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Post#1281 » by Bernman » Sat Jun 25, 2016 3:50 am

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See Fat John reaching in and blocking the punch? It's gross. Could have been a telling shot, then he gets timid allowing Meathead off the hook, a couple minutes later he's ko'ed himself. Has a right to file a grievance with the commission. Overturn, suspension for John, and possibly some financial compensation. I mean he's out however much show money and lost a lot of brain cells he'll never get back. Wasn't aware beforehand he'd be fighting 2 on 1 and the guy with the shirt would be one of the opponents.
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Post#1282 » by ShowtimeFan » Sat Jun 25, 2016 5:54 am

I like Chandler and I am very happy he won and loved his one-punch finish...

Hey Patricky, the Village People called and they want their mustache back...!
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Post#1283 » by Bernman » Sat Jun 25, 2016 6:34 am

ShowtimeFan wrote:I like Chandler and I am very happy he won and loved his one-punch finish...

Hey Patricky, the Village People called and they want their mustache back...!


Patricio had one too and was cageside admonishing Chandler as he was celebrating the victory sitting on the cage lip. He looked exactly like his brother. For a second I thought it was Patricky's ghost.
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Post#1284 » by Bernman » Sat Jun 25, 2016 4:34 pm

I really don't want this issue about Mitrione's fight displayed in the gif above to die easily because it happened fast or it's just Bellator. That really is an egregious offense by Fat John.
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Post#1285 » by Nemesis21 » Sat Jun 25, 2016 5:38 pm

ShowtimeFan wrote:I like Chandler and I am very happy he won and loved his one-punch finish...

Hey Patricky, the Village People called and they want their mustache back...!



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Post#1286 » by Jasen777 » Sun Jun 26, 2016 2:14 am

Bernman wrote:I really don't want this issue about Mitrione's fight displayed in the gif above to die easily because it happened fast or it's just Bellator. That really is an egregious offense by Fat John.


That is horrible reffing, Seumanutafa could have easily thought McCarthy was trying to stop the fight or institute a breakage (for some reason).

The whole Mitrione situation is weird with him fighting 3 weeks after he might have been flash KO'd and him doing an announcing job a couple hours after his fight - which he could have very easily not been in condition to do.
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Post#1287 » by REDDzone » Sun Jun 26, 2016 2:30 am

BJM simply cannot resist any and every opportunity to interject himself into any and every fight he refs. The guys traditionally thought of as the best refs are among the worst.
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Post#1288 » by Bernman » Sun Jun 26, 2016 3:53 am

Jasen777 wrote:The whole Mitrione situation is weird with him fighting 3 weeks after he might have been flash KO'd and him doing an announcing job a couple hours after his fight - which he could have very easily not been in condition to do.


I'm with RZ on the ulterior motive. I think he's too self righteous and thinks he's too big of a star to be a company man for the #2 MMA organization. He'll keep working major events without Bellator, sadly. Commissions don't hold refs very accountable. They just keep picking from the same finite pool.

If there is a bias here toward Matt, it's because BJM has interacted with him many times before, with the MMA community being so small and tight-knit in relative terms. We talk about that as one of the negatives of former fighters reffing, but it must happen frequently with refs and fighters who've been on the big stage for many years. Whereas he may have never met Carl Samoan before, or at least remembered it.

The issue of allowing Mitrione to fight a few weeks later is a separate one, and yes, very shady, and troubling as well. Concussion tests are so varied and classifications so subjective that in the non extreme cases a party can get whatever result they want if they're motivated. But it's pretty common sense that it was a concussion, and regardless, he shouldn't be fighting a few weeks later. The show must go on...
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Post#1289 » by Headliner » Sun Jun 26, 2016 5:53 pm

Wow, that's pretty shady Reffing with that block.
He switches from his power arm (right) where he can still the side of the head, to his left hand and can't angle it so he's throwing softer shots or hammers. Huge difference maker.

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Post#1290 » by REDDzone » Sun Jun 26, 2016 7:28 pm

I know its easier said than done and I'm not living in the moment, but if I'm a fighter in a few of these examples of fights where the ref makes contact in the middle of a barrage, I'd think the bets strategy would be to just stop fighting, no? Is a ref really going to argue that he wasn't trying to stop the fight after grabbing a fighter?

What was the fight BJM started running toward the action and he was too fat to stop himself so he barreled into the fighters and the fight ended and some thought it was too soon? BJM of course played it off like he meant to do that the whole time.
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Post#1291 » by Jasen777 » Sun Jun 26, 2016 7:38 pm

REDDzone wrote:What was the fight BJM started running toward the action and he was too fat to stop himself so he barreled into the fighters and the fight ended and some thought it was too soon? BJM of course played it off like he meant to do that the whole time.


