Mock Off-Season: Day 1

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Re: Mock Off-Season: Day 1 

Post#81 » by BullyKing » Wed Jun 29, 2016 12:45 pm

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BullyKing wrote:Philly is also offering the following trades:

Philly offers Richaun Holmes and Philly’s 2018 2nd to BUCKS Vaughn


Bucks counter with Vaughn straight up for Luwawu.


Thanks for the counter but it doesn't work for us as we offered the trade to improve our roster balance.
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Re: Mock Off-Season: Day 1 

Post#82 » by Mamba4Goat » Wed Jun 29, 2016 12:49 pm

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Mamba4Goat wrote:**Edited for simplicity**

Knicks day one:
1.)We renounce every cap hold opening up an additional $23,491,245 in cap space. (not including the QO's of Galloway and Early)
2.)So we have Phil and Melo (and Rose if needed) get on the phone and set up meetings for KD, D12, Noah, and Horford. (Signing priority in that order.) We sell them on two stars and a young player with ridiculous potential. As well as the ability to create an amazing legacy for themselves in one of the biggest markets in the league and to be viewed as a hero in it. KD and D12 have both been noted to be intrigued so Phil's magic may work. We offer Howard and Durant max contracts starting at $26.6 mil annually for KD and $31 mil annually for D12. 4 years with a PO for the last one.
3.)We offer a 2 year $2.5 mil annually contract (we should have roughly 5 mil open after either signing) to each of Josh Smith and Ty Lawson (It's the Knicks side of the transactions) with a player option the second year. We sell each of them on a chance of getting back into the limelight on one of the biggest stages in the NBA but we attempt to persuade them to wait until we see what KD and D12 do.
4.)Lastly, the stars and Lawson and Smith should take up most of the cap, so we approach Et'waun Moore and should he decline, DJ Augustin with the BAE selling them on a possible starting role should Rose get injured and Lawson fail but don't make the offer completely official yet.
5.)We start talks with Thomas Robinson, Cole Aldrich, Wesley Johnson, Lance Thomas, Alan Anderson, and Xavier Henry for vet min deals for 3 years (I.e. a Robert Covington deal) also selling them on Phil Jackson, the possibility to boost their value and name, and a guaranteed pay check for 3 years.



You don't have the cap space for Durant and Dwight, you need to prioritize which one you pursue in case one makes their decision before the other. If it's Dwight, then you don't have the remaining cap space for Lawson and Smith's offer.

You also don't have a BAE, did you mean the cap MLE? Or you holding off on bringing Guillermo Hernangomez over?


Sorry, I'll edit the post in a roughly an hour.
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Re: Mock Off-Season: Day 1 

Post#83 » by Prokorov » Wed Jun 29, 2016 12:52 pm

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6. Al Horford is expected to make his decision tonight with the only offer coming from Houston so far.



The Brooklyn Nets have rescinded their offersheet to Bradley Beals the wizards have made it clear they will match the offer and the nets see no avenues for a sign and trade.

The Nets would like to offer Al Horford a 4 Year Maximum Contract. (dudley has passed on our offer and going to the highest bigger, that 6 million with the beal max we pulled along with the cap we already had is more then enough)

Pitch: Horford would get to move back to PF, and would reunite with Kenny Atkinson, a guy he praised and tweeted out to once he got the Nets Job. Nets have pointed that they are "close" on Rajon Rondo and are have also contacted the agent of Horfords teammate Kent Bazemore and would be looking to bring him into the fold as well to form a legit team in brooklyn.


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4/52 to rondo
2/12 to sergio rodriuguez
MAX to horford
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Re: Mock Off-Season: Day 1 

Post#84 » by Warriorfan » Wed Jun 29, 2016 12:54 pm

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bondom34 wrote:For OKC:

Up for trade are McGary, Huestis, Kanter. (Edit, also Ilyasova)

I'm picking up Morrow's option and letting Waiters test RFA.

