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TinmanZBoy wrote:although Jack has never been a star player in this league, he is always well respected by other players, a classy guy...
reelsgm wrote:TinmanZBoy wrote:although Jack has never been a star player in this league, he is always well respected by other players, a classy guy...
Jarrett Jack was butt-hurt, lost his job, lost a ton of money... made fun of the guy who took his job, took heat for lack-of-class, End-of-Story.
How hard is that to understand?
Claud wrote:Overnight Lin became the face of the franchise...some people might not like it but I think it's a good thing.
We all know Lopez is a better basketball player than Lin but Lopez doesn't really have star power. Getting Lin was very smart not just because of what we need on the court(Desperately needed a good PG) but also off the court this could be a huge gain for us. Plus I really like where Lin's head is at... he seems like a very good human being.
As a Nets fan I hope Lin succeeds here in BKN and hopefully it will revitalize the franchise and the city!
MrDollarBills wrote:reelsgm wrote:TinmanZBoy wrote:although Jack has never been a star player in this league, he is always well respected by other players, a classy guy...
Jarrett Jack was butt-hurt, lost his job, lost a ton of money... made fun of the guy who took his job, took heat for lack-of-class, End-of-Story.
How hard is that to understand?
Reported to the mods. Hell no.
Anyone who calls Jack a racist or goes down this route this guy just just went down is getting reported, **** that. You're not going to come on here and trash a guy who was a class act during his time with us. He didn't attack Lin then and obviously by his comments he respects him.
And Lin didn't take Jack's job. Jack was not coming back or being paid that money regardless. EVERYONE knew that including Jack...except his half wit detractors have zero understanding of what was going in with this team prior to Lin signing here. If you're going to talk out of your ass don't even bother posting on here
reelsgm wrote:MrDollarBills wrote:reelsgm wrote:
Jarrett Jack was butt-hurt, lost his job, lost a ton of money... made fun of the guy who took his job, took heat for lack-of-class, End-of-Story.
How hard is that to understand?
Reported to the mods. Hell no.
Anyone who calls Jack a racist or goes down this route this guy just just went down is getting reported, **** that. You're not going to come on here and trash a guy who was a class act during his time with us. He didn't attack Lin then and obviously by his comments he respects him.
And Lin didn't take Jack's job. Jack was not coming back or being paid that money regardless. EVERYONE knew that including Jack...except his half wit detractors have zero understanding of what was going in with this team prior to Lin signing here. If you're going to talk out of your ass don't even bother posting on here
Butt hurt seems to be contagious lol.
Where in what I posted do I call Jack a racist or even imply anything about racism?
Take a chill pill.
bws94 wrote:reelsgm wrote:MrDollarBills wrote:
Reported to the mods. Hell no.
Anyone who calls Jack a racist or goes down this route this guy just just went down is getting reported, **** that. You're not going to come on here and trash a guy who was a class act during his time with us. He didn't attack Lin then and obviously by his comments he respects him.
And Lin didn't take Jack's job. Jack was not coming back or being paid that money regardless. EVERYONE knew that including Jack...except his half wit detractors have zero understanding of what was going in with this team prior to Lin signing here. If you're going to talk out of your ass don't even bother posting on here
Butt hurt seems to be contagious lol.
Where in what I posted do I call Jack a racist or even imply anything about racism?
Take a chill pill.
Problem is, and you know I know who you are, you don't understand how offensive you are. I hope you are booted off of here, you are disgrace to any type of fandom, including Lin fandom. I think Net's fans know Jack's character better than you do. I'll take Jack at his word.
reelsgm wrote:TinmanZBoy wrote:although Jack has never been a star player in this league, he is always well respected by other players, a classy guy...
Jarrett Jack was butt-hurt, lost his job, lost a ton of money... made fun of the guy who took his job, took heat for lack-of-class, End-of-Story.
How hard is that to understand?
antique0o0 wrote:Was Jack's tweet about Lin? I don't know and I don't care. Nets and Lin are moving on, so am I.