I was thinking of that one, but don't recall it either.
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Post#1292 » by Bernman » Sun Jun 26, 2016 10:09 pm

REDDzone wrote:I know its easier said than done and I'm not living in the moment, but if I'm a fighter in a few of these examples of fights where the ref makes contact in the middle of a barrage, I'd think the bets strategy would be to just stop fighting, no? Is a ref really going to argue that he wasn't trying to stop the fight after grabbing a fighter?

What was the fight BJM started running toward the action and he was too fat to stop himself so he barreled into the fighters and the fight ended and some thought it was too soon? BJM of course played it off like he meant to do that the whole time.


lol

Someone has to find a gif of that. I don't recall or didn't see it.
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Post#1293 » by Jasen777 » Mon Jun 27, 2016 12:42 am

REDDzone wrote:What was the fight BJM started running toward the action and he was too fat to stop himself so he barreled into the fighters and the fight ended and some thought it was too soon? BJM of course played it off like he meant to do that the whole time.


I think it was Bendo vs. RDA we were thinking of.

Bernman did a gif. http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?p=40998489#p40998489
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Post#1294 » by cowboyronnie » Mon Jun 27, 2016 1:59 am

That Schilling KO.

Back-to-back crumpling, stiff-body-hitting-the-canvas KOs by the same guy. Should stop fighting. He's been KOd flat a bunch of times now (inc a bunch where his head struck the canvas) & fought that 3xfights in a night tourney.
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Post#1295 » by cowboyronnie » Mon Jun 27, 2016 2:03 am

The Mitrione result was super suspect. John was clearly favoring him - either unconsciously expecting him to win and ensuring it didn't not manifest or outright wanting him to win cos personal favoritism (Mitrione is a charming dude, veteran of the scene, has a sick kid, first fight in a new org).

I agree with all the assessments of John being a self-absorbed prick. Somehow he feels it's about him when he steps into the cage. All his clever one liners ("Am I still ugly" when fighters have been eye-poked) and the general micro-management suggest this too.
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Post#1296 » by Bernman » Mon Jun 27, 2016 2:27 am

Jasen777 wrote:I think it was Bendo vs. RDA we were thinking of.

Bernman did a gif. http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?p=40998489#p40998489


So I guess I REALLY didn't recall it. The old cracker barrel ain't what it used to be.

That jogged my memory, though. It's not as funny as RZ made it sound. I was picturing like a dramatic pratfall and then him getting up and waving his arms afterward.

Probably didn't change that outcome, at least. But may well have for the James Krause and Samoan Carl.
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Post#1297 » by Jasen777 » Sat Jul 16, 2016 5:40 pm

Bellator tonight. Lima/Daley, Page/Santos, and totally cleared medicals Mitrione is back against Oli Thompson.
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Post#1298 » by Bernman » Sat Jul 16, 2016 5:51 pm

It could have been a pretty sweet event, but they didn't stack it with all their quality British guys, and a lot of the matches fell apart. Still, Lima/Daley and Page/Cyborg have redeeming value. Hopefully Lima crushes Daley (and I think he will with distance control plus devastating leg kicks), plus Page styles on Cyborg in an entertaining performance. I saw the weigh-in and his dancing right when he was hip to hip with Cyborg was pretty funny. It's funny, until you get ko'ed, and then they're laughing at you. But right now he's the cock with the walk. Bellator has to start moving him up the ranks already. It's gotten ridiculous. Let's see him vs. Kos or even the winner of Lima/Daley next.
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Post#1299 » by Susan » Sun Jul 17, 2016 12:51 am

Don't want to spoil it for anybody but...anybody see MVP yet?
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Post#1300 » by Bernman » Sun Jul 17, 2016 3:49 am

Susan wrote:Don't want to spoil it for anybody but...anybody see MVP yet?


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MVP!

You can't see those attacks coming. He recognizes or creates too quickly. First he displayed it with the lead on the switch kick to the liver. He thought he was on the safe side, then he wasn't. Second, on the counter, with that sudden recognition, and then knee to the head right when Cyborg dove. It's high-level stuff.

Hopefully they move him along already. He signed with Bellator 4 years already, the previous 3 fights fought nobodies, and this one was against an over the hill 21-17 Cyborg. I'm a believer. With their practice, they haven't been. Were handling him with kid gloves. Time to take them off and move him into contendership to potentially make him an MMA star. They aren't getting enough of a return from this method.

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