I'd offer Philly a sign and trade of Waiters for Hollis Thompson at whatever price they'd get Dion for.

I'd offer Phoenix Chandler and Tucker for Kanter.

Renouncing Foye's rights should take the salary cap space to approximately 8 mil over the cap.

I'd also offer the MLE to Darrell Arthur or Trevor Booker if either are available.

Finally I'd inquire with Charlotte if they'd have interest in a sign and trade for Marv.


At this point I have to keep Ersan as it won't clear cap space unless Kanter is gone.

Edit:

Oh and duh, I offer KD a max contract, his choice of the full 5 year or 1 + 1.

Edit: Adding my pitch, though don't know if its needed.

Kevin, we've been home for you for 9 years and greatly appreciate all you've given the city and state of Oklahoma. We feel like we've built a great young team around you and with your best friend in Russ at your side, this team is on the brink of a great future. We just brought in a fantastic young SG who you've been friends with for years and have a great group of hard workers in the locker room who were one of, if not the youngest ever conference finalists. Kevin, the decision is yours, but know OKC will always appreciate all you've given and we'd really hope to have you stay here for life.


Also wanted to add Kanter is available for cap space if anyone wants, and Singler is available too.

I'm offering up an offer to Chicago for Taj Gibson of Huestis/McGary/Ersan if they're going rebuild.

I'd also offer the MLE for Luol Deng.

Finally, I try to extend RFA offers to Adams at 4/68 and Roberson at 4/32.[/quote]


See Kevin OKC is taking you for granted and already forgot about you. :D
OKC may want to rethink their offer to Mr. Adams
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Re: Mock Off-Season: Day 1 

Post#85 » by BullyKing » Wed Jun 29, 2016 12:54 pm

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I'd offer Philly a sign and trade of Waiters for Hollis Thompson at whatever price they'd get Dion for.



Philly is sitting out the Waiters market right now because it fears that Waiters' agent wants to use Philly to drive up his price elsewhere.

We might be willing to trade Thompson for the 2017 Memphis 2nd depending on our ability to add players in free agency.
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Re: Mock Off-Season: Day 1 

Post#86 » by sportscrazy » Wed Jun 29, 2016 1:03 pm

bdpecore wrote:
sportscrazy wrote:.

The Bucks are curious if Marvin Williams and/or Courtney Williams want to provide them with a counter offer?


Not at the moment, they're going to let free agency play out for a day and see what value the market sets for similar players.
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Re: Mock Off-Season: Day 1 

Post#87 » by bondom34 » Wed Jun 29, 2016 1:04 pm

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See Kevin OKC is taking you for granted and already forgot about you. :D
OKC may want to rethink their offer to Mr. Adams

No need to get smart.

And Adams isn't a free agent til next year, so nobody else can offer. I'm trying to extend early. He's also restricted in a year so again, you'd have no chance.
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Re: Mock Off-Season: Day 1 

Post#88 » by bondom34 » Wed Jun 29, 2016 1:04 pm

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bondom34 wrote:
I'd offer Philly a sign and trade of Waiters for Hollis Thompson at whatever price they'd get Dion for.



Philly is sitting out the Waiters market right now because it fears that Waiters' agent wants to use Philly to drive up his price elsewhere.

We might be willing to trade Thompson for the 2017 Memphis 2nd depending on our ability to add players in free agency.

OK, I'll wait on Thompson for now, if there's interest later in Dion would you be willing to work in a 3 team trade with Boston here?

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bondom34 wrote:
165bows wrote:Any over the cap teams interested in Tyler Zeller or Jared Sullinger they are on the market.
Edit - we all know Doc Rivers wants to bring back Jared Sullinger. He can't help it with two point shooting big men.

What if anything could OKC give for Sully? Not much to offer but curious.

Don't need much but the outgoing salary on the other side would have to go somewhere else.

