Teams with young cores better then ours

[BadMofoPimp]

It happens, remember Jerome James, Tim Thomas, and Austin Croshere?

Eddy Curry, lol. At least Bismark is younger than all them but it sure is a risky signing.

He's an elite rim defender and rebounder, and only 23. Limited risk in that you know you are getting atleast two elite skills, and if a role player is all he ever is atleast you know he's elite in those roles.

Worst case scenario, he is a 20-30mpg role playing Defensive Specialist. I am not unhappy with the signing, but just think Henny overpaid a little. I wouldn't hand over the starting reins to this kid anytime soon unless he can improve himself and prove he can play 30 plus mpg without hurting the team too much in other areas including fouling out.

[EAS Law]

So basically, we're envious of teams that we routinely beat, players that had one or two good games, teams that have worse records, and teams with rookies that have maybe gotten about 5 Summer League games under their belt.

Excellent.

What was our record against each of those teams last year?

Feel free to look it up yourself. I'm not sifting through the 82 game season to make your argument.

We swept Minny, beat Utah, Milwaukee, and Boston off the top of my head.

We missed the playoffs, so naturally, chances are that the records were close. My point remains that this board is becoming almost toxic with this constant focus on who's better than us individually or collectively. Better start packing up the bandwagon now.

His name is Bismack btw.

[BadMofoPimp]

So basically, we're envious of teams that we routinely beat, players that had one or two good games, teams that have worse records, and teams with rookies that have maybe gotten about 5 Summer League games under their belt.

Excellent.

What was our record against each of those teams last year?

Feel free to look it up yourself. I'm not sifting through the 82 game season to make your argument.

We swept Minny, beat Utah, Milwaukee, and Boston off the top of my head.

We missed the playoffs, so naturally, chances are that the records were close. My point remains that this board is becoming almost toxic with this constant focus on who's better than us individually or collectively. Better start packing up the bandwagon now.

His name is Bismack btw.

Just saying. Since you stated routinely, I don't think winning a season series 3-2 counts as routinely. 4-1 perhaps, but to routinely beat someone, you have to really beat them often. I am just curious how we faired against the other young groups. Not doubting you, yet!

[Orlwillbeback]

Philly is being overlooked here slightly..i know there fans can be a bit much but on paper its pretty encouraging

Simmons, Embid, Saric | Trade Assetts: Noel, Okafor, Luwawu, Mconell, picks

The only young players they have with alot of value are Simmons and Noel, and Noel doesn't have much.

Embiid is too much of a mixed bag and Okafor has very little value around the league.

[EAS Law]

What was our record against each of those teams last year?

Feel free to look it up yourself. I'm not sifting through the 82 game season to make your argument.

We swept Minny, beat Utah, Milwaukee, and Boston off the top of my head.

We missed the playoffs, so naturally, chances are that the records were close. My point remains that this board is becoming almost toxic with this constant focus on who's better than us individually or collectively. Better start packing up the bandwagon now.

His name is Bismack btw.

Just saying. Since you stated routinely, I don't think winning a season series 3-2 counts as routinely. 4-1 perhaps, but to routinely beat someone, you have to really beat them often. I am just curious how we faired against the other young groups. Not doubting you, yet!

I feel you for sure. I'm of the opinion that these other clubs aren't "better" than us because we drop one or two more games than they do against each other. For example, is Washington contender status because they swept us? Of course not, a lot has to do with match ups.

These rookies could be very good too, and I remember thinking how good KAT is when we faced the Wolves the last time. Wiggins, eh I think he's going to be pretty good, nothing crazy.

Boston, I wouldn't trade anyone we have for any of their guys. You could make a case for IT, but I'd still be tepid on a market deal for a guy like him. We are right there if not better than most of these other clubs man. Most people here don't see it that way, but it's just a matter of us not knowing the flaws of the other dudes.

Hypothetically, if we ever traded for these other players, it would be an exact Dipo-trade situation where we get lambasted and the comments would roll in about how we got fleeced.

[ralphie9898]

Uh why is anybody not mentioning Golden State. Is it because they are already a proven champion and have become an MVP. If so i can understand but they clearly have the edge over anyone in terms of young talent.

[Baka_La Flame]

Simmons + a top pick in next years loaded class would put philly up there with the Wolves imo. That draft is crazy stacked. If there was ever a time to land a star it would be this year. Unfortunately we might finish with the 10th-15th pick. Still could get another solid piece tho
But jeez if we could some how get our hands on Tatum Giles or Jackson I would be stoked.

[ralphie9898]

Philly is being overlooked here slightly..i know there fans can be a bit much but on paper its pretty encouraging

Simmons, Embid, Saric | Trade Assetts: Noel, Okafor, Luwawu, Mconell, picks

The only young players they have with alot of value are Simmons and Noel, and Noel doesn't have much.

Embiid is too much of a mixed bag and Okafor has very little value around the league.

Saric is a very real threat and has really good value. If Embid is healthy he still has the potential to be a very good big man. Noel has good value. Okafor is a member of the dying breed of centers but they aren't dead yet and he still has value similar to Vuc if he can up his scoring average. Simmons is a big time prospect that trumps anything we got. There problem is that all of these guys play pretty much the same spot but they do have talent that is comparable if not better with potential to even be more so.