MrDollarBills wrote:antique0o0 wrote:Was Jack's tweet about Lin? I don't know and I don't care. Nets and Lin are moving on, so am I.
It wasn't about Jeremy, Jack even went out of his way to clarify. You just have some really pathetic, childish and insecure Lin fans apparently who think that Jarett has it out for the guy when he doesn't. Jack is like Lin, a class act.
TTNN wrote:Prokorov wrote:MrDollarBills wrote:We don't need Linsanity, we need what I saw from Jeremy in the playoffs: high energy, high effort, and aggressive two way play. That's what will help to lead this team. I was very impressed with how his game has matured.
His evolving hair is also awesome.
his playoffs were all that productive. he was solid. he had a solid game 3/4, but had an awful game 6. and overall his 12/2/2 on 54 TS% 14 PER really wanst any more productive then his season with the knicks(better raw stats with NY, even PER36 with basically the same efficiency).
i think Lins game 3/4 outburst kind of overshadowed his less then stellar play the other 5 games of that series
id be thrilled with the knicks version of lin.... 19/8/4 PER36 on 54 TS%. i want him to be super aggressive. we dont have anyone who can create offense off the dribble and really no offense outside brook. id rather a lin who maybe turns it over a bit but creates more offense over an inconsistent lin who is deferring more.
Lin did appears performed better in game 3,4 since he scored a lot, and feels he is dominating. That has a lot to do with how Heat was playing Hornets.
In the first two games, Heats focus to eliminate Hornets' 3pt game, Hornets was not dealing it well, even though Lin was okay, he scored pretty easily but he don't have much ball touches. Then Batum was hurt, thus Lin got a lot more touches in game 3 and 4, and his penetration game really was what Heat give them, thus Lin looked really great in those two games.
In game 5, Heat adjusted, and they spend effort to stop Lin and Kemba's driving, they would double team them, thus Lin got less scoring, but he was still very effective by passing, and get assists. On the other hand, his touches dropped also due to Batum came back.
I should also emphasis on Lin rolled his ankle in game 5, he finished that game, but sure would impact his game 6.
In game 6, Batum is back to start, play longer time, and Hornets goes away from their penetration game, and went back to their old style try to take more 3s. On the other hand, Lin's rolled ankle did not help, and he get into foul trouble that he got 5 fouls, so his play time also got limited. Though we could argue that Lin could still be back to play with 5 fouls, but apparently Clifford don't think that way.
If you look at the stat sheet, yeah, in a vacuum, it looks like Lin didn't play as well in game 5 and 6, but I think you could not disregards other conditions. On the other hand, one could also say Lin benefited in game 3 and 4 from Heat's strategy.
Aussiemongoose wrote:"I actually think some of them might not even be Lin fans. We had that problem on every board of Lin-hating trolls pretending to be extreme Lin fans to stir the pot."
I agree. I've been reading the boards since Houston and until now the hornets mods have done the best job dealing with the "fanatics". those that just trolled got banned, which made the discussions a lot more interesting and was benevolant for all involved. I think the nets mods will follow that pattern if they want civilized conversations
spaceballer wrote:TTNN wrote:Prokorov wrote:
his playoffs were all that productive. he was solid. he had a solid game 3/4, but had an awful game 6. and overall his 12/2/2 on 54 TS% 14 PER really wanst any more productive then his season with the knicks(better raw stats with NY, even PER36 with basically the same efficiency).
i think Lins game 3/4 outburst kind of overshadowed his less then stellar play the other 5 games of that series
id be thrilled with the knicks version of lin.... 19/8/4 PER36 on 54 TS%. i want him to be super aggressive. we dont have anyone who can create offense off the dribble and really no offense outside brook. id rather a lin who maybe turns it over a bit but creates more offense over an inconsistent lin who is deferring more.
Lin did appears performed better in game 3,4 since he scored a lot, and feels he is dominating. That has a lot to do with how Heat was playing Hornets.
