A lot of Celtics Trash rumors part 3

[OFWGKTA]

Yo guys watch The Night Of on HBO

Nah, but I'm waiting until 10 pm for the Season 2 Premiere of Ballers.

The Rock is the man.

The Night Of is 50x the show Ballers is, and I like Ballers

[Froob]

Yo guys watch The Night Of on HBO

I wish I could be watching literally anything aside from this Luke Bryan concert. This guy should be arrested to what he's done to the music industry and human intelligence.

[shackles10]

Spoiler:

No sh*t. Did I ask him to name his "sources"? No. I simply said his "sources" are misleading him and he's the one who will take the heat for it if it's not true. That's how reporting works in the big leagues. Anyone who thinks Woj from Yahoo doesn't have any info info Doc on an advanced talk Griffin to Boston deal but other people do is kidding themselves. Everyone in the NBA knows Doc leaks everything to Woj first. Been that way for years.

Woj said the Cs had no chance at Horford 10 minutes before it was announced.

Bro, are you paying attention to what the hell I'm saying?????????????? Did I say Woj was never wrong? No, quite the contrary. I rag on the guy all the fn time on this message board and claim he's overrated and not this big time "insider" that people think he is. The Horford comment you just mentioned confirms and validates what the hell I was saying about Woj during last season on this message board when everyone was acting like he's a God every trade deadline.

Now, on the flip side, what I am saying in this thread and have always said about Woj is that he is Doc's jock sniffer and vice versa. I hate Doc. It's no secret. I used to rag on the guy when he was here on this forum because A) he's an overrated head coach that chokes more than not and B) he is a big time leaker of information and especially to Woj from Yahoo. When Doc was here in Boston we used to always get articles from Woj on Yahoo about rumored Celtics deals, lockerroom tidbits about Rondo, etc.... That all stopped when Doc left town. However, Woj continued to have stories from Doc about the Clippers. Doc leaks EVERYTHING to Woj at Yahoo and Woj is all too happy to return the favor by pumping Doc's tires like he did in the summer of 2012 after the Olympics when he said Doc would be a great choice for future Team USA coach.

Catch up man. I'm not a Woj fan at all...........however, he is the #1 guy to turn to for anything involving a Doc Rivers coached team.

Just curious, but do you expect Woj to report any of this when it's only in the rumors stage? That doesn't seem like that's what he's done in years.

[truth18]

Yo guys watch The Night Of on HBO

Nah, but I'm waiting until 10 pm for the Season 2 Premiere of Ballers.

The Rock is the man.

The Night Of is 50x the show Ballers is, and I like Ballers

Saw the first episode. Decent show so far. Pumped that Bodie from the Wire and the dude from Barton Fink are in it.

[BfB]

I didn't question Smitty. I said his "sources" are full of sh*t. His "sources" have no skin in the game.........they are anonymous. Smitty has skin in the game..........his name on twitter and realgm. I never called him out but, best believe, I am saying his "sources" are full of it and misleading him if they are telling him something is close or more than just normal trade jibber jabber.

Name one reporter or writer who NAMES their sources? Saying a person's sources are anonymous is how it works.

No sh*t. Did I ask him to name his "sources"? No. I simply said his "sources" are misleading him and he's the one who will take the heat for it if it's not true. That's how reporting works in the big leagues. Anyone who thinks Woj from Yahoo doesn't have any info info Doc on an advanced talk Griffin to Boston deal but other people do is kidding themselves. Everyone in the NBA knows Doc leaks everything to Woj first. Been that way for years.

and "everybody knows" WOJ waits until "done deal" time before reporting most of the news he breaks.

You've been spoiled with play-by-play from an organic, developing situation and acting like a little bitch because you don't understand how the business works.

Why don't you shut the **** up and enjoy being privy to an ongoing situation instead of continuing with the rebel without a clue routine.

Cuz when it comes to actually grasping how media and bball ops interact - you sir are the biggest ham and egger of them all.





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[DK-All Day]

Spoiler:

Woj said the Cs had no chance at Horford 10 minutes before it was announced.

Bro, are you paying attention to what the hell I'm saying?????????????? Did I say Woj was never wrong? No, quite the contrary. I rag on the guy all the fn time on this message board and claim he's overrated and not this big time "insider" that people think he is. The Horford comment you just mentioned confirms and validates what the hell I was saying about Woj during last season on this message board when everyone was acting like he's a God every trade deadline.