If someone else wants Waiters or Foye that could work. Are they staying or going for you? If someone wants to take one of those guys or something else as outgoing salary I would do either of Sullinger or Zeller outgoing for a second rounder.

Otherwise they probably get renounced or just allowed to walk on an offer sheet.

Edit - At any rate, once Zeller and Sullinger's cap holds are removed, their salary cap space will be used to make a 2 year, $24M contract offer to Jared Dudley to finally bring him back to Boston. He'd enjoy a similar role in Boston as last year, with ~20-25 minutes per night as a combo forward. The second year would be a team option.


The salary could be negotiated upwards somewhat to exceed other offers if necessary.[/quote]
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Re: Mock Off-Season: Day 1 

Post#89 » by sportscrazy » Wed Jun 29, 2016 1:11 pm

Just a heads up, I'll be at work and won't be home until 7:00 PM ET which at that time, I will do another update for the final four hours of Day 1. I will keep an eye on the thread throughout the day, but won't be able to give a detailed update around the league until around then.
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Re: Mock Off-Season: Day 1 

Post#90 » by 165bows » Wed Jun 29, 2016 1:12 pm

aramada wrote:.

Do the Bulls plan on keeping Tony Snell or is he on the trade block?
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Re: Mock Off-Season: Day 1 

Post#91 » by HartfordWhalers » Wed Jun 29, 2016 1:18 pm

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Re: Mock Off-Season: Day 1 

Post#92 » by aramada » Wed Jun 29, 2016 1:19 pm

165bows wrote:
aramada wrote:.

Do the Bulls plan on keeping Tony Snell or is he on the trade block?


We are open to offers for Tony
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Re: Mock Off-Season: Day 1 

Post#93 » by jazzfan1971 » Wed Jun 29, 2016 1:21 pm

Utah Jazz
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- Renounce cap hold on Trevor Booker Bringing cap to 24,939,249.00

The Jazz would like to propose renegotiating contracts with Derrick Favors and George Hill. Doing so presents the Jazz with a way to use our cap space without entering what I feel will be a toxic free agent market. We take a salary hit this year for some relief down the road. If you are interested in this proposal for Derrick Favors you can read an article about it: http://saltcityhoops.com/renegotiating-derrick-favors-contract-what-makes-sense/

I have used the most lucrative option presented there for Derrick and I'm going to bump his 4th year on top of that to 18 mil. So, he will get an offer of:

22
18
16.7
18
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74.7 million over 4 years. If Favors rides out his current deal and gets a full max offer afterwards his salary will total 83 million over the same time period. However, in this offer Favors is getting the security of a long term deal and he also gets his money quicker, money now is worth more than money later, so the difference in spending power between this offer and his best case scenario otherwise is small and I believe that he would sacrifice a couple million in spending power to gain the security of a long term deal and avoid the circus of free agency.

This works for the Jazz because we save a few million in the long run and when it comes time to extend our other players Derrick will be on a somewhat friendly salary of 17-18 million instead of a potential cap busting 30 million.

This renegotiation will cost the Jazz 11 million in cap space bringing our toal to 13,939,249.00

I believe it also makes sense to lock up George Hill for the same time period, albiet for a much lower figure.

My proposal to Hill.

I anticipate Hill would make something along the lines of

8 - Current salary
10 - Estimated
10 - Estimated
10 - Estimated
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38 mil

So, I'll offer

13.9
8.34
7.72
7.09
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37.05 mil

This gives the Jazz a slight break in salary and keeps Hill around for 4 more years where he will be expected to be the veteran leader of the team and provide a soft landing for Exum his first year and likely be a backup 1/2 for the remainder of his career.

The extention of Hill would cost 5.9 mil in cap bringing the Jazz cap space down to 8 million.

