Mock Off-Season: Day 1

[jayjaysee]

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bit late..

Cleveland GM is still hung over from all the parties, so he has missed some calls and meetings. But he finally got his coffee and send emails apologizing.

Cleveland offers Lebron whatever contract he will agree to. We expect him to want a 1+1 but we hope he chooses a full max and end all the future questions now that we have won a title together. Our pitch? I don't think we need one with him honestly.

We have a good Lebron-relationship with Smith, so we expect him to agree to come back. If Lebron agrees to a full max, we offer JR a 4/36 mil deal. If Lebron does another 1+1, we offer JR a 2+partially guaranteed(3mil?) for 10 mil a year. We don't want to offend him, as we really like him, so assuming Lebron does a 1+1 we tell JR to check with us before agreeing with another team if he doesn't like the offer we made though I think both are pretty fair? Those numbers might be way off for JR, but he played great for us and we are all about teamBron this offseason. I will feel awkward if JR gets no offers above 5 mil a year but I expect another GM to have watched the playoffs.

Cleveland tells Matty he can test the market but we will be matching anything, really we have a number in mind that we won't go over, but you don't need to know what it is just like GM's wouldn't know what it is - we can PM that number to the agent if that makes it more realistic? We have a very big fair number in mind for him though as his role isn't easily replaced for a team already over the cap. Our initial offer is 4yr/32.

We know Mo isn't turning his option down, and the other FA's don't matter as they can be brought back for vet min deals (RJ, Jones). We are very hopeful RJ comes back for a vet min deal. Will even include a player option on a second season?

We also don't renounce Mozgov's hold. We understand he might be very upset about his decreased role this season, but if no one offers him big money we'd like the ability to bring him back on a cheap deal. A bigger fan of the Cavs might have better insight to this just not being an option though? Possible the two sides have no interest.

We are (probably unrealistically) interested in moving Shumpert and Frye.

We aren't moving Love or Kyrie unless someone decides to play superstar value for them. We understand they may not be superstars, but we just won a championship.

We understand our payroll is huge, but we are hoping it becomes less painful as the cap increases, which is why we are targeting long term deals with our FA's. Our guys ideally locked into what will be considered reasonable contracts in two years.
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To clean it up a bit;

Lebron - his choice of max 1+1 or ideally full loyalty max.

JR - either 4yr/36 or 3yr/30 mil (with 3rd year only 3 mil guaranteed) depending on Lebron's contract. 4years if Lebron stays, 2 guaranteed if Lebron does a 1+1.. Will up the offer if klutch tells us to, but will have to argue over it for at least a month.

Delle - test the market but we are going to match as we need him. Hoping he chooses our 4yr/32mil starter as it's reasonable and locks him in on a contender with a defined role

Love/Kyrie - offer like they are superstars if you are going to offer

TT - offer like he is an all-star, but LeBron has to agree to it.. So probably don't offer honestly.

RJ - vet min 2 years

Mozgov - only renounced if he has our number blocked. If we can't land a better "real" center, we will offer him a lowball 3yr15 mil if he is still available.

Mo - possibly trade filler if we get active, possibly 3rd PG cheerleader. Undetermined but he sadly didn't opt out.

We also have a 9.6 million dollar TPE that we aren't afraid of spending 20 million on. But we don't want Brewer for it.. Sorry.

And again sorry for partying. But we won! So, as has been said, there isn't really much necessary to the offseason. And yes, I didn't check the thread before/at work. My fault.

Waiting to hear back from LBJ, Smith, Delly, and RJ after day one.

Any guard offers for Koufos?

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Cleveland wants to talk Shumpert. We understand Kostas has more value than Shumpert though. So we should expand that.. Bogdan, Ben for our next available first (2020 lottery protected w/ lowering protection) and (later of) LAL/Minn 2019 2nd added to it?

[The Beam King]

Cleveland GM is still hung over from all the parties, so he has missed some calls and meetings. But he finally got his coffee and send emails apologizing.

Cleveland offers Lebron whatever contract he will agree to. We expect him to want a 1+1 but we hope he chooses a full max and end all the future questions now that we have won a title together. Our pitch? I don't think we need one with him honestly.