Now, on the flip side, what I am saying in this thread and have always said about Woj is that he is Doc's jock sniffer and vice versa. I hate Doc. It's no secret. I used to rag on the guy when he was here on this forum because A) he's an overrated head coach that chokes more than not and B) he is a big time leaker of information and especially to Woj from Yahoo. When Doc was here in Boston we used to always get articles from Woj on Yahoo about rumored Celtics deals, lockerroom tidbits about Rondo, etc.... That all stopped when Doc left town. However, Woj continued to have stories from Doc about the Clippers. Doc leaks EVERYTHING to Woj at Yahoo and Woj is all too happy to return the favor by pumping Doc's tires like he did in the summer of 2012 after the Olympics when he said Doc would be a great choice for future Team USA coach.

Catch up man. I'm not a Woj fan at all...........however, he is the #1 guy to turn to for anything involving a Doc Rivers coached team.

Just curious, but do you expect Woj to report any of this when it's only in the rumors stage? That doesn't seem like that's what he's done in years.

Woj doesn't post rumors any more. He basically let's you know when deals are finished.

[Tai]

Well there isn't much choice there is there? I will say right now whatever top 5 picks they get will be better than Griffin. Westbrook may be tough to beat, but Stevens and Co. may come close. Griffin and Westbrook are 27. The draft picks may be around 19-20. That's 7 extra years. And I bet they mature very quickly with the FA additions and the coaching. Just watch Jaylen this year. You have what, 5 ish years of elite performance form those guys before they start slowing down? I'd rather have 10 years. Just makes more sense.

How do we know this?? Do you even know today who'd you want out of next year's draft?

Oh wait. You are a now now now person right? With no guarantee and to hell with what happens post year 4 or 5? Back to the dark days? See, that makes no sense to me. None at all. They may get lucky and win one this year with what they have right now.

Well, I'm not necessarily a "now now" guy, but a legit star for the right price makes sense to me, as it should anyone.

I liked your initial post since you at least gave a name to look out for this coming season. Cause if we don't know who to look out for, why do we value the pick so much? And that's assuming it eventually turns into another top 3 pick; it's funny some of the debbie downers (not you) of this very rumor topic don't emphasize that pessimism towards whether the lottery plays in our favor or not. Not saying the Nets will finish last and that will turn into the 5th pick, but optimism/pessimism I'd like to think work both ways.

And yea, if they get to the ECF, it's a success. But it's highly unlikely they win this year.

[claycarver]

Name one reporter or writer who NAMES their sources? Saying a person's sources are anonymous is how it works.

No sh*t. Did I ask him to name his "sources"? No. I simply said his "sources" are misleading him and he's the one who will take the heat for it if it's not true. That's how reporting works in the big leagues. Anyone who thinks Woj from Yahoo doesn't have any info info Doc on an advanced talk Griffin to Boston deal but other people do is kidding themselves. Everyone in the NBA knows Doc leaks everything to Woj first. Been that way for years.

and "everybody knows" WOJ waits until "done deal" time before reporting most of the news he breaks.

You've been spoiled with play-by-play from an organic, developing situation and acting like a little bitch because you don't understand how the business works.

Why don't you shut the **** up and enjoy being privy to an ongoing situation instead of continuing with the rebel without a clue routine.

Cuz when it comes to actually grasping how media and bball ops interact - you sir are the biggest ham and egger of them all.

[emkeyfour]

Celtics are just not fortunate enough to get players like Griffin or Westbrook.

We got KG 100% because of Kevin McHale and Jefferson turned out to be a stud.

We don't have one single player to give away that's a stud other than IT and Horford. Forget the picks, forget Bradley and Jae and other scrubs we have no STAR or potential star players that other teams want.

Why would ANYONE give you a star player for some scrubs or some draft picks that have 0.1% chance of being good like the star player you would receive.

If you had a Ferrari would you trade it for Ford Focus ? Sure both will take you to point A and B but that Ferrari will get you there in style.

Our entire roster right now has two OK All Stars and solid role players - nothing else. So if you area GM ...would you give a bonafied ALL STAR player for someone like Jae, Bradley, Smart and some picks...


The only way you might consider this is if you are 100% sure that your free agent won't return. Other than that NO.


People like to mention the KG trade. We traded 7 players for KG. Al Jefferson was and still is one of the best low post scorers in the game.

Again say what you want but this is how I seperate MEN from the BOYS..

IT. - Solid player and a back up ALL STAR.
Al Horford - Very good player and also back up ALL Star

These two players are very good players and COULD get you a TRUE star if a trade was going to happen but they are not your ELITE, KILLER ALL STARS

jae crowder
Al bradley
Marcus Smart
Olenyk
Jerberko can't even write his name
Zeller
Brown

Etc etc etc


To me these players are LAUGHING STOCK.

Bradley would do fine in Cleveland and Warriors for defensice purposes and what not. Same with Jae to be that James Posey guy. Or Leon Powe

but realisticay all these guys besides IT and Al Horford dont fetch that much.


