Sitting next to Gar Forman

League Circles · Post #21 » by **League Circles** » Wed Jul 13, 2016 1:01 pm

Who was he talking to about Paul Zipser's contract negotiations in public within earshot of fans?

Mech Engineer · Post #22 » by **Mech Engineer** » Wed Jul 13, 2016 1:08 pm

Red8911 wrote:Why would Gar be talking about all this during the game?? There is a time and place for that.He is more of a douche than I thought.

It tells us that is why guys like Pax and Thibs have Gar and Layden. They have to do the dirty work and can't mess up because a million more to Zipser might make them inflexible next year or this year. It also tells there is no break for these guys.....stressful.

We don't know what Gar is really good at as a GM. Is it contracts, salary cap manipulation, free agency and agent relationships, scouting?

That's why we heard Thibs hired Layden.... to do the contracts. This might not be Gar's expertise or it might just be a bad situation(Zipser)

ImSlower · Post #23 » by **ImSlower** » Wed Jul 13, 2016 3:34 pm

Thank you for the little update, wonder. I always enjoy reading snippets like this from outside the media.

AAU Teammate · Post #24 » by **AAU Teammate** » Wed Jul 13, 2016 3:37 pm

With the big money being given out, the new art is finding the next E'Twaun type and getting a rotation guy on a tiny contract for as many years as you can

Zipser probably sees these free agent dollars and already sees himself as being worth half as much as Allen Crabbe if he can be half as talented as Allen Crabbe. lol.

AAU Teammate · Post #25 » by **AAU Teammate** » Wed Jul 13, 2016 3:52 pm

the OP mentions "Gar formen" and i'm picturing something you rub on your scalp to grow hair

johnnyvann840 · Post #26 » by **johnnyvann840** » Wed Jul 13, 2016 4:21 pm

wonderboy2 wrote:So as I'm typing this I'm sitting right above Gar formen at NBA summer league.Feel free to lock but just a couple of nuggets. Sounds like he not happy with Paul Zisper. They are trying to do a 2 year fully guarantee deal and then 2 years non guarantee after that. Sounds like zipster agent is hard balling them. Also gar mentioned something about jerry thinking that the contracts being thrown out is stupid. He kept mentioning whiteheads from Brooklyn contract. Gar Foreman really like Zipster but seems really frustrated with his people. Won't mention anything more as I don't think I've should've been ease dropping into their conversation.

This thread is an instant classic!

Nice call Wonderboy!..

You really were sitting behind Gar!

Post #27 » by **fleet** » Wed Jul 13, 2016 4:31 pm

wonderboy2 wrote:So as I'm typing this I'm sitting right above Gar formen at NBA summer league.Feel free to lock but just a couple of nuggets. Sounds like he not happy with Paul Zisper. They are trying to do a 2 year fully guarantee deal and then 2 years non guarantee after that. Sounds like zipster agent is hard balling them. Also gar mentioned something about jerry thinking that the contracts being thrown out is stupid. He kept mentioning whiteheads from Brooklyn contract. Gar Foreman really like Zipster but seems really frustrated with his people. Won't mention anything more as I don't think I've should've been ease dropping into their conversation.

Who needs KC Johnson?

FriedRise · Post #28 » by **FriedRise** » Wed Jul 13, 2016 4:32 pm

Wonderboy getting some traction from the Twitter-verse too:
[tweet]https://twitter.com/chicagobullsbot/status/753223401037189120[/tweet]
[tweet]https://twitter.com/chicagobullsbot/status/753223474668109824[/tweet]
[tweet]https://twitter.com/chicagobullsbot/status/753224869530132481[/tweet]

Also on reddit:
https://www.reddit.com/r/chicagobulls/comments/4snkne/gar_forman_just_because_everybody_else_is_giving/

I'd wear a hoodie and lay low for the next couple days. You never know, the Gar Squad might be scouring the arenas of Las Vegas Summer League looking for the leak! :lol:

Mech Engineer · Post #29 » by **Mech Engineer** » Wed Jul 13, 2016 4:46 pm

If Wonderboy had worn a Iowa State/New Mexico hoodie, he might be working for the Bulls by now.