We have a good Lebron-relationship with Smith, so we expect him to agree to come back. If Lebron agrees to a full max, we offer JR a 4/36 mil deal. If Lebron does another 1+1, we offer JR a 2+partially guaranteed(3mil?) for 10 mil a year. We don't want to offend him, as we really like him, so assuming Lebron does a 1+1 we tell JR to check with us before agreeing with another team if he doesn't like the offer we made though I think both are pretty fair? Those numbers might be way off for JR, but he played great for us and we are all about teamBron this offseason. I will feel awkward if JR gets no offers above 5 mil a year but I expect another GM to have watched the playoffs.

Cleveland tells Matty he can test the market but we will be matching anything, really we have a number in mind that we won't go over, but you don't need to know what it is just like GM's wouldn't know what it is - we can PM that number to the agent if that makes it more realistic? We have a very big fair number in mind for him though as his role isn't easily replaced for a team already over the cap. Our initial offer is 4yr/32.

We know Mo isn't turning his option down, and the other FA's don't matter as they can be brought back for vet min deals (RJ, Jones). We are very hopeful RJ comes back for a vet min deal. Will even include a player option on a second season?

We also don't renounce Mozgov's hold. We understand he might be very upset about his decreased role this season, but if no one offers him big money we'd like the ability to bring him back on a cheap deal. A bigger fan of the Cavs might have better insight to this just not being an option though? Possible the two sides have no interest.

We are (probably unrealistically) interested in moving Shumpert and Frye.

We aren't moving Love or Kyrie unless someone decides to play superstar value for them. We understand they may not be superstars, but we just won a championship.

We understand our payroll is huge, but we are hoping it becomes less painful as the cap increases, which is why we are targeting long term deals with our FA's. Our guys ideally locked into what will be considered reasonable contracts in two years.
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To clean it up a bit;

Lebron his choice of max 1+1 or full max.

JR - either 4yr/36 or 3yr/30 mil (with 3rd year only 3 mil guaranteed) depending on Lebron's contract. Will up the offer if klutch tells us to, but will have to argue over it for at least a month.

Delle - test the market but we are going to match as we need him

Love/Kyrie - offer like they are superstars if you are going to offer

TT - offer like he is an all-star, but LeBron has to agree to it.. So probably don't offer honestly.

RJ - vet min 2 years

Mozgov - only renounced if he has our number blocked. If we can't land a better "real" center, we will lowball him an offer around 3yr15 mil.

Mo - possibly trade filler if we get active, possibly 3rd PG cheerleader. Undetermined but he sadly didn't opt out.

And again sorry for partying. But we won! So, as has been said, there isn't really much necessary to the offseason. And yes, I didn't check the thread before/at work. My fault.

Any guard offers for Koufos?

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Cleveland wants to talk Shumpert. We understand Kostas has more value than Shumpert though. So we should expand that.. Bogdan, Ben for our next available first (2020 lottery protected w/ lowering protection) and (later of) LAL/Minn 2019 2nd added to it?

Little confused as to what the actual offer is? I'll be honest shumpert lost his luster for me these playoffs

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[The Beam King]

Any guard offers for Koufos?

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I'd offer Stuckey and a 2nd.

I might bite if you can sweeten the pot somehow.

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[The Beam King]

Any guard offers for Koufos?

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Brewer perhaps, I need to put on my cap spectacles if you are interested so let me know.

That might be my last ditch resort for koufos if I can't move him. Come back to me towards the end of free agency if I still haven't moved him. Brewer just doesn't thrill me all that much and I'd rather get a PG or PG/SG type using Koufos

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[The Beam King]

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Any interest in MCW for the rights to Cedi Osman? You could use a cheap replacement for Delly since he is likely going to get paid by some team.

I might go for MCW on the cheap

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[jayjaysee]

Cleveland wants to talk Shumpert. We understand Kostas has more value than Shumpert though. So we should expand that.. Bogdan, Ben for our next available first (2020 lottery protected w/ lowering protection) and (later of) LAL/Minn 2019 2nd added to it?

