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Post#441 » by TinmanZBoy » Mon Jul 25, 2016 9:08 pm

spaceballer wrote:Jeremy's interview with JJ Redick on The Vertical.

https://art19.com/shows/vertical-jj-redick/episodes/c9b55afd-af5f-462b-a9b8-bdb68a27e76f

He said if Kenny wasn't here, he wouldn't have even come close to considering Brooklyn.



Lin gave a shout out of coach clifford's hair style... :lol: love it
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Post#442 » by ChokeFasncists » Mon Jul 25, 2016 9:26 pm

spaceballer wrote:Jeremy's interview with JJ Redick on The Vertical.

https://art19.com/shows/vertical-jj-redick/episodes/c9b55afd-af5f-462b-a9b8-bdb68a27e76f

He said if Kenny wasn't here, he wouldn't have even come close to considering Brooklyn.


~lol~ at Cliff talking about JJ!
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Post#443 » by ChokeFasncists » Mon Jul 25, 2016 9:27 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:We don't need Linsanity, we need what I saw from Jeremy in the playoffs: high energy, high effort, and aggressive two way play. That's what will help to lead this team. I was very impressed with how his game has matured.

His evolving hair is also awesome.

Well, it would surely be something good to have tho!
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Post#444 » by Prokorov » Mon Jul 25, 2016 11:02 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:We don't need Linsanity, we need what I saw from Jeremy in the playoffs: high energy, high effort, and aggressive two way play. That's what will help to lead this team. I was very impressed with how his game has matured.

His evolving hair is also awesome.


his playoffs were all that productive. he was solid. he had a solid game 3/4, but had an awful game 6. and overall his 12/2/2 on 54 TS% 14 PER really wanst any more productive then his season with the knicks(better raw stats with NY, even PER36 with basically the same efficiency).

i think Lins game 3/4 outburst kind of overshadowed his less then stellar play the other 5 games of that series

id be thrilled with the knicks version of lin.... 19/8/4 PER36 on 54 TS%. i want him to be super aggressive. we dont have anyone who can create offense off the dribble and really no offense outside brook. id rather a lin who maybe turns it over a bit but creates more offense over an inconsistent lin who is deferring more.
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Post#445 » by reelsgm » Tue Jul 26, 2016 1:21 am

Prokorov wrote:his playoffs were all that productive. he was solid. he had a solid game 3/4, but had an awful game 6...
... i think Lins game 3/4 outburst kind of overshadowed his less then stellar play the other 5 games of that series


Suggest you rewatch games 1,2,7 and even 6. Lin had by-far the best overall performance in the entire SERIES with the exception of Hawes (who played a handful of minutes).

In 1,2 even 6 - Lin was a bench role-player but consistently brought energy & team play but Clifford went with what he knows like an imbecile which was Iso-Kemba and Big "Al"fense down low - repeatedly and predictably got crushed despite Lin's energy.

The only reason Hornets won those 3 games was Batum was injured forcing Clifford to use Lin as a primary playmaker/facilitator in Gm 5, (Batum did not have a major role in Gm 5 back).

Lin didn't shoot well initially in Gm 6 but still provided the toughness & teamplay intangibles, however Clifford already made up his mind to give Kemba every opportunity to win it ISO and Kemba choked like he always does in huge games. Lin had only 5 fouls but sat out most of Q4 despite being clutch all season in Q4. Kemba did not keep the Hornets in gm 6, Kemba LOST gm 6 - while Lin would have WON gm 6 had he been allowed to play.
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Post#446 » by ChokeFasncists » Tue Jul 26, 2016 2:09 am

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MrDollarBills wrote:We don't need Linsanity, we need what I saw from Jeremy in the playoffs: high energy, high effort, and aggressive two way play. That's what will help to lead this team. I was very impressed with how his game has matured.

His evolving hair is also awesome.


his playoffs were all that productive. he was solid. he had a solid game 3/4, but had an awful game 6. and overall his 12/2/2 on 54 TS% 14 PER really wanst any more productive then his season with the knicks(better raw stats with NY, even PER36 with basically the same efficiency).

i think Lins game 3/4 outburst kind of overshadowed his less then stellar play the other 5 games of that series

I think he was mainly talking about Lin's hustle and D, which was pretty impressive.

Offensively, Lin didn't get much opportunity to play PG. Batum was the point forward of the team; Al Jefferson was the focal point of the offensive with the bench.