In the first two games, Heats focus to eliminate Hornets' 3pt game, Hornets was not dealing it well, even though Lin was okay, he scored pretty easily but he don't have much ball touches. Then Batum was hurt, thus Lin got a lot more touches in game 3 and 4, and his penetration game really was what Heat give them, thus Lin looked really great in those two games.
In game 5, Heat adjusted, and they spend effort to stop Lin and Kemba's driving, they would double team them, thus Lin got less scoring, but he was still very effective by passing, and get assists. On the other hand, his touches dropped also due to Batum came back.
I should also emphasis on Lin rolled his ankle in game 5, he finished that game, but sure would impact his game 6.
In game 6, Batum is back to start, play longer time, and Hornets goes away from their penetration game, and went back to their old style try to take more 3s. On the other hand, Lin's rolled ankle did not help, and he get into foul trouble that he got 5 fouls, so his play time also got limited. Though we could argue that Lin could still be back to play with 5 fouls, but apparently Clifford don't think that way.
If you look at the stat sheet, yeah, in a vacuum, it looks like Lin didn't play as well in game 5 and 6, but I think you could not disregards other conditions. On the other hand, one could also say Lin benefited in game 3 and 4 from Heat's strategy.
Glad to see you here and hope you stick around. I've been impressed with the data analysis work you've done before.
Lin's fan base is so huge that, like any sufficiently large population, the sheer size means you're bound to have some talented people in all sorts of diverse areas. You've got the guys who put together clips and highlights packages and things like the viral flagrant foul video. You've got the artists who make sculptures and paintings like that JLin art expo they had in Taiwan a few years back, or the giant abstract art sculpture in that park in Taiwan, or that special JLin portrait exhibition they had in the Charlotte Museum of History last season, or all the artwork you see on twitter. You've got the writers putting together articles and essays on the various sites and blogs and publications. You've even got a guy putting out a podcast after every game analyzing everything. And you've got the people collecting and translating news items from different languages and whatnot. And then you've got the number crunchers delving deep into the statistical data and advanced stats to find patterns.
For those who don't know, TTNN is a Lin fan who did some amazing data analysis work last summer.
http://www.atthehive.com/2015/7/30/9072079/hornets-guards-passing
http://www.atthehive.com/2015/8/29/9225837/hornets-guards-assist
http://www.atthehive.com/2015/9/19/9355881/hornets-players-shooting-play-making
spaceballer wrote:Aussiemongoose wrote:"I actually think some of them might not even be Lin fans. We had that problem on every board of Lin-hating trolls pretending to be extreme Lin fans to stir the pot."
I agree. I've been reading the boards since Houston and until now the hornets mods have done the best job dealing with the "fanatics". those that just trolled got banned, which made the discussions a lot more interesting and was benevolant for all involved. I think the nets mods will follow that pattern if they want civilized conversations
And then you have the other half of the trolls. The Lin-hating trolls who pretend to be the voice of reason coming in to condemn the extreme Lin fans.
On LakersGround, the mods even found that they were one and the same person. A single IP address with both the account pretending to be an extreme crazy Lin fan to stir the pot, and the same IP address with the account of the guy condemning extreme Lin fans and acting as the voice of reason telling them to ban Lin fans.
That tactic seemed to work for the Lin-hating trolls on Clutchfans, making that board unreadable.
Sometimes they can't even get their two personas right, as in the case of BigBob on the Hornets board who fluctuated between acting like an extreme Lin fan one minute and then like an extreme Lin hater the next.
It takes a special trolling dedication to follow Lin and his fans from board to board and create accounts pretending to be extreme Lin fans, and then create accounts to condemn Lin fans and tell people to ban them.
I'll just leave it up to the mods. If you see someone pretending to be an extreme Lin fan to troll, or going around condemning Lin fans and lumping them together hoping to get them all banned, I'd be wary of either extreme.
Thanks for the honesty.MorbidHEAT wrote:My dislike for Lin started during Linsanity. It was absurd. It's probably irrational dislike at this point, but man he gets on my nerves. He's been tearing us up though.