Little confused as to what the actual offer is? I'll be honest shumpert lost his luster for me these playoffs

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Well if you aren't interested in Shump at all, then we don't have a conversation honestly I guess. I'm not sure if I'm supposed to keep character or something here but eh. The offer was; Kostas, Ben, Bogdan for Shumpert, 2020 first, LAL/Minn 2019 2nd.

If Shumpert is viewed as a clear negative, then that offer is a mile away.

[bdpecore]

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Any interest in MCW for the rights to Cedi Osman? You could use a cheap replacement for Delly since he is likely going to get paid by some team.

I might go for MCW on the cheap

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What do you consider "on the cheap"?

[jayjaysee]

Any interest in MCW for the rights to Cedi Osman? You could use a cheap replacement for Delly since he is likely going to get paid by some team.

Cleveland has no plans on losing Delly? He is a major piece to the team.

And if we did, we wouldn't want MCW to be the replacement. I'd sooner look at Devin Harris. Who would actually be a great fit on Cleveland's roster. But I would rather keep Matthew and hope his 10ish million dollar contract is less painful in two years.

[Andre Roberstan]

Inquiry: Are you looking to acquire more cap space to help sign Horford/Bazemore? Perhaps the Jazz could work with you. I expect to have around 8mil in cap space I could sell. Maybe something like Trey Burke for Splitter or Korver/Sefolosha. Jazz would require some compensation beyond the straight up trade if you were interested in working something out.

We're actually doing all right on cap space. Horford has Bird rights, and with my waives I have enough space for his cap hold and Bazemore at the moment. The only way I'd need that cap space is if Horford wants to ink the deal straight away and Baze wants to wait.

I'd be interested in Burke for Splitter regardless. Would the 2017 Nets 2nd do it?

That's interesting. Do you think we could put a pin in it until after day 1? Or is it time sensitive? Also, any Jazz fans out there, do you think this rates as a likely deal for the Jazz or close enough? LoserX?

It's not time-sensitive unless I start to think Bazemore is looking elsewhere and I have to up my offer.

[stylesofpunk]

Cleveland GM is still hung over from all the parties, so he has missed some calls and meetings. But he finally got his coffee and send emails apologizing.

Cleveland offers Lebron whatever contract he will agree to. We expect him to want a 1+1 but we hope he chooses a full max and end all the future questions now that we have won a title together. Our pitch? I don't think we need one with him honestly.

We have a good Lebron-relationship with Smith, so we expect him to agree to come back. If Lebron agrees to a full max, we offer JR a 4/36 mil deal. If Lebron does another 1+1, we offer JR a 2+partially guaranteed(3mil?) for 10 mil a year. We don't want to offend him, as we really like him, so assuming Lebron does a 1+1 we tell JR to check with us before agreeing with another team if he doesn't like the offer we made though I think both are pretty fair? Those numbers might be way off for JR, but he played great for us and we are all about teamBron this offseason. I will feel awkward if JR gets no offers above 5 mil a year but I expect another GM to have watched the playoffs.

Cleveland tells Matty he can test the market but we will be matching anything, really we have a number in mind that we won't go over, but you don't need to know what it is just like GM's wouldn't know what it is - we can PM that number to the agent if that makes it more realistic? We have a very big fair number in mind for him though as his role isn't easily replaced for a team already over the cap. Our initial offer is 4yr/32.

We know Mo isn't turning his option down, and the other FA's don't matter as they can be brought back for vet min deals (RJ, Jones). We are very hopeful RJ comes back for a vet min deal. Will even include a player option on a second season?

We also don't renounce Mozgov's hold. We understand he might be very upset about his decreased role this season, but if no one offers him big money we'd like the ability to bring him back on a cheap deal. A bigger fan of the Cavs might have better insight to this just not being an option though? Possible the two sides have no interest.

We are (probably unrealistically) interested in moving Shumpert and Frye.

We aren't moving Love or Kyrie unless someone decides to play superstar value for them. We understand they may not be superstars, but we just won a championship.

We understand our payroll is huge, but we are hoping it becomes less painful as the cap increases, which is why we are targeting long term deals with our FA's. Our guys ideally locked into what will be considered reasonable contracts in two years.
.