Game 3 and 4, Nic didn't play. Lin played great scoring wise and they won. Game 5 the Heat schemed to stop his scoring; his passing was the most important reason for the win. Game 6 they were pretty exhausted with multiple injuries, the Heat played all out. Batum was back, Lin was in foul trouble and he didn't play very well before that, who knows what would happen if he was on the court late? Game 7 he played pretty well, but unfortunately didn't get to do much, probably cuz Cliff wanted to placate Nic so he would resign with the Hornets in free agency. Then it was trash time.

So, he played pretty well and won when he had the chance.

id be thrilled with the knicks version of lin.... 19/8/4 PER36 on 54 TS%. i want him to be super aggressive. we dont have anyone who can create offense off the dribble and really no offense outside brook. id rather a lin who maybe turns it over a bit but creates more offense over an inconsistent lin who is deferring more.

Agreed. I'd say fork it, go for it!

That's the way to win games!
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Post#447 » by m40 » Tue Jul 26, 2016 4:50 am

reelsgm wrote:
Prokorov wrote:his playoffs were all that productive. he was solid. he had a solid game 3/4, but had an awful game 6...
... i think Lins game 3/4 outburst kind of overshadowed his less then stellar play the other 5 games of that series


Suggest you rewatch games 1,2,7 and even 6. Lin had by-far the best overall performance in the entire SERIES with the exception of Hawes (who played a handful of minutes).

In 1,2 even 6 - Lin was a bench role-player but consistently brought energy & team play but Clifford went with what he knows like an imbecile which was Iso-Kemba and Big "Al"fense down low - repeatedly and predictably got crushed despite Lin's energy.

The only reason Hornets won those 3 games was Batum was injured forcing Clifford to use Lin as a primary playmaker/facilitator in Gm 5, (Batum did not have a major role in Gm 5 back).

Lin didn't shoot well initially in Gm 6 but still provided the toughness & teamplay intangibles, however Clifford already made up his mind to give Kemba every opportunity to win it ISO and Kemba choked like he always does in huge games. Lin had only 5 fouls but sat out most of Q4 despite being clutch all season in Q4. Kemba did not keep the Hornets in gm 6, Kemba LOST gm 6 - while Lin would have WON gm 6 had he been allowed to play.


Cody Zeller's injury really downgraded Hornet's offensive PnR. Not much players in Hornets were able to do PnR well with Lin (and Lin was merely injured too. Not sure why Clifford use Batum for Gm7 despite his weak condition and it almost decided the final result in Gm7. Batum was good in the season but not in PO. Likely due to injury. Lin feels it is enough to be benched for no reason and BKL could be a good team for him to keep the ball and shooting.
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Post#448 » by gafun » Tue Jul 26, 2016 12:39 pm

Linsenity was born with a group of very talent two way players and it only last for a few weeks for many reasons. Atkinson has brought in multiple combo guards and I hope we would see some insenity in each position and make the games fun to watch.
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Re: The Official Lin Net Thread 

Post#449 » by MrDollarBills » Tue Jul 26, 2016 3:18 pm

Prokorov wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:We don't need Linsanity, we need what I saw from Jeremy in the playoffs: high energy, high effort, and aggressive two way play. That's what will help to lead this team. I was very impressed with how his game has matured.

His evolving hair is also awesome.


his playoffs were all that productive. he was solid. he had a solid game 3/4, but had an awful game 6. and overall his 12/2/2 on 54 TS% 14 PER really wanst any more productive then his season with the knicks(better raw stats with NY, even PER36 with basically the same efficiency).

i think Lins game 3/4 outburst kind of overshadowed his less then stellar play the other 5 games of that series

id be thrilled with the knicks version of lin.... 19/8/4 PER36 on 54 TS%. i want him to be super aggressive. we dont have anyone who can create offense off the dribble and really no offense outside brook. id rather a lin who maybe turns it over a bit but creates more offense over an inconsistent lin who is deferring more.


I was talking about his effort, which was max on both ends in that series. His stats on this team will be grossly different since he'll be the focal point.
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Post#450 » by CalamityX12 » Tue Jul 26, 2016 3:22 pm

23 pages since he was announced he'll sign with BKN...

can't wait til the actual season starts! LOL cheers all
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Post#451 » by NyCeEvO » Tue Jul 26, 2016 6:02 pm

CalamityX12 wrote:23 pages since he was announced he'll sign with BKN...

can't wait til the actual season starts! LOL cheers all

No, the other Lin thread was longer before it was locked.