So again, its nice to talk about rumors but I have to agree with BannersOnly. People do crazy and weird things for attention and some cyber fame.

This pathetic loser on Twitter is just a lamer who is probably on these forums, heck maybe even involved with this thread.

A lesson should be learned from the KD fiasco. KD was never coming here to play with the players we have now.

I respect Al Horfords decision to play here but giving him that amount of mone at 30 yrs of age WE MUST COMPETE for a championship while he is still somewhat young. If by 33-34 we are not a serious contenders then that Max Contract the gave him was a HUGE WASTE OF MONEY.

[Fencer reregistered]

. And I was wrong about the players. It isn't 10 years. It's 13 years (20-33). Much better than 5, no?

Yes and no. Players become free agents multiple times over a time period like that. Indeed, a major premise of this whole thread is that:

-- There was great doubt as to whether Westbrook would stay that long in OKC.
-- For that reason and others, Durant chose not to stay that long in OKC.
-- Now there's even more reason to think Westbrook won't stay that long in OKC.

[BannersOnly]

Oh, so you are are tough guy now? Calling people a b*tch and telling people to shut the f*ck up is how you want to do it? Tell you what punk, PM me and meet me ANYWHERE anytime and say it to my face. You may get 20 and 1's from that "tough talk" on a forum but you'd be missing 20 teeth if you said it in real life. PM me.......say it to my face boy.

Name one reporter or writer who NAMES their sources? Saying a person's sources are anonymous is how it works.

No sh*t. Did I ask him to name his "sources"? No. I simply said his "sources" are misleading him and he's the one who will take the heat for it if it's not true. That's how reporting works in the big leagues. Anyone who thinks Woj from Yahoo doesn't have any info info Doc on an advanced talk Griffin to Boston deal but other people do is kidding themselves. Everyone in the NBA knows Doc leaks everything to Woj first. Been that way for years.

and "everybody knows" WOJ waits until "done deal" time before reporting most of the news he breaks.

You've been spoiled with play-by-play from an organic, developing situation and acting like a little bitch because you don't understand how the business works.

Why don't you shut the **** up and enjoy being privy to an ongoing situation instead of continuing with the rebel without a clue routine.

Cuz when it comes to actually grasping how media and bball ops interact - you sir are the biggest ham and egger of them all.






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[TommyPoints]

[sam_I_am]

Celtics are just not fortunate enough to get players like Griffin or Westbrook.

We got KG 100% because of Kevin McHale and Jefferson turned out to be a stud.

We don't have one single player to give away that's a stud other than IT and Horford. Forget the picks, forget Bradley and Jae and other scrubs we have no STAR or potential star players that other teams want.

Why would ANYONE give you a star player for some scrubs or some draft picks that have 0.1% chance of being good like the star player you would receive.

If you had a Ferrari would you trade it for Ford Focus ? Sure both will take you to point A and B but that Ferrari will get you there in style.

Our entire roster right now has two OK All Stars and solid role players - nothing else. So if you area GM ...would you give a bonafied ALL STAR player for someone like Jae, Bradley, Smart and some picks...


The only way you might consider this is if you are 100% sure that your free agent won't return. Other than that NO.


People like to mention the KG trade. We traded 7 players for KG. Al Jefferson was and still is one of the best low post scorers in the game.

Again say what you want but this is how I seperate MEN from the BOYS..

IT. - Solid player and a back up ALL STAR.
Al Horford - Very good player and also back up ALL Star

These two players are very good players and COULD get you a TRUE star if a trade was going to happen but they are not your ELITE, KILLER ALL STARS

jae crowder
Al bradley
Marcus Smart
Olenyk
Jerberko can't even write his name
Zeller
Brown

Etc etc etc


To me these players are LAUGHING STOCK.

Bradley would do fine in Cleveland and Warriors for defensice purposes and what not. Same with Jae to be that James Posey guy. Or Leon Powe

but realisticay all these guys besides IT and Al Horford dont fetch that much.


So again, its nice to talk about rumors but I have to agree with BannersOnly. People do crazy and weird things for attention and some cyber fame.

This pathetic loser on Twitter is just a lamer who is probably on these forums, heck maybe even involved with this thread.

A lesson should be learned from the KD fiasco. KD was never coming here to play with the players we have now.

I respect Al Horfords decision to play here but giving him that amount of mone at 30 yrs of age WE MUST COMPETE for a championship while he is still somewhat young. If by 33-34 we are not a serious contenders then that Max Contract the gave him was a HUGE WASTE OF MONEY.

You are probably too young to remember James Harden trade. I believe Jeremy Lamb and Kevin Martin and no lottery picks got it done.