To clean it up a bit;

Lebron his choice of max 1+1 or full max.

JR - either 4yr/36 or 3yr/30 mil (with 3rd year only 3 mil guaranteed) depending on Lebron's contract. Will up the offer if klutch tells us to, but will have to argue over it for at least a month.

Delle - test the market but we are going to match as we need him

Love/Kyrie - offer like they are superstars if you are going to offer

TT - offer like he is an all-star, but LeBron has to agree to it.. So probably don't offer honestly.

RJ - vet min 2 years

Mozgov - only renounced if he has our number blocked. If we can't land a better "real" center, we will lowball him an offer around 3yr15 mil.

Mo - possibly trade filler if we get active, possibly 3rd PG cheerleader. Undetermined but he sadly didn't opt out.

And again sorry for partying. But we won! So, as has been said, there isn't really much necessary to the offseason. And yes, I didn't check the thread before/at work. My fault.

Any guard offers for Koufos?

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Cleveland wants to talk Shumpert. We understand Kostas has more value than Shumpert though. So we should expand that.. Bogdan, Ben for our next available first (2020 lottery protected w/ lowering protection) and (later of) LAL/Minn 2019 2nd added to it?

Detroit has some small interest in Channing frye

[R-DAWG]

Miami is offering Bismack Biyombo a 3 year, $30 million contract with a player option in year 3, starting at $9.6 million. 4.5% annual raises. Miami's conversation with Biyombo is short and sweet. We dump the rings on the table and show talk about the Heat organization and culture turned Hassan Whiteside from a fringe NBA player to max NBA player in 2 years. We sell Biyombo on the idea of him getting the full max in 2 years, as he's about to turn 26.

Alonzo Mourning will be present when the contract is offered.

Miami is also offering Luol Deng a deal starting at $6 million for 1-3 years in length. Players choice with last year being a player option.

GS may have minimal interest in Bosh and maybe S&T Deng.

What are you offering for Bosh? More exploratory than anything else

[bdpecore]

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Thoughts on this three team deal?

Mil Out: Henson and MCW
Mil In: Koufos, Jerebko and rights to Jackson

Bos Out: Jerebko, Hunter, rights to Jackson and future 2nd
Bos In: Henson and Mclemore

Sac Out: Koufos and Mclemore
Sac In: MCW, Hunter and future 2nd

Feel free to make counter offers or adjustments as seen fit.

[jayjaysee]

Detroit has some small interest in Channing frye

We aren't looking to salary dump him though. We wouldn't have traded for him if that was the goal. We also don't want future assets for him, if any team would actually even offer them.

If we lost JR Smith, we could look at something around Jodie Meeks and something else. Could we get Baynes if we sent a 2nd? But we hope to retain JR. Maybe that's a check back once we know JR's decision? But Meeks+Baynes for Frye+2nd? If JR leaves something around that.

We aren't going to lie to ourselves and claim Frye can land Morris but we might want to see if we can close the pretty wide gap between the two? And we can't really afford Harris - I know I didn't expect to admit that either.

And we'd like to know if you'd take him for cap space and a 2nd? It would be part of a three team trade if we find such a team, but that is the price that the previous team that traded him got so seems reasonable. (Orlando/Portland part of trade)

[HartfordWhalers]

Cleveland GM is still hung over from all the parties, so he has missed some calls and meetings. But he finally got his coffee and send emails apologizing.

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We are (probably unrealistically) interested in moving Shumpert and Frye.

Brewer +Dekker for Shump? Dekker is just one year off being a mid 1st and the money is equal.

[Warriorfan]

Miami is offering Bismack Biyombo a 3 year, $30 million contract with a player option in year 3, starting at $9.6 million. 4.5% annual raises. Miami's conversation with Biyombo is short and sweet. We dump the rings on the table and show talk about the Heat organization and culture turned Hassan Whiteside from a fringe NBA player to max NBA player in 2 years. We sell Biyombo on the idea of him getting the full max in 2 years, as he's about to turn 26.

Alonzo Mourning will be present when the contract is offered.

Miami is also offering Luol Deng a deal starting at $6 million for 1-3 years in length. Players choice with last year being a player option.