[nymets1]

If your looking to avoid seeing opponents because of the price of the tickets than 100% you want to avoid seeing the Warriors, Cavs and Knicks but those are the 3 teams I want to see the most.

If its still because the tickets are too expensive that you want to avoid vs Clippers, Spurs, Bulls

Teams you definitely want or should go see- Vs Bucks, Wolves, Suns, Jazz, Pelicans, Lakers, Nuggets , Raptors and Sixers

Avoid going to see the Kings, Hornets, Mavericks, Rockets, Grizzles and the Heat

Teams that are ok to go see: Wizards, Pistons, Pacers, Hawks, Trail Blazers

[BadMofoPimp]

Feel free to look it up yourself. I'm not sifting through the 82 game season to make your argument.

We swept Minny, beat Utah, Milwaukee, and Boston off the top of my head.

We missed the playoffs, so naturally, chances are that the records were close. My point remains that this board is becoming almost toxic with this constant focus on who's better than us individually or collectively. Better start packing up the bandwagon now.

His name is Bismack btw.

Just saying. Since you stated routinely, I don't think winning a season series 3-2 counts as routinely. 4-1 perhaps, but to routinely beat someone, you have to really beat them often. I am just curious how we faired against the other young groups. Not doubting you, yet!

I feel you for sure. I'm of the opinion that these other clubs aren't "better" than us because we drop one or two more games than they do against each other. For example, is Washington contender status because they swept us? Of course not, a lot has to do with match ups.

These rookies could be very good too, and I remember thinking how good KAT is when we faced the Wolves the last time. Wiggins, eh I think he's going to be pretty good, nothing crazy.

Boston, I wouldn't trade anyone we have for any of their guys. You could make a case for IT, but I'd still be tepid on a market deal for a guy like him. We are right there if not better than most of these other clubs man. Most people here don't see it that way, but it's just a matter of us not knowing the flaws of the other dudes.

Hypothetically, if we ever traded for these other players, it would be an exact Dipo-trade situation where we get lambasted and the comments would roll in about how we got fleeced.

Isaiah makes like $8 mil per right now. I would give up just about most players on this team for him. Dude is way underrated. Maybe not AG, but about anyone else I would consider straight up.

[Shady Franchise]

Need to put an age on this. Durant, Curry, Klay are still fairly young. Maybe under 25 only?

Agree. Why is Hayward included for Utah, but not Ibaka for the Magic? Hayward is only 6 months younger.

[BadMofoPimp]

Need to put an age on this. Durant, Curry, Klay are still fairly young. Maybe under 25 only?

Agree. Why is Hayward included for Utah, but not Ibaka for the Magic? Hayward is only 6 months younger.

Cutoff < 24 years old

Davis and Drummond are clearly the best under 24 players right now, so Detroit and New Orleans are sitting pretty. After that it is pretty wide open. I'm happy to root for our young core.

Philly with Simmons, Okafor, Noel, Embiid, Stauskus
Milwaukee with Antetokounmpo, Parker, Maker
Magic with Payton, Gordon, Hezonja
Jazz with Lyles, Prince, Exum
Portland with Vonley
Minnesota with Lavine, Towns, Wiggins, Dunn
Denver with Mudiay, Jokic, Nurkic, Harris, Murray
Detroit with Johnson, Drummond, Pope
Boston with Smart, Brown
Lakers with Russell, Randle, Ingram
Pelicans with Davis, Hield

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[Xatticus]

So basically, we're envious of teams that we routinely beat, players that had one or two good games, teams that have worse records, and teams with rookies that have maybe gotten about 5 Summer League games under their belt.

Excellent.

What was our record against each of those teams last year?

Feel free to look it up yourself. I'm not sifting through the 82 game season to make your argument.

We swept Minny, beat Utah, Milwaukee, and Boston off the top of my head.

We missed the playoffs, so naturally, chances are that the records were close. My point remains that this board is becoming almost toxic with this constant focus on who's better than us individually or collectively. Better start packing up the bandwagon now.

His name is Bismack btw.

Wait... so it's not this guy?

[Xatticus]

Boston, I wouldn't trade anyone we have for any of their guys. You could make a case for IT, but I'd still be tepid on a market deal for a guy like him. We are right there if not better than most of these other clubs man. Most people here don't see it that way, but it's just a matter of us not knowing the flaws of the other dudes.

None of their guys are on market deals though, which is what makes them so appealing.

[EAS Law]

Boston, I wouldn't trade anyone we have for any of their guys. You could make a case for IT, but I'd still be tepid on a market deal for a guy like him. We are right there if not better than most of these other clubs man. Most people here don't see it that way, but it's just a matter of us not knowing the flaws of the other dudes.

None of their guys are on market deals though, which is what makes them so appealing.

Absolutely a good deal for Boston, what I mean is if they were a trade partner, I wouldn't be excited for us making a deal for any of their guys considering who they'd expect in return.

[T-DOT KEEZY]

Bucks, Wolves, Blazers, Suns, Sixers.

[ralphie9898]

Bucks, Wolves, Blazers, Suns, Sixers.

Celtica as well and the team that trumps em all Golden State.

[seeingstars]

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