I would then offer Solomon Hill a 3 year 24 million contract with the last year a team option. Using the remainder of the cap space. (note: offer contingent on other 2 being accepted) Why Solomon Hill? - http://www.sltrib.com/sports/4058833-155/utah-jazz-have-interest-in-pacers
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Re: Mock Off-Season: Day 1 

Post#94 » by bwgood77 » Wed Jun 29, 2016 1:23 pm

bondom34 wrote:Edit: NVM, I'm editing my OP.


When you do this, can you quote the first post and note the changes? It's tough to go back and look at what you are referring to. So many offers and stuff flying around in this thread.
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Re: Mock Off-Season: Day 1 

Post#95 » by bwgood77 » Wed Jun 29, 2016 1:26 pm

165bows wrote:
bondom34 wrote:
165bows wrote:Any over the cap teams interested in Tyler Zeller or Jared Sullinger they are on the market.
Edit - we all know Doc Rivers wants to bring back Jared Sullinger. He can't help it with two point shooting big men.

What if anything could OKC give for Sully? Not much to offer but curious.

Don't need much but the outgoing salary on the other side would have to go somewhere else.

If someone else wants Waiters or Foye that could work. Are they staying or going for you? If someone wants to take one of those guys or something else as outgoing salary I would do either of Sullinger or Zeller outgoing for a second rounder.

Otherwise they probably get renounced or just allowed to walk on an offer sheet.

Edit - At any rate, once Zeller and Sullinger's cap holds are removed, their salary cap space will be used to make a 2 year, $24M contract offer to Jared Dudley to finally bring him back to Boston. He'd enjoy a similar role in Boston as last year, with ~20-25 minutes per night as a combo forward. The second year would be a team option.

The salary could be negotiated upwards somewhat to exceed other offers if necessary.


Damn, was considering trumping that Dudley offer. Not sure I want to exceed that one though.
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Re: Mock Off-Season: Day 1 

Post#96 » by bwgood77 » Wed Jun 29, 2016 1:28 pm

sportscrazy wrote:Just a heads up, I'll be at work and won't be home until 7:00 PM ET which at that time, I will do another update for the final four hours of Day 1. I will keep an eye on the thread throughout the day, but won't be able to give a detailed update around the league until around then.


You've got quite a job here. You must have to take serious notes or track it all in a spreadsheet.
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Re: Mock Off-Season: Day 1 

Post#97 » by 165bows » Wed Jun 29, 2016 1:29 pm

aramada wrote:
165bows wrote:
aramada wrote:.

Do the Bulls plan on keeping Tony Snell or is he on the trade block?


We are open to offers for Tony

What type of value do they have for him, and what are the needs there? Not totally sure after their recent moves and the draft.
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Re: Mock Off-Season: Day 1 

Post#98 » by bdpecore » Wed Jun 29, 2016 1:31 pm

BullyKing wrote:
bdpecore wrote:
BullyKing wrote:Philly is also offering the following trades:

Philly offers Richaun Holmes and Philly’s 2018 2nd to BUCKS Vaughn


Bucks counter with Vaughn straight up for Luwawu.


Thanks for the counter but it doesn't work for us as we offered the trade to improve our roster balance.

Understandable. I will let you know if I happen to reconsider based on free agent signings.
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Re: Mock Off-Season: Day 1 

Post#99 » by warren weel im » Wed Jun 29, 2016 1:31 pm

The Lakers are prepared to announce the signing of Evan Turner to the media if all else is completed. Still awaiting that of Whiteside's decision. I have already placed a call to HW himself stating our intent to make him a focal point of our offense. In Portland, he would have to compete with Lillard and McCollum for touches and would have a situation like that in Miami, albeit with younger players.

The Lakers are willing to dole out incentives if we make playoffs anytime soon, although I would have to consult our resident capologist for that.
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Re: Mock Off-Season: Day 1 

Post#100 » by The Beam King » Wed Jun 29, 2016 1:34 pm

Kings would like to target a guard, preferably a PG.

Koufos and McLemore are my main trading chips. Might entertain Gay on a higher end starting PG but not loving the idea of parting with Gay. Willing to listen to offers.

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