GS may have minimal interest in Bosh and maybe S&T Deng.

What are you offering for Bosh? More exploratory than anything else

Livingston and Bogut depending on free agency.

[Texas Chuck]

Cleveland GM is still hung over from all the parties, so he has missed some calls and meetings. But he finally got his coffee and send emails apologizing.

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We are (probably unrealistically) interested in moving Shumpert and Frye.

Brewer +Dekker for Shump? Dekker is just one year off being a mid 1st and the money is equal.

If Cleveland still has interest in Devin Harris, I think Dallas would like to get involved in this deal taking Dekker and sending Harris and ?? Maybe Salah for a cheap shot-blocking backup center? Would save Cleveland from having to match a stupid offer to Delly.

[jayjaysee]

Cleveland GM is still hung over from all the parties, so he has missed some calls and meetings. But he finally got his coffee and send emails apologizing.

...

We are (probably unrealistically) interested in moving Shumpert and Frye.

Brewer +Dekker for Shump? Dekker is just one year off being a mid 1st and the money is equal.

Pending Dekker's physical? I liked him and expected him to go earlier last season, but lingering back issues.. Does the agent decide if he is going to play basketball this year? I understand, I carry the bust factor but can he walk?

Tying an Ariza/Frye swap if Al goes else where? Or even if Al signs with Houston, Frye is just like Millsap-lite! I understand that might lower the value added to a Shump/Brewer swap pretty significantly but I'd view it as a win on Cleveland's side..

[bdpecore]

Yes, we are still planning on keeping Al Horford.

When Horford signs with Houston instead of staying with Atlanta, lets talk trade of Korver/Thabo and you finally hit the reset button the rest of the way.

If you lose out on Horford, Bucks would be willing to send Monroe your way. Monroe, MCW and Bayless (S&T) for Beverley, Motiejunas/Jones (S&T) and Brewer.

Edit: If you are willing to include Motie in the deal the Bucks would also include their 2018 1st (lottery protected) with protection remaining the same through 2020 and then turning into two 2nds the following year.

[jayjaysee]

Cleveland GM is still hung over from all the parties, so he has missed some calls and meetings. But he finally got his coffee and send emails apologizing.

...

We are (probably unrealistically) interested in moving Shumpert and Frye.

Brewer +Dekker for Shump? Dekker is just one year off being a mid 1st and the money is equal.

If Cleveland still has interest in Devin Harris, I think Dallas would like to get involved in this deal taking Dekker and sending Harris and ?? Maybe Salah for a cheap shot-blocking backup center? Would save Cleveland from having to match a stupid offer to Delly.

I hope to be allowed to match a stupid offer to Delly. Unless of course one of my fellow GM's decides he is a near max player.

I'd rather keep Dekker - I thought he'd go earlier last draft.

If we do lose Matty, I'd have a lot of offers for Harris though. He'd fit the role perfectly. We have that 2019 2nd LAL/Minn 2nd.. And a TPE.. Maybe we can make it a better offer with sending Frye to a third team like Detroit who could send Dallas another 2nd. But that all depends on if Delly decides to stay in Cleveland.

We hope he just takes our 4yr/32 million dollar offer tonight as it's a decent amount of money on a title with a very clear role.

[HartfordWhalers]

Cleveland GM is still hung over from all the parties, so he has missed some calls and meetings. But he finally got his coffee and send emails apologizing.

...

We are (probably unrealistically) interested in moving Shumpert and Frye.

Brewer +Dekker for Shump? Dekker is just one year off being a mid 1st and the money is equal.

Pending Dekker's physical? I liked him and expected him to go earlier last season, but lingering back issues.. Does the agent decide if he is going to play basketball this year? I understand, I carry the bust factor but can he walk?

Tying an Ariza/Frye swap if Al goes else where?

No on a swap. Zero interest in Frye and I love Ariza.

I can sub out Dekker for 2 2nds or we can link in Chuck and you get Harris? Not sure how to respond about his health, it is what it is. I haven't heard anything that scared me long term, and was trying to gove you a little value and the cap/tax room for the Shump swap.

Not really sure what 2nds I have, but if you find a variation you like let me know.