[claycarver]

Why would ANYONE give you a star player for some scrubs or some draft picks that have 0.1% chance of being good like the star player you would receive.

If you're already at the repeater salary limit, you're looking ahead and saying, "We can't sign these guys again and get under the penalty," you start to look for best value. And if quality talent on a cost controlled salary is a high value to you, there is no better team to trade with than the Boston Celtics.

Think for a minute about the unique value of those Brooklyn picks. It is IMPOSSIBLE to trade Blake Griffin for a pick that high. Any other team you trade Griffin to immediate becomes better than Brooklyn will be. We are the only team in a position to offer up a trade for a top 5 pick in next years draft. And honestly, its not smart to bet against the value of the 18BK pick either.

Now think about the salaries we have to trade. Are you going to find IT, Jae, or Avery level talent at such low contract. No, not unless they're rookies. An All-Star making $6 mill. An all defense first teamer making $8. A versitile and high quality starting small forward locked in for FOUR years at $6.

Do you really see no value for other teams with these assets? If I'm the Clippers looking for some cap relief, I see nothing but opportunity there.

[ViperGTS]

How do we know this?? Do you even know today who'd you want out of next year's draft?

Oh wait. You are a now now now person right? With no guarantee and to hell with what happens post year 4 or 5? Back to the dark days? See, that makes no sense to me. None at all. They may get lucky and win one this year with what they have right now.

Well, I'm not necessarily a "now now" guy, but a legit star for the right price makes sense to me, as it should anyone.

I liked your initial post since you at least gave a name to look out for this coming season. Cause if we don't know who to look out for, why do we value the pick so much? And that's assuming it eventually turns into another top 3 pick; it's funny some of the debbie downers (not you) of this very rumor topic don't emphasize that pessimism towards whether the lottery plays in our favor or not. Not saying the Nets will finish last and that will turn into the 5th pick, but optimism/pessimism I'd like to think work both ways.

And yea, if they get to the ECF, it's a success. But it's highly unlikely they win this year.

Oh don't get me wrong. I have my reservations about the NBA giving us the number one pick. 2 or 3 would be good enough for me. I dunno. I just don't think Griffins is worth either of the picks and Westbrook...it's tough with the one year deal. I'd rather take a shot in FA next off season.

[KGboss]

Honestly **** Banners and everyone else for pushing Smitty away just because you dont understand how **** works. Its stupid and theres no point to this thread now that he isnt reporting anything.

[The Corey's]

Celtics roster is mostly set. We all should get used to it till the trade deadline

[shackles10]

Spoiler:

Bro, are you paying attention to what the hell I'm saying?????????????? Did I say Woj was never wrong? No, quite the contrary. I rag on the guy all the fn time on this message board and claim he's overrated and not this big time "insider" that people think he is. The Horford comment you just mentioned confirms and validates what the hell I was saying about Woj during last season on this message board when everyone was acting like he's a God every trade deadline.

Now, on the flip side, what I am saying in this thread and have always said about Woj is that he is Doc's jock sniffer and vice versa. I hate Doc. It's no secret. I used to rag on the guy when he was here on this forum because A) he's an overrated head coach that chokes more than not and B) he is a big time leaker of information and especially to Woj from Yahoo. When Doc was here in Boston we used to always get articles from Woj on Yahoo about rumored Celtics deals, lockerroom tidbits about Rondo, etc.... That all stopped when Doc left town. However, Woj continued to have stories from Doc about the Clippers. Doc leaks EVERYTHING to Woj at Yahoo and Woj is all too happy to return the favor by pumping Doc's tires like he did in the summer of 2012 after the Olympics when he said Doc would be a great choice for future Team USA coach.

Catch up man. I'm not a Woj fan at all...........however, he is the #1 guy to turn to for anything involving a Doc Rivers coached team.

Just curious, but do you expect Woj to report any of this when it's only in the rumors stage? That doesn't seem like that's what he's done in years.

Woj doesn't post rumors any more. He basically let's you know when deals are finished.

Exactly, which is why I don't get the complaint that we aren't hearing it from Woj. If he thinks it's all bull, then fine, but I don't see how no ticking sounds coming from Woj's Twitter account confirms that.

[Asian Celtic]

Honestly **** Banners and everyone else for pushing Smitty away just because you dont understand how **** works. Its stupid and theres no point to this thread now that he isnt reporting anything.

IDK how hard it is to stay away from a thread people don't believe in. Instead they try to impose their POV. Maybe they need some psychotherapy or some sort

[ConstableGeneva]

Just caught up. This thread, man. Amazing. I need a new hobby lol. (I kid. I'm too hooked.)