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Re: Biyombo Introductory Presser/Hennigan & Vogel interview 

Post#101 » by Nyce_1 » Sun Jul 10, 2016 2:16 am

MagicMatic wrote::roll: Lol at people comparing Biz offense to Vuc.. Yeah his offense is the reason we signed him.

who compared their offenses?
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Re: Biyombo Introductory Presser/Hennigan & Vogel interview 

Post#102 » by OrlDave » Sun Jul 10, 2016 2:16 am

SOUL wrote:I mean, I can see both sides. I do think a lot of posters tend to overrate Vuc's inherent value as far as a trade chip and his offense. While he's a go-to scorer in a sense, he isn't very efficient because of the types of shots he takes. The fact that he has a good touch doesn't mean our offense is going to struggle when he's out.

On the flip side, I want to see what all of these guys can offer with Vogel at the helm and Vuc still provides an interesting skill-set as a big which is rare for people his size, and pairing him with two other bigs that finally complement his playstyle (Ibaka moreso than Biz, but you can also fit Gordon in there) means he doesn't have to be relied upon to be the anchor since we know that isn't his game.

His value can really rise because of that. Not to mention, he's a good teammate and truly wants to see our team do better. We can't flip players without vision.



I agree with all of this, except I do think we'll struggle some offensively without Nik unless Mario or Aaron step up (entirely possible). At one point late in the season during a game a stat popped up showing Vuc as the 5th or 6th best post player last year, the problem was that too little of his touches were actually IN the post. A inside/outside game with Vuc and Ibaka will work beautifully as long as Vuc is actually inside and not at 15 feet. I think Vogel is smart enough to make that happen. Skiles was completely and absolutely incompetent on the offensive end.
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Re: Biyombo Introductory Presser/Hennigan & Vogel interview 

Post#103 » by Bensational » Sun Jul 10, 2016 3:54 am

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SOUL wrote:I mean, I can see both sides. I do think a lot of posters tend to overrate Vuc's inherent value as far as a trade chip and his offense. While he's a go-to scorer in a sense, he isn't very efficient because of the types of shots he takes. The fact that he has a good touch doesn't mean our offense is going to struggle when he's out.

On the flip side, I want to see what all of these guys can offer with Vogel at the helm and Vuc still provides an interesting skill-set as a big which is rare for people his size, and pairing him with two other bigs that finally complement his playstyle (Ibaka moreso than Biz, but you can also fit Gordon in there) means he doesn't have to be relied upon to be the anchor since we know that isn't his game.

His value can really rise because of that. Not to mention, he's a good teammate and truly wants to see our team do better. We can't flip players without vision.



I agree with all of this, except I do think we'll struggle some offensively without Nik unless Mario or Aaron step up (entirely possible). At one point late in the season during a game a stat popped up showing Vuc as the 5th or 6th best post player last year, the problem was that too little of his touches were actually IN the post. A inside/outside game with Vuc and Ibaka will work beautifully as long as Vuc is actually inside and not at 15 feet. I think Vogel is smart enough to make that happen. Skiles was completely and absolutely incompetent on the offensive end.


Yeah, Vuc's inside game is strong. His outside game should've been used only as a mild offset, to keep defenses on their toes if they start clogging the paint. But it became his go-to move under Skiles. Heck, the mid-range shot became everyone's go-to move - it was disgusting.

I'd still like to see Vuc extend his range to the 3pt line, and I think he's entirely capable of that.

I'm entirely hopeful Vogel puts him back in the paint, but if you see the usage of Turner, he shot mostly from 16ft-3pt line. 36% of his shots came from there, whilst 29% came from 0-3ft. And the fg% discrepancy doesn't really support it, with Turner shooting 69% at the rim and 43% from deep. BUT, that was most likely because of Mahinmi's presence, and the fact he has no range whatsoever. With Ibaka, it should open the floor up a lot more for Vuc.
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Re: Biyombo Introductory Presser/Hennigan & Vogel interview 

Post#104 » by Skin » Sun Jul 10, 2016 8:00 am

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Post#105 » by basketballRob » Sun Jul 10, 2016 10:56 am

Skin wrote:Bangbros!


Lol. That's a porn name.
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Re: Biyombo Introductory Presser/Hennigan & Vogel interview 

Post#106 » by Tcarl67 » Sun Jul 10, 2016 11:54 am

~Snoopy~ wrote:
Smitty731 wrote:
Versubio wrote:For those wondering about what Biyombo's jersey number is gonna be. When you look at his profile on yahoo sports they have him wearing #18. I don't know if that's accurate, though.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/4888/


It sounds like he wants #8, but hasn't been able to to talk to Hezonja. I think he has the cash to pay for the # now! :wink:


lol just yday I watched

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFQ1TOVIYsI[/youtube]



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