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Post#452 » by CalamityX12 » Tue Jul 26, 2016 6:16 pm

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CalamityX12 wrote:23 pages since he was announced he'll sign with BKN...

can't wait til the actual season starts! LOL cheers all

No, the other Lin thread was longer before it was locked.

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This is Lin deus?

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Post#453 » by NyCeEvO » Tue Jul 26, 2016 6:19 pm

CalamityX12 wrote:
NyCeEvO wrote:
CalamityX12 wrote:23 pages since he was announced he'll sign with BKN...

can't wait til the actual season starts! LOL cheers all

No, the other Lin thread was longer before it was locked.

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This is Lin deus?

lol

Yup. Well, Lin deuce.

Deus means "god" in Latin...so maybe that should be the appropriate title lol.

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Post#454 » by steady » Tue Jul 26, 2016 7:32 pm

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Post#455 » by steady » Tue Jul 26, 2016 7:35 pm

What I am very curious to see is what schemes Atkinson implements to get Lin going when he starts off slow.

With Lin, I feel like if he gets in a groove early in terms of his jump shot, there is sort of no stopping his momentum. He can take over a game, and elevate the team.

but when his shot is off at the start, he has a hard time getting himself going. In part because he just is not a player who is going to shoot himself out of a shooting funk, he just stops taking shots or takes very few shots. Which obviously will not be good this year.
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Post#456 » by ChokeFasncists » Tue Jul 26, 2016 7:45 pm

steady wrote:What I am very curious to see is what schemes Atkinson implements to get Lin going when he starts off slow.

With Lin, I feel like if he gets in a groove early in terms of his jump shot, there is sort of no stopping his momentum. He can take over a game, and elevate the team.

but when his shot is off at the start, he has a hard time getting himself going. In part because he just is not a player who is going to shoot himself out of a shooting funk, he just stops taking shots or takes very few shots. Which obviously will not be good this year.

Well, last year Cliff forced every capable shooter to keep shooting even if they are in a funk. That was nice. Hope it carries over and Atkinson is the same.

Agreed. Without his pull-up midrange, which was very effective during Linsanity and not bad with the Lakers, which wasn't used well with Moreyball and last year with the form change, his PnR is much less deadly. We did see glimpse of it last season when his shot was there. This would be quite important for the team.
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Post#457 » by reelsgm » Tue Jul 26, 2016 9:21 pm

steady wrote:What I am very curious to see is what schemes Atkinson implements to get Lin going when he starts off slow.

With Lin, I feel like if he gets in a groove early in terms of his jump shot, there is sort of no stopping his momentum. He can take over a game, and elevate the team.

but when his shot is off at the start, he has a hard time getting himself going. In part because he just is not a player who is going to shoot himself out of a shooting funk, he just stops taking shots or takes very few shots. Which obviously will not be good this year.

This Lin starts slow meme, as if it's some major affliction that Lin is especially prone to - is tiresome

Believe it or not, there is a difference between STARTING and coming off the BENCH as an all-purpose defender combo guard and Lin himself has alluded to the differences.

Starters have advantages that help starters get into rhythm, such as : well-defined roles, continuity of play & rest times, assurance that minor mistakes don't translate into getting yanked, predictable plays run-for-you. None of that was available to Lin coming off the bench as a jack-of-all trades.

But ultimately Lin is a basketball player, all players have occasional off nights and Lin will have a few - but Lin has shown as a STARTER in charge of primary playmaking he RARELY if ever has an off night.
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Post#458 » by Kswiss » Tue Jul 26, 2016 11:31 pm

ChokeFasncists wrote:
steady wrote:What I am very curious to see is what schemes Atkinson implements to get Lin going when he starts off slow.

With Lin, I feel like if he gets in a groove early in terms of his jump shot, there is sort of no stopping his momentum. He can take over a game, and elevate the team.

but when his shot is off at the start, he has a hard time getting himself going. In part because he just is not a player who is going to shoot himself out of a shooting funk, he just stops taking shots or takes very few shots. Which obviously will not be good this year.

Well, last year Cliff forced every capable shooter to keep shooting even if they are in a funk. That was nice. Hope it carries over and Atkinson is the same.

