbrook(why on Earth would they ever sign here?), then it's a different story. But there's nobody on the market that puts us into contention. Melo, on the other hand, would probably do that for Boston....especially given the fact that they have enough cap to sign another star... imagine that team adding Melo AND Dwight this offseason?

Thomas, bradley, smart, crowder, zeller, Melo, Dwight is a great two-way core. They'd be a huge threat to anyone.

This is turning to another trade Melo thread. How many time does Melo and even Phil have to tell you that we have the best front court? Are you that thick? trade Melo in a weak draft? come on! do you think even Lebron can win with the worst backcourt and a coach who has never coached a day in his life? you are smart than that. Dolan has invested 200m guaranteed contract in Melo. He still led the team in points, rebs and assists. He has NTC and Lin is not coming back and this is Melos team. If you can not root for the knicks go the nets board and wait for lin over there

[mpharris36]

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