Excellent sleuth work...

Post #30 » by **HomoSapien** » Wed Jul 13, 2016 7:32 pm

So surely now you can tell us what else was discussed, Wonderboy. If Gar's dumb enough to air out his dirty laundry in a public setting with other basketball fans, then hard to feel bad for him.

MissileMike · Post #31 » by **MissileMike** » Wed Jul 13, 2016 7:41 pm

GJ Wonderboy2, this thread is a total winner.

HINrichPolice · Post #32 » by **HINrichPolice** » Wed Jul 13, 2016 10:36 pm

wonderboy2, awesome work! And please share anything else! We're starving for inside info!

Just to backup wonderboy2 even more, I sat literally the seat in front of Gar during Summer League (I was with Doug "The Great" Thonus, which might have been more exhilarting!). This was the year we drafted Taj and James Johnson.

It was fun hearing the guy next to Gar (Matt Loyd probably) commentate on summer league players as if we were all sitting at a bar together. For the record, I was wearing a Bulls jersey, so it was obvious we were Bulls fans and it didn't hold Loyd back from making comments.

Doug even talked to Gar about his podcast and blog. Gar was asking Doug some questions (I wasn't there for this part) as if to test Doug's knowledge. When Doug proved himself, I believe Gar asked him where he could find Doug's blog.

Southpaw · Post #33 » by **Southpaw** » Wed Jul 13, 2016 11:46 pm

HomoSapien wrote:The Grizzlies just handed out Deyonta Davis a big contract, and that might have made this more complicated for the Bulls, especially if Zipser really is regarded as a nice prospect around the league. I wouldn't criticize his agent though --- it's his job to squeeze every penny out of the Bulls that he can.

I always wondered this but never found the answer/never asked about it here. Why did Davis fall so hard? I remember he was projected as high as top 10 in the draft, then fell all the way to the 2nd round. Same thing that happened to DeAndre Jordan.

Post #34 » by **GimmeDat** » Wed Jul 13, 2016 11:52 pm

+1 Love to know if you heard anything else, wonderboy.

Shill · Post #35 » by **Shill** » Wed Jul 13, 2016 11:53 pm

HomoSapien wrote:So surely now you can tell us what else was discussed, Wonderboy. If Gar's dumb enough to air out his dirty laundry in a public setting with other basketball fans, then hard to feel bad for him.

wonderboy was actually lurking in the shadows of Gar's living room.

BeatDaCavs420 · Post #36 » by **BeatDaCavs420** » Wed Jul 13, 2016 11:58 pm

Plot twist

Wonderboy is Gar!

LOL Jk thank you for sharing this. Pretty cool that the next day the news breaks!

RememberLu · Post #37 » by **RememberLu** » Thu Jul 14, 2016 12:30 am

This is what our FO is busy worrying about?

Paul freakin Zipser?

I agree with his sentiment though, 4 years for Paul Zipser? gtfo

SearsTower · Post #38 » by **SearsTower** » Thu Jul 14, 2016 1:12 am

Wonderboy, would you say that sitting close enough to Gar Forman is...the secret of your power?

IcemanGervin · Post #39 » by **IcemanGervin** » Thu Jul 14, 2016 1:37 am

This thread is a regular Roy Hobbs home run.

I'll see myself out.

Post #40 » by **RedBulls23** » Thu Jul 14, 2016 1:38 am

RememberLu wrote:This is what our FO is busy worrying about?

Paul freakin Zipser?

I agree with his sentiment though, 4 years for Paul Zipser? gtfo

Yes, worrying about signing a player you drafted is one of the many things the FO should worry about and want to get done.