Agreed. Without his pull-up midrange, which was very effective during Linsanity and not bad with the Lakers, which wasn't used well with Moreyball and last year with the form change, his PnR is much less deadly. We did see glimpse of it last season when his shot was there. This would be quite important for the team.

This is definitely an old basketball myth that percolates throughout the basketball community. I'm pretty sure it was Kobe Bryant that started it. When you have an off night shooting, the solution is not to keep jacking up shots, it is to contribute in other areas of the game. There are four other capable players on an NBA team and sometimes you have to swallow your pride and say "my shot is off tonight, maybe I'll attack the basket or drive and dish." Throughout Kobe's career I always wished he had the basketball acumen to be aware of this. I feel like he could have won championships without superlative surrounding talent. Many years he would bury shots at games with his bricking and with no Shaq or Pau/Bynum to clean up, he would kill the Lakers. Still while Kobe was a major advocate of shooting yourself out of slump, he's not the only culprit. But I frown upon people suggesting Lin should do that
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Post#459 » by steady » Wed Jul 27, 2016 1:09 am

reelsgm wrote:
steady wrote:What I am very curious to see is what schemes Atkinson implements to get Lin going when he starts off slow.

With Lin, I feel like if he gets in a groove early in terms of his jump shot, there is sort of no stopping his momentum. He can take over a game, and elevate the team.

but when his shot is off at the start, he has a hard time getting himself going. In part because he just is not a player who is going to shoot himself out of a shooting funk, he just stops taking shots or takes very few shots. Which obviously will not be good this year.

This Lin starts slow meme, as if it's some major affliction that Lin is especially prone to - is tiresome

Believe it or not, there is a difference between STARTING and coming off the BENCH as an all-purpose defender combo guard and Lin himself has alluded to the differences.

Starters have advantages that help starters get into rhythm, such as : well-defined roles, continuity of play & rest times, assurance that minor mistakes don't translate into getting yanked, predictable plays run-for-you. None of that was available to Lin coming off the bench as a jack-of-all trades.

But ultimately Lin is a basketball player, all players have occasional off nights and Lin will have a few - but Lin has shown as a STARTER in charge of primary playmaking he RARELY if ever has an off night.


Lin is always going to contribute and is good at getting his teammates going and scoring in paint and drawing fouls when his jumpshot is off

But when he takes an early 3 for example and it goes inhe usually has a much better game, he's talked about this...
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Post#460 » by ChokeFasncists » Wed Jul 27, 2016 2:13 am

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ChokeFasncists wrote:
steady wrote:What I am very curious to see is what schemes Atkinson implements to get Lin going when he starts off slow.

With Lin, I feel like if he gets in a groove early in terms of his jump shot, there is sort of no stopping his momentum. He can take over a game, and elevate the team.

but when his shot is off at the start, he has a hard time getting himself going. In part because he just is not a player who is going to shoot himself out of a shooting funk, he just stops taking shots or takes very few shots. Which obviously will not be good this year.

Well, last year Cliff forced every capable shooter to keep shooting even if they are in a funk. That was nice. Hope it carries over and Atkinson is the same.

Agreed. Without his pull-up midrange, which was very effective during Linsanity and not bad with the Lakers, which wasn't used well with Moreyball and last year with the form change, his PnR is much less deadly. We did see glimpse of it last season when his shot was there. This would be quite important for the team.

This is definitely an old basketball myth that percolates throughout the basketball community. I'm pretty sure it was Kobe Bryant that started it. When you have an off night shooting, the solution is not to keep jacking up shots, it is to contribute in other areas of the game. There are four other capable players on an NBA team and sometimes you have to swallow your pride and say "my shot is off tonight, maybe I'll attack the basket or drive and dish." Throughout Kobe's career I always wished he had the basketball acumen to be aware of this. I feel like he could have won championships without superlative surrounding talent. Many years he would bury shots at games with his bricking and with no Shaq or Pau/Bynum to clean up, he would kill the Lakers. Still while Kobe was a major advocate of shooting yourself out of slump, he's not the only culprit. But I frown upon people suggesting Lin should do that

Nana, chucking Kobe style is never good, especially for a passing PG like Lin. I'm only talking about when the shots are there; like when he's open, or when the defenders double team the roller, or when they go under the screen. Cliff definitely doesn't want people to jack up bad shots, like Lamb. It's like when Marvin was in a funk, he had to put it up